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[Voodoo_Child906]

I deal with large Teams meetings often that are set up by my subordinates. If one of them screws up and invites a competitor or someone else we don't want on a call that sits back and stays quiet... should I be fired because important information was shared?

Note: The information being valuable in this case expires in less than a day. There was zero adverse results.

Hegeseth did zero wrong. These ridiculous attacks on him for this event tell us the Left Cult is mental or unethical or both.

Yes as you should known that a Teams meeting was an unsecure platform for attack discussions. You should have ensured that all communications of that nature were conducted on secure channels and reprimanded your subordinate for putting that discussion on Teams.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Thats a start. Hegseth has to go next. Hopefully, his next fuck up will be the last

 

[44nutman]

I wonder if Hegseth every makes it to the Tune Inn in DC.
Great dive bar that serves breakfast. Every time I have been in there, you will see a dude that might be homeless sitting at the bar shooting the shit with a dude whose cuff links are worth as much as a home.
When I used to fly into DC to catch the Phillies play an afternoon game, would always be at the Tune Inn by 9:30 AM, Yuengling and breakfast, leave there around 11:30 am go to the game, take the train from the game to the airport and fly back home. My buddy in Florida was a Nats fan, and those were some great day trips.
Side Note, watched Obama throw out the first pitch once, for a dude that can play hoops he throws the ball terribly. Second side note, if a President is ever throwing out the first pitch, get there early. Took like an hour to get through security. It was cool seeing the snipers on the roof of the stadium.
If anyone is ever in DC. Great bar.

Tune Inn Restaurant & Bar

tuneinndc.com

 

[Rational Poster]

I deal with large Teams meetings often that are set up by my subordinates. If one of them screws up and invites a competitor or someone else we don't want on a call that sits back and stays quiet... should I be fired because important information was shared?

Note: The information being valuable in this case expires in less than a day. There was zero adverse results.

Hegeseth did zero wrong. These ridiculous attacks on him for this event tell us the Left Cult is mental or unethical or both.

This is dumb and dishonest as hell.

We're talking about some of the most classified communications that exist, not your stupid sales goals.

The person sharing the information has a sworn obligation to defend that information. It's their duty to make sure that whoever they're sharing it with has the clearance to be hearing it. Relying on subordinates to make that determination is already a dereliction of that duty.

That's not even getting into how dumb it is to share stuff like this over publicly available chat app with members of the chat group all over the world, including in Russia and Asia-Pacific. Or the fact that Hegseth has himself setup other group chats with his family members and friends that have no clearance at all.

 

[44nutman]

You take what the Left Cult MSM tells you and don't examine it.

His brother is a Pentagon employee with the clearances and part of the team. Guess what... so is his lawyer. His wife has only joined him for intros and was not part of it. Do you like being misled as long as it pushes your agenda?

Weren't you the one calling the first Signal fuck up fake as well?
Speaking of being misled as long as your agenda pushes it.

 

[Confucamus]

Smart move by Trump. Although there wasn't enough info on this chats to put anyone in danger, there's a possibility there could have been. Can't play around with stuff like that.

 

[SurferH2O]

Weren't you the one calling the first Signal fuck up fake as well?
Speaking of being misled as long as your agenda pushes it.

Back up there little fella. Again... did you bring up his brother, lawyer, and wife?

Did you know what I shared about the clearances, their jobs, and why they would be involved? Or did you just ignore the facts and put your mindless rant our there?

 

[SurferH2O]

Yes as you should known that a Teams meeting was an unsecure platform for attack discussions. You should have ensured that all communications of that nature were conducted on secure channels and reprimanded your subordinate for putting that discussion on Teams.

Then your issue is with the Biden Administration that made the Signal Groups the standard.

You don't know much about Signal do you?

 

[SurferH2O]

This is dumb and dishonest as hell.

We're talking about some of the most classified communications that exist, not your stupid sales goals.

The person sharing the information has a sworn obligation to defend that information. It's their duty to make sure that whoever they're sharing it with has the clearance to be hearing it. Relying on subordinates to make that determination is already a dereliction of that duty.

That's not even getting into how dumb it is to share stuff like this over publicly available chat app with members of the chat group all over the world, including in Russia and Asia-Pacific. Or the fact that Hegseth has himself setup other group chats with his family members and friends that have no clearance at all.

Then your issue is with the Biden Administration for approving and making Signal the standard.

 

[Rational Poster]

Then your issue is with the Biden Administration for approving and making Signal the standard.

No it's not. It was never approved by the Biden administration to have these sorts of conversations. Nor does that absolve the holders of classified information from the responsibility of who they share it with.

Again, dishonest and stupid.

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

Then your issue is with the Biden Administration that made the Signal Groups the standard.

You don't know much about Signal do you?

They didn't make it the standard for discussing imminent attack plans, you're crazy if you think so. I know that in Signal, a person can add anyone in their contacts to any chat that they are an Admin in. That alone makes it unsuitable for sensitive security discussion.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Then your issue is with the Biden Administration that made the Signal Groups the standard.

You don't know much about Signal do you?

Signal groups have never be authorized for discussion of classified information. In fact, the auto delete function of the app explicitly goes against laws on maintaining documentation/discussion of classified information

You don't know much about Signal do you?

 

[curryjunkie]

You take what the Left Cult MSM tells you and don't examine it.

His brother is a Pentagon employee with the clearances and part of the team. Guess what... so is his lawyer. His wife has only joined him for intros and was not part of it. Do you like being misled as long as it pushes your agenda?

intros? are his lawyer and brother cleared to discuss attack plans?

 

[SurferH2O]

No it's not. It was never approved by the Biden administration to have these sorts of conversations. Nor does that absolve the holders of classified information from the responsibility of who they share it with.

Again, dishonest and stupid.

They do it all the time you uninformed goof. Even the CIA uses it. There was no legit reason to fire Walz. I disagree with Trump here.

 

[SurferH2O]

intros? are his lawyer and brother cleared to discuss attack plans?

Do you know their roles and what they do?

 

[SurferH2O]

They didn't make it the standard for discussing imminent attack plans, you're crazy if you think so. I know that in Signal, a person can add anyone in their contacts to any chat that they are an Admin in. That alone makes it unsuitable for sensitive security discussion.

Then why does the CIA use it?

 

[SurferH2O]

Signal groups have never be authorized for discussion of classified information. In fact, the auto delete function of the app explicitly goes against laws on maintaining documentation/discussion of classified information

You don't know much about Signal do you?

Apparently more than you. It is default installed on most CIA machines.

 

[curryjunkie]

Do you know their roles and what they do?

i know his wife is a fox news employee, do you have a source that says his brother and lawyer are cleared for secret military operations?

 

[Rational Poster]

They do it all the time you uninformed goof. Even the CIA uses it. There was no legit reason to fire Walz. I disagree with Trump here.

This is just a flat out lie, it was never approved to be used to discuss this sort of classified communication.

 

[SurferH2O]

Time to change the thread title.

Trump announces Mike Waltz as UN ambassador pick

President Trump announced his choice to serve as ambassador to the U.N. after Rep. Elise Stefanik withdrew her nomination amid concern over the GOP's slim majority in the House.

www.foxnews.com