Wanderlei Silva vs Chuck Liddell

[DayV]

Very different styles. Chuck was loose and long with punches and Wandy loved to swing. Rampage preferred a tight guard and short punches, mostly hooks, which didn't take advantage of Wandy's openings. Chuck would have knocked his fucking head off with shots straight down the pipe. Wandy almost got KO'd by Shungo Oyama that way ffs, lmao.

Wanderlei could have not fight in the octagon nowhere near as effective as in the ring. He could have not pressure opponets in such open and big space where opponents could easilly eavde his strikes and counter him when he misses. Key for Wanderlei's game was the pressure, aggression, speed he threw 2 stikes for each 1 of his opponent, and would simply overwhelm them when they had nowhere to escape in the corner or on the ropes. Simillar to Cro Cop, Wanderlei is a ring fighter, who is handicapped in the cage. In Pride i belive W. Silva would have overwhelmed Liddel and KOd him.

 

[Lord Grey]

Not a bad fight for what it was . . . But should've happened 5 years earlier.

The only fight I ever bet on, and I bet Wanderlei. In my defense, the bet had been made (with a friend) years before it actually happened.

 

[shinobimusashi]

I remember driving around for hours looking for a place to watch it but EVERY single bar or restaurant was playing the Giants vs Patriots game that night the Patriots were 15-0 going for the perfect 16-0 season that game overshadowed this fight big time that night. Also MMA was still underground and most people around here still had no clue what it was back then yet(compared to now where its like every random dude I bring it up with knows everything about where the sport is at today, even more than I do as a lapsed old school fan). So for me being a huge Pride fan and this fight being the biggest deal to me it was odd at the time that it seemed like the general public didn't really care or know about it.

 

[linvillegorge]

Yeah, wish we would've seen it earlier in their careers but it was a great fight and fairly matched as they were both in a similar state of decline. I would've rather gotten that fight when we did than to have never seen the matchup at all.

 

[Bend NvR Break]

I want to vote for both options.
For what it was it was a good fight but it still should've happened a few years earlier.

 

[Lee Danger]

idk, Wand's always had an awful boxing game... i was a fan but his flaws were there since day one and he never corrected them.
imho Chuck'd have won 10/10 even at their peak... 9/10 if we count some weird circumstances

 

[HHJ]

Wanderlei could have not fight in the octagon nowhere near as effective as in the ring. He could have not pressure opponets in such open and big space where opponents could easilly eavde his strikes and counter him when he misses. Key for Wanderlei's game was the pressure, aggression, speed he threw 2 stikes for each 1 of his opponent, and would simply overwhelm them when they had nowhere to escape in the corner or on the ropes

Yes. Remember when in the second fight w Rampage he launched himself at him with a 6 strike combination and Rampage had to take him down or DIE.

 

[Ibm]

This was a forgotten gem fight that is astonishing no one ever talks about.

 

[Local Plata]

Right, but again, Wandy twice KOd the guy that KOd Chuck twice FFS. That seems much more relevant than someone that "almost" beat somebody.

Lmao, yeah, I give you a reasoned response based on their styles and attributes, and you look at wikipedia and do MMA Math. I bet you didn't even watch them fight in their primes lmao.

 

[Local Plata]

Wanderlei could have not fight in the octagon nowhere near as effective as in the ring. He could have not pressure opponets in such open and big space where opponents could easilly eavde his strikes and counter him when he misses. Key for Wanderlei's game was the pressure, aggression, speed he threw 2 stikes for each 1 of his opponent, and would simply overwhelm them when they had nowhere to escape in the corner or on the ropes. Simillar to Cro Cop, Wanderlei is a ring fighter, who is handicapped in the cage. In Pride i belive W. Silva would have overwhelmed Liddel and KOd him.

He would have gotten his head knocked the fuck off in a ring too. You act like nobody knows how to deal with someone running at them and throwing punches from their hips. Chuck's reach and punching style would play a big factor, add to that Wandy never had a great chin, and Chuck's was legendary.

This 'ring fighter' myth is cute as fuck. A salty cro cop makes excuses for his losses and pride fangirls pretend its just a fact of life.

 

[joy2day]

Lmao, yeah, I give you a reasoned response based on their styles and attributes, and you look at wikipedia and do MMA Math. I bet you didn't even watch them fight in their primes lmao.

The sad thing is all someone would need is wikipedia to debunk you. I hate to break it to you, but some little half-baked fan pseudo-analysis doesn't change jack. If it makes you feel better, then by all means. That's pretty brilliant to base it on a fight where someone was "almost getting knocked out." Boy that's some genius reasoning. He was losing until he was winning. Wow.

"I bet you didn't even watch in their prime" ROFL Really trying hard to make yourself feel important, huh? By all means.

 

[tasticles]

You said it. Unfortunately didn't come to fruition when they were still on the climb or at the top.

Still a great scrap for what it was, two absolute legends. I think Chuck would have had his number at any point myself, but who knows?

It was pretty good for how far past it both were. I always believed wand would fuck chuck in pride because of the stomps and soccer kicks. In the UFC no

 

[Local Plata]

The sad thing is all someone would need is wikipedia to debunk you. I hate to break it to you, but some little half-baked fan pseudo-analysis doesn't change jack. If it makes you feel better, then by all means. That's pretty brilliant to base it on a fight where someone was "almost getting knocked out." Boy that's some genius reasoning. He was losing until he was winning. Wow.

"I bet you didn't even watch in their prime" ROFL Really trying hard to make yourself feel important, huh? By all means.

Annnnnnndd you clearly never even saw the Shungo Oyama fight. Lmaooo, fucking dying over here. Enjoy your pro wrestling, dork.

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

Chuck had to shoot to defend a legacy his chin would entirely let down!

 

[Chama]

Anyways, reason for posting it was when it looked like a brawl might start (35 second in) Hackleman steps in front ready to go. And you know he was serious because he kicked his flip-flops off lol. I always like that, liked Hackleman.

Lol. 4 eyes fat fuk Hackleman wouldn't be clowning around if ANY of the old ChuteBoxe members were around.

Walter White knew better.. he didn't want Mestre Cordeiro smoke, so he took the chance to show off.

He should had taken more care of Chuck later in his carrer tbh.

 

[Thepaintbucket]

At the time I did not like this match up at all. Both guys were coming off double losses and no doubt Wandy had the worse end between the two. Getting Crocop head kicked and Hendo bombed isnt good for you man. Silva wanted to take the year off but Dana White had other plans. Dana being the promoter he is, wasted no time in bullying Wandy into signing sooner which was a mistake.

As far as the fight goes it's safe to say it isn't one of my favorites. I wish they both fought in their prime

 

[moreorless87]

idk, Wand's always had an awful boxing game... i was a fan but his flaws were there since day one and he never corrected them.
imho Chuck'd have won 10/10 even at their peak... 9/10 if we count some weird circumstances

Honestly I think people have always overstated this, they look at the clips of Wand windmilling and put that down as his typical style when really it was more something he did against either overmatched opponents or when he was in trouble himself.

Back in his prime I would argue he was actually quite a lot more technical when he needed to be, willing to fight more slowly and able to land quite accurate strikes, look at say the KOs or Saku 3 or Tamura.

Prime vs Prime I actually think Chuck depended on his chin more than Wand but he wasnt fighting people like Mark Hunt and Crocop.