Waitress assaults customers for not tipping

evansusmc2 said:
This is still mostly an American thing/problem. Am I right?

Although some restaurant workers in South America have learned about our tipping culture recently and have started using it against American customers. Especially in Colombia. At the end they look at you as if it's your job to tip after paying the bill. Even when the 10% "propina" charge is visibly displayed on the receipt.
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Yeah, try leaving a tip in Japan.......
 
Mike said:
The way everyone is terminally online it's gonna fuck up a LOT of stuff pretty soon here. Just imagine an inception like world where you're never REALLY sure what's real and what's not, combined with rapidly defining mental health on a national level.

Idk I feel like people should be more concerned about it but a lot of stuff is tucked up right now. I thought it would take more than a decade for black mirror scenarios to start unfolding in real life.
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The real trouble comes from the fact that behaviour in people is getting stranger and stranger....... Making you question the reality of some of this AI generated content......
 
William Huggins said:
The real trouble comes from the fact that behaviour in people is getting stranger and stranger....... Making you question the reality of some of this AI generated content......
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Well I'm pretty confident that we've never had so many mentally distressed people just... roaming around having adventures. Iys pretty tucked tbh. I've moved a lot I the last 15 years, and in that time I haven't lived in ot passed through a single city that didn't have a visibly obvious homeless problem.

I work nights and before I moved I'd go on walks around downtown just to clear my head because I was in a tiny studio. The sheer number of drugged out zombies everywhere 24/7 is honestly distressing.

Part of me gradually becoming a shut in the last few years is just living downtown and constantly being surrounded by the filth and the despair. I only feel safe and comfortable alone in my apartment anymore.
 
If you don't like it, get a job where you don't have to rely on tips to survive.

I had a low-paid, customer service job once. I could survive on minimum wage alone but the topic of tips made things toxic regardless. It was the type of job where you were constantly reminded of your colleagues stabbing you in the back.
 
William Huggins said:
The real trouble comes from the fact that behaviour in people is getting stranger and stranger....... Making you question the reality of some of this AI generated content......
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I've been saying for about 10 years that the crazy idea that we either already are in a simulation or that we're being prepped for something like that, "we're halfway there" just take a look around at how everyone has their face in a screen when they are walking, biking, driving, hanging out, it's everywhere.
 
Wrath of Foamy said:
If you don't like it, get a job where you don't have to rely on tips to survive.

I had a low-paid, customer service job once. I could survive on minimum wage alone but the topic of tips made things toxic regardless. It was the type of job where you were constantly reminded of your colleagues stabbing you in the back.
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How did they stab you in the back?

Of course, in my exp, people are so nasty and vile that you don't have a job you're a bum, you get a job and it's not good enough. My exp. no ones happy no matter what, and that's not to even touch on all the wicked little internecine games people play at work. What a waste of life any way you cut it, i'd rather be dead than to live like most people.
 
mozfonky said:
How did they stab you in the back?

Of course, in my exp, people are so nasty and vile that you don't have a job you're a bum, you get a job and it's not good enough. My exp. no ones happy no matter what, and that's not to even touch on all the wicked little internecine games people play at work. What a waste of life any way you cut it, i'd rather be dead than to live like most people.
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They'll negotiate and bribe allocators to do the flights where the passengers would tip the most.

With me, I worked as a Porter, whilst they worked as a Passenger Service Assistant. They'd take their passenger from either the jetty or a waiting area before border control, and we would meet in the baggage reclaim ball to pick up their luggage.

Basically, either they would push and pull, pushing a passenger with one hand and pulling the luggage with another, or they would meet who was picking them up in arrivals, tell them to take the luggage and then take all of the tip at either the car park or the pick up point. If I took the luggage to the car, I probably would have gotten some.
 
Wrath of Foamy said:
They'll negotiate and bribe allocators to do the flights where the passengers would tip the most.

With me, I worked as a Porter, whilst they worked as a Passenger Service Assistant. They'd take their passenger from either the jetty or a waiting area before border control, and we would meet in the baggage reclaim ball to pick up their luggage.

Basically, either they would push and pull, pushing a passenger with one hand and pulling the luggage with another, or they would meet who was picking them up in arrivals, tell them to take the luggage and then take all of the tip at either the car park or the pick up point. If I took the luggage to the car, I probably would have gotten some.
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I don't think we have much of that here in the US.

I do recall some asshole just taking my luggage when i was a naive 20 year old and rolling it out for me without asking and then waiting for a tip. I was a nice guy then, if someone tried that today i'd tell him to fuck off, i don't need your help.
 
mozfonky said:
I don't think we have much of that here in the US.

I do recall some asshole just taking my luggage when i was a naive 20 year old and rolling it out for me without asking and then waiting for a tip. I was a nice guy then, if someone tried that today i'd tell him to fuck off, i don't need your help.
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You probably do in airports. I'd be surprised if Passenger Service Assistants/Disability Services and Porters, both commercial and for wheelchairs, didn't get tips when they completed each individual job.

Accepting tip in certain airports is a sackable offence as per bylaw, but a commercial porter handles money as part of the job so they won't get caught unless the passenger complains and anyone in the disability services uniform handling money sticks out like a sore thumb, but they do it anyway. People have been sacked for it, however.

