Volk benches 275lb 1 rep max

[Satchm0]

For a 5'6 170lb professional athlete I'd say that's not impressive at all. It's a solid number for a normal gym goer, but there's highschool lifters his size who can press than 1x.

Bench pressing isn't that important in regards to fighting though, I'd argue squat and deadlift numbers mean more and they still don't mean a ton.

Typical sherdogger comment right on cue.

 

[Gamer2k4]

To use a blanket statement like 'better athletes would likely be better lifters' is like saying a math wiz would have the proclivity to be good at solving critical thinking problems. No fuckin shit sherlock.

Then we agree, and I have no idea why you're so insistent on arguing something I'm not. You've spun up some bizarre debate in your head that has nothing to do with anything I've said or the points I've actually made, and you keep arguing it even though you've just said we're on the same page.

 

[Sweater of AV]

Classic Sherdog. Volk should hang his head in shame for putting up 275. It’s probably best to just retire and save further embarrassment.

 

[NoSmilez]

Along the thread there are people who at 18 benched way more than Volk, then at 16, then at 14 … soon we’ll discover that Sherdoggers at 10-12 years of age can already bench over 250 … <45>

Really a unique breed the Sherdoggers, as I hardly see any adults benching 250 at any gyms, except for a few big men focusing primarily on lifting. But many here did it pre-puberty!

Wait a min. You weren't 250lbs by the time you were 12?

 

[mkt]

I could do that with two fingers, the same way Bruce Lee did pushups. But this is Sherdog, so proof isn't necessary. My word is as good as I can stretch it.

 

[Trabaho]

Someone's insecure..

Practicing punches makes your punches better, not bench pressing.

Dips, weighted unweighted, single arm planks, palloff presses, contralateral presses, push ups variations are exponentially more viable than a heavy Bench press, in terms of increasing KO potential.

And benching increases grip strength?
I GUESS it can assist in it. But macebell, bulgarian bag swings, pinch holds, gi bjj would do it so much better.

And I dont bench press, at all

OK

 

[BBMN]

310
Brandon Mose
11/20/2010

That is the IPA , world record, for raw bench press, 160 pounds, 16-17 years old. You actually broke the world record. If you know anyone that can bench that, please tell them to enter a powerlift competition. No joke, they have THE WORLD RECORD for teens.

It's almost like this Geralt character is a lying piece of shit. Keep in mind, it's not just him that was putting up these numbers, but like half the guys he knew. Just an entire class of kids, all in the top 0.1% of the planet. LOL. They just eat 11,000 calories a day at lunch, and lift Dodge Rams in gym class, and then murder every team in the tri-state area at football every Friday night.

TOTALLY.

 

[quebert]

I'm not equating it, but there's absolutely a correlation. If you're a world-class athlete, you're going to be physically stronger, and that's going to show up in the weight room.

I'm not saying better lifters are going to be better athletes. What I am saying is that better athletes are also likely to be better lifters.

275 for his weight would put him well in the upper end of even athletes who aren't gym rats. Sherdog forums are the only place where a person who doesn't do much lifting benching 1.7x his body weight is considered "very unimpressive"

Usain Bolt's one of the most elite athletes ever, yet I don't suspect he could bench all that much.

 

[brownsmith76]

Usain Bolt's one of the most elite athletes ever, yet I don't suspect he could bench all that much.

 

[Chagaev]

Usain Bolt's one of the most elite athletes ever, yet I don't suspect he could bench all that much.

He should, with all that fast twitch fibers. If he can't, he probably never trained for it. But I doubt it.

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

Sherdog warm-up weight for a SRM? Eh

 

[Willek]

I remember when I used to bench 275.

Then I hit puberty.

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

He should, with all that fast twitch fibers. If he can't, he probably never trained for it. But I doubt it.

He said he can bench 140kg and doesn't do much weight training

 

[BobVulture]

no. a world class arm wrestler doesn't need a high bench press, pulldown, deadlift, or a squat. nor does a world class figure skater.
*add in about a dozen more sports
Royce gracie didn't squat jack shit before winning the title.
No fuckin pro Thai fighter I've met and trained with gives two shits about a high squat or deadlift.

Would some conventional gym lifts help? for some? POSSIBLY. Or it could impede.

