Wanderlei Silva vs Chuck Liddell

[chinarice]

I wonder if PRIDE would have eventually matched up Wand and Fedor if they had kept winning.

There was always rumors about making that fight

Wand would have KO'ed Fedor! Boooom!

 

[IIIIIIII]

the fight was such a disappointment lol. i remember most people being giddy about it, but i knew it wouldn't be so great. it was okay, but not great.

 

[joy2day]

I would say both of the options in the poll are true.

It was entertaining enough, but did not have much anticipation to it or real contextual meaning by the time it happened.

Wandy should have gotten to fuck Chuck much earlier, and it would have been meaningful.

 

[Pitier of Fools]

Unfortunatey, we got this highly anticipated fight 5 years too late. Both men knocked from their lofty pedestals and not in their primes anymore. Wanderlei has basically been Knocked out cold badly twice in the year of this fight, and Chuck was coming off two losses. Wand comin from PRIDE and makin his UFC DEBUT.

Notably Wanderlei only boxed with Chuck, and in that area Chuck's superior range and Wandy kind of playing into his style anyway, busted Wanderlei up....but both men showed alot of heart and grit.

How did you feel about this fight at the time?

Very underrated fight. If it had been a couple years earlier, or if it had been for a belt, it would probably be considered one of the best fights of all time. Great brawl.

 

[Frode Falch]

He just boxed with Chuck

No kicks. No knees. No clinch takedowns

It wasnt Wand's usual self

Wand was never a good kicker. He would win by wild aggression, wild roid rage windmill punches, and GTA style thug stomps.

He had some good, but very basic knees from a simple version of the thai clinch. But nothing like Anderson Silva had.

He would not have done well in the clinch against Chuck.

 

[Local Plata]

Prime Chuck is a nightmare matchup for Wanderlei.

 

[HHJ]

Wand was never a good kicker. He would win by wild aggression, wild roid rage windmill punches, and GTA style thug stomps.

He had some good, but very basic knees from a simple version of the thai clinch. But nothing like Anderson Silva had.

He would not have done well in the clinch against Chuck.

Now you listen here, Frode Falch!

He don't have to be a good kicker. He still used them. If you not gonna check em, he's gonna land them on you. He used them to good effect against Rampage in more than one of their fights

Knees aren't complicated. They don't need to be fancy. He also coulda tripped him down like he did Hunt. He could have tried.

 

[Frode Falch]

Now you listen here, Frode Falch!

He don't have to be a good kicker. He still used them. If you not gonna check em, he's gonna land them on you. He used them to good effect against Rampage in more than one of their fights

Knees aren't complicated. They don't need to be fancy. He also coulda tripped him down like he did Hunt. He could have tried.

Thats a lot of could have should have

 

[joy2day]

Prime Chuck is a nightmare matchup for Wanderlei.

Yeah, not so sure it isn't the other way around. Prime Wandy smashed the guy twice that smashed Chuck twice.

 

[deviake]

Now you listen here, Frode Falch!

He don't have to be a good kicker. He still used them. If you not gonna check em, he's gonna land them on you. He used them to good effect against Rampage in more than one of their fights

Knees aren't complicated. They don't need to be fancy. He also coulda tripped him down like he did Hunt. He could have tried.

I don't remember someone ever effectively clinching Chuck outside of Randy in their first fight and Chuck is a wrestler with hard elbows so clinching him is generally a bad idea. I've also never seen someone hurt Chuck with low kicks except Shogun.

I actually think there was a better chance of Chuck KO'ing Wand if they fought in their primes. He was already in his upper 30s when they fought. Bad matchup for Wand IMO. Longer reach, hits as hard or harder and knocks people out going forward or backward, hard to clinch, good kicker, wrestler, insane chin and recovery... bad news bears.

 

[Clark Rogers]

Was all false advertisement imo.

Wanderlei said right in the cage "i want to f@*k Chuck" and we never got to see that.



















No homo















OK maybe a little.

 

[Throwin Bombs]

Maybe that was Wanderlei’s gamelan? Who knows, but his striking hands wise has always always been sloppy wide hooks. He never ever established a jab or thrown a cross to save his life. I stick with what I said, Chuck Liddell beats him the Octagon, in the Ring he would have more of a difficult time but eventually win.

There was a time he was far more technical, watch the first Cro Cop fight for reference. His striking started to devolve in 2005.

 

[nonoob]

He would win by wild aggression, wild roid rage windmill punches, and GTA style thug stomps.

SO True, and when he nailed those, most people would just crumble.

Awesome competition during that period, great times for us MMA fans.

 

[Local Plata]

Yeah, not so sure it isn't the other way around. Prime Wandy smashed the guy twice that smashed Chuck twice.

Very different styles. Chuck was loose and long with punches and Wandy loved to swing. Rampage preferred a tight guard and short punches, mostly hooks, which didn't take advantage of Wandy's openings. Chuck would have knocked his fucking head off with shots straight down the pipe. Wandy almost got KO'd by Shungo Oyama that way ffs, lmao.

 

[Blanqa Blanqua]

crazy how the poll was a clear 2/1 but with time is getting closer to 1/1

 

[joy2day]

Wandy almost got KO'd by Shungo Oyama that way ffs, lmao.

Right, but again, Wandy twice KOd the guy that KOd Chuck twice FFS. That seems much more relevant than someone that "almost" beat somebody.

 

[HHJ]

Thats a lot of could have should have

Thats what I'm saying!

He could done that.

I don't know why he didn't!

He shoulda had me in his corner!!!!

 

[HHJ]

Was all false advertisement imo.

Wanderlei said right in the cage "i want to f@*k Chuck" and we never got to see that.



















No homo















OK maybe a little.

It's not false advertising. He DID want to fuck chuck, he just wasnt able to achieve penetration on this night.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

Watching this fight live i was so pumped and glad that Chuck got the W, but in hindsight it was definitely too late in the game for both fighters as both were on a rapid decline, and i think Chuck would have finished Wand in round 1 or 2 if this fight happened sooner. Still enjoyed this fight for what it was.

 

[wildchild88]

It was a fun scrap but both were dog meat by then, that version of them would get counter KO’d by a good young LHW striker.

Both looked slow and sloppy.