I'm not bitter about it anymore. I moved onto bigger and better things. I just wish that out of my seven years there, I invested in myself and moved on a year in and not seven years in.
 
mozfonky said:
ya, customer service makes customers infantile, they revert to a 3 year old. You'd think maturity and sense would prevail but they don't. I already hate people, I don't need much more contact than I already have.
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Tell me about it. I work retail, and I regularly find myself thinking thoughts about the customers that would make a Hamas terrorist wince and say, "Bro...you're taking that TOO far!"
 
Wrath of Foamy said:
You probably do in airports. I'd be surprised if Passenger Service Assistants/Disability Services and Porters, both commercial and for wheelchairs, didn't get tips when they completed each individual job.

Accepting tip in certain airports is a sackable offence as per bylaw, but a commercial porter handles money as part of the job so they won't get caught unless the passenger complains and anyone in the disability services uniform handling money sticks out like a sore thumb, but they do it anyway. People have been sacked for it, however.

I'm not bitter about it anymore. I moved onto bigger and better things. I just wish that out of my seven years there, I invested in myself and moved on a year in and not seven years in.
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maybe they do, i don't travel much. I don't have a problem with paying someone for a service, the pushiness of some guy who probably was self employed would piss me the fuck off. It's like those bums we had downtown who'd be flagging and pointing to a parking space, "helping" you park and then wanting money. Get a real job you fuck.

Shit, the whole world got some scam and if they can get away with giving you shit you didn't ask for or need, they will and they will drain the fuck out of you. It's sick.

I don't mind tipping at restaurants or where it's always been expected. If you grew up in the US you know that you are supposed to tip 10-15 percent at certain business' and not at others. Fast food places have to deal with every bit as much nagging and stress as restaurant workers and they generally don't take tips. People whining about stuff like that is just petty to me though. You know where to go to if you don't want to tip.

As far as that entire line of work having some dregs? Yes, in fact, they say drug users are most common in that business. And yes, there are certain situations where they'll piss you off or try to rip you off. There have been a couple occasions where either I or someone I know was ripped off by their usually waitress. You'll give them cash and they'll shortchange you on your refund or not bring it at all. Those people hurt themselves in the end because they can't do that too many times without being fired unless we're talking about skanks in stripclubs who get away with shit like that all the time.
 
KnightTemplar said:
Tell me about it. I work retail, and I regularly find myself thinking thoughts about the customers that would make a Hamas terrorist wince and say, "Bro...you're taking that TOO far!"
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I recall working at a grocery store and it got to the point where I just started feeling pissed every time I looked at a person coming in. People are fucking stupid, they'll come in and interrupt whatever you're doing and ask, "where's the salt man" just ignorance. I sympathize for people who are totally burned out on it and still have to show up everyday, I've known quite a few who end up in unibomber territory.

I also knew a people person, all around nice guy who worked at a pawn shop, always friendly, always kind. One time I came in and he was snapping at everyone who came up to him. I said nothing but the next time I saw him I said, "you were pissed the last time I came in" and he said, "people make you like that".
 
mozfonky said:
maybe they do, i don't travel much. I don't have a problem with paying someone for a service, the pushiness of some guy who probably was self employed would piss me the fuck off. It's like those bums we had downtown who'd be flagging and pointing to a parking space, "helping" you park and then wanting money. Get a real job you fuck.

Shit, the whole world got some scam and if they can get away with giving you shit you didn't ask for or need, they will and they will drain the fuck out of you. It's sick.

I don't mind tipping at restaurants or where it's always been expected. If you grew up in the US you know that you are supposed to tip 10-15 percent at certain business' and not at others. Fast food places have to deal with every bit as much nagging and stress as restaurant workers and they generally don't take tips. People whining about stuff like that is just petty to me though. You know where to go to if you don't want to tip.

As far as that entire line of work having some dregs? Yes, in fact, they say drug users are most common in that business. And yes, there are certain situations where they'll piss you off or try to rip you off. There have been a couple occasions where either I or someone I know was ripped off by their usually waitress. You'll give them cash and they'll shortchange you on your refund or not bring it at all. Those people hurt themselves in the end because they can't do that too many times without being fired unless we're talking about skanks in stripclubs who get away with shit like that all the time.
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To be honest, I've always thought that tipping was just an extension of gratitude and should never be a requirement or an obligation.

I didn't have problems with people who didn't tip, I had problems with people who took the opportunity for a tip away from me.

Things is as well, is that I based my lifestyle off my base income and only found myself desperate for extra money a few times. A lot of my colleagues were low-skilled migrants who had housewives and kids to feed. I had one passenger give my Sri Lankan colleague two one pound coins for ya and when I requested half, he pouted and quietly said..."I have kids".….

Fuck me, what a waste of life I was in staying there...
 
Wrath of Foamy said:
To be honest, I've always thought that tipping was just an extension of gratitude and should never be a requirement or an obligation.

I didn't have problems with people who didn't tip, I had problems with people who took the opportunity for a tip away from me.

Things is as well, is that I based my lifestyle off my base income and only found myself desperate for extra money a few times. A lot of my colleagues were low-skilled migrants who had housewives and kids to feed. I had one passenger give my Sri Lankan colleague two one pound coins for ya and when I requested half, he pouted and quietly said..."I have kids".….

Fuck me, what a waste of life I was in staying there...
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what country?
 
evansusmc2 said:
Was stationed there from 2001-2003. Did a 7 day vacation in Yamaguchi area back in August. You're right. Tipping is still not a thing in Japan.
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when i tip at my favorite chinese restaurant they try to give it back but I've been going there so long and they love me (all girls) or maybe they think I'm a charity case, I dunno. People usually don't turn down free money.
 
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