To use a blanket statement like 'better athletes would likely be better lifters' is like saying a math wiz would have the proclivity to be good at solving critical thinking problems. No fuckin shit sherlock.

Hit 3x BW deadlift, then go train BJJ and see if that does fuck all for your performance against a black belt who doesn't lift at all

Royce Gracie fought dudes with literally made up martial arts backgrounds. Why with almost zero knowledge of submissions did Kimo and Dan Severn give him the fight of his life?

Strength or numbers clearly is going to barely matter in striking sports. Find me a NFL lineman that doesn't squat 300lbs, or a WR that runs a 4.8, or a top wrestler that isn't doing pull-ups with 100lbs on them. No one will give a shit about your precise route running if youre hitting a 4.8, or your great blocking technique with a 200lb squat.

Obviously it's not going to be the end all be all but dont act like having serious measurable attributes isn't going to be a prerequisite of being at the top level of sports like wrestling or football. Shit like Tom Brady being the top guy is an aberration not norm, Jalen Hurts squats 600lbs and Tyreek Hill runs a sub 4.3.

 

[Deleted member 591917]

Royce Gracie fought dudes with literally made up martial arts backgrounds. Why with almost zero knowledge of submissions did Kimo and Dan Severn give him the fight of his life?

Strength or numbers clearly is going to barely matter in striking sports. Find me a NFL lineman that doesn't squat 300lbs, or a WR that runs a 4.8, or a top wrestler that isn't doing pull-ups with 100lbs on them. No one will give a shit about your precise route running if youre hitting a 4.8, or your great blocking technique with a 200lb squat.

Obviously it's not going to be the end all be all but dont act like having serious measurable attributes isn't going to be a prerequisite of being at the top level of sports like wrestling or football. Shit like Tom Brady being the top guy is an aberration not norm, Jalen Hurts squats 600lbs and Tyreek Hill runs a sub 4.3.

How Dan Severn who is a lifelong Judoka had zero knowledge of submissions ???

 

[BobVulture]

How Dan Severn who is a lifelong Judoka had zero knowledge of submissions ???

"Almost zero" which is about the usefulness of judo.

 

[Deleted member 591917]

"Almost zero" which is about the usefulness of judo.

You clearly never trained it. Judo is very useful. Especially Judo from the time of Dan Severn who had a lot more throws allowed in its repertoire compared to now.

 

[Bballfan123]

It's almost like this Geralt character is a lying piece of shit. Keep in mind, it's not just him that was putting up these numbers, but like half the guys he knew. Just an entire class of kids, all in the top 0.1% of the planet. LOL. They just eat 11,000 calories a day at lunch, and lift Dodge Rams in gym class, and then murder every team in the tri-state area at football every Friday night.

TOTALLY.

Nah bro, I actually have a 600 squat/600 deadlift
And beach 400

And I'm 125 lb

 

[Hezekiah]

Not impressive for a 240lb male at all.

 

[Jarvan]

Royce Gracie fought dudes with literally made up martial arts backgrounds. Why with almost zero knowledge of submissions did Kimo and Dan Severn give him the fight of his life?

Strength or numbers clearly is going to barely matter in striking sports. Find me a NFL lineman that doesn't squat 300lbs, or a WR that runs a 4.8, or a top wrestler that isn't doing pull-ups with 100lbs on them. No one will give a shit about your precise route running if youre hitting a 4.8, or your great blocking technique with a 200lb squat.

Obviously it's not going to be the end all be all but dont act like having serious measurable attributes isn't going to be a prerequisite of being at the top level of sports like wrestling or football. Shit like Tom Brady being the top guy is an aberration not norm, Jalen Hurts squats 600lbs and Tyreek Hill runs a sub 4.3.

Pretty sure you're trolling...

but Dan Severn was a high level wrestler + judoka
outweighed Royce by around 70 fucking pounds

Ken Shamrock, like it or not, was one of the pioneers of submission fighting for the american audience

etc etc. Royce never outweighed his opponents
ate fruit dinners, only used bodyweight exercises, and rolled jits

I'll repeat it again just in case you're fully retarded.
Weight training has its place in all sports. 100%.

I was arguing that the bench press sucks balls for martial arts, and you went ahead and made up an argument with yourself