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[MMA IAN]

Clearly, someone had to take the fall. It was never going to be the people at fault for discussing the info on signal in the first place, obviously.

People absolutely use apps like that to talk about shit they shouldn't all the time, the trick is just not to invite a fucking journalist into the group lmao. It goes on in every admin. Who cares. Just make sure you don't invite people grom outside rofl

 

[AWilder]

Then your issue is with the Biden Administration that made the Signal Groups the standard.

You don't know much about Signal do you?

lol, man, you're cooked

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Apparently more than you. It is default installed on most CIA machines.

Apparently not lol.

Its downloaded on CIA machines for general discussion and meeting coordination but explicitly prohibited for discussion of classified information.

And for military operations the use of a SIPRNet, NIPRNet, or JWICS is REQUIRED for virtual discussions of classified information

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

People absolutely use apps like that to talk about shit they shouldn't all the time, the trick is just not to invite a fucking journalist into the group lmao. It goes on in every admin. Who cares. Just make sure you don't invite people grom outside rofl

The trick is to not talk about classified information on unsecured platforms. It's not that hard. 18 year old privates manage it.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

@Whippy McGee using the same reasoning he does about signal chat.

"dad you left keys so I could drive the car"

After driving drunk and crashing into a house!!!

 

[MrShady]

I deal with large Teams meetings often that are set up by my subordinates.

DEI hire.

Who put you in charge of anything Jesus christ lol

 

[calavera2]

I deal with large Teams meetings often that are set up by my subordinates. If one of them screws up and invites a competitor or someone else we don't want on a call that sits back and stays quiet... should I be fired because important information was shared?

Note: The information being valuable in this case expires in less than a day. There was zero adverse results.

Hegeseth did zero wrong. These ridiculous attacks on him for this event tell us the Left Cult is mental or unethical or both.

Hegseth is a good boy dindu nothing wrong

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

Then why does the CIA use it?

Can you cite where the CIA uses it for sensitive/classified information?

 

[James Bomb]

Can you cite where the CIA uses it for sensitive/classified information?

No he can't, this is normally about the time where he ghosts in every thread

 

[GrantB13]

Back up there little fella. Again... did you bring up his brother, lawyer, and wife?

Did you know what I shared about the clearances, their jobs, and why they would be involved? Or did you just ignore the facts and put your mindless rant our there?

Just because they work in the same building and have clearances doesn't mean they're free to go into any meeting. Would it be fine if a random guy that works in another industry but holds a secret or top secret clearance to walk up and say "yo, I'm gud. I gots my clearance"?

Then your issue is with the Biden Administration that made the Signal Groups the standard.

You don't know much about Signal do you?

Do you know that it literally says when someone is added to the group? He went undetected after being announced. Everyone in the chat can see that he was added so that means everyone in there equally missed it. And some of them were top intelligence employees lol. Not a big confidence builder when the FBI and CIA director don't even know they were rudimentary compromised.

 

[koquerelle]

Clearly, someone had to take the fall.

I don't know about that.

A normal government: Yes.

This government: Mmm.

 

[koquerelle]

I deal with large Teams meetings often that are set up by my subordinates. If one of them screws up and invites a competitor or someone else we don't want on a call that sits back and stays quiet... should I be fired because important information was shared?

Yes, you should be fucking fired. Without any hesitation. You're responsible for the people below you (specially so when we're talking about vital meetings).

 

[Damien Karras]

I find it hilariously sad that Republican supporters don't take their national security seriously. What is it going to take to get them to change their mind? Another 9-11?

 

[Dalarna3]

Everybody needs their Oliver North

 

[Limbo Pete]

I find it hilariously sad that Republican supporters don't take their national security seriously. What is it going to take to get them to change their mind? Another 9-11?

They'll blame that on the Democrats and use it as an excuse to take more power

 

[Hellowhosthat]

I deal with large Teams meetings often that are set up by my subordinates. If one of them screws up and invites a competitor or someone else we don't want on a call that sits back and stays quiet... should I be fired because important information was shared?

Note: The information being valuable in this case expires in less than a day. There was zero adverse results.

Hegeseth did zero wrong. These ridiculous attacks on him for this event tell us the Left Cult is mental or unethical or both.

Ultimately the buck stops with you yes. You choose whether you want your subordinate to set stuff up and if you make a judgement call that they can do it and they fuck it up, it's on you.

 

[koquerelle]

They'll blame that on the Democrats and use it as an excuse to take more power

They blame everything on Democrats. It's their go to move. It's always our fault.

 

[PBAC]

but why?

 

[koquerelle]

Ultimately the buck stops with you yes. You choose whether you want your subordinate to set stuff up and if you make a judgement call that they can do it and they fuck it up, it's on you.

You shouldn't have to explain it. It's been like this forever. We're not talking about a subordinate who handed the wrong forks at a buffet. Trying to justify the communication blunder demonstrate bad faith.

 

[Darkballs]

I deal with large Teams meetings often that are set up by my subordinates. If one of them screws up and invites a competitor or someone else we don't want on a call that sits back and stays quiet... should I be fired because important information was shared?

If you were the Secretary of Defense and you were openly discussing classified material on an nonsecure device, then yes, you absolutely should be fired and a criminal investigation launched. That's what would have happened to me or anyone else I know who had a TS/SCI clearance.

And buddy, stripping all the relevant context out of this and pretending that classified military strikes are of the same vein as some routine business meeting you'd have at the dildo store, is just dumb.