Volk benches 275lb 1 rep max

[Trabaho]

We do push ups in boxing mainly to develop muscular endurance, especially for shoulders and triceps, which are more important in punching than pectorals.

Do muscle strength is good for mma and boxing. Like how is that an argument.

 

[Gamer2k4]

its actually not reasonable if their athletic performance in their sport does not directly benefit by benching a shit ton of weight. would you expect a soccer player to bench twice their weight too?

No, but only because their arms are literally the only part of the body that they're banned from using in their sport. I would expect them to have running times and distances well above average, though, and perhaps decent squat maxes as well.

 

[Jarvan]

How is it useless? It makes your grab and punches strong. You must bench press like a girl, shake with 100 pounds

Someone's insecure..

Practicing punches makes your punches better, not bench pressing.

Dips, weighted unweighted, single arm planks, palloff presses, contralateral presses, push ups variations are exponentially more viable than a heavy Bench press, in terms of increasing KO potential.

And benching increases grip strength?
I GUESS it can assist in it. But macebell, bulgarian bag swings, pinch holds, gi bjj would do it so much better.

And I dont bench press, at all

 

[Jarvan]

How is it useless? It makes your grab and punches strong. You must bench press like a girl, shake with 100 pounds

And buddy, push ups and Bench pressing are COMPLETELY different

 

[Jarvan]

No, but only because their arms are literally the only part of the body that they're banned from using in their sport. I would expect them to have running times and distances well above average, though, and perhaps decent squat maxes as well.

So higher squat strength equates to better, higher ranking players?

Take an honest look at what you're implying and contrast it to any sport in the world, including American football.

The highest squats don't yield the best linemen

The highest 40 doesn't get the most receiving yards

Tom Brady was about as athletic as a standard college player, and yet, you already know

Weight training has its place in sports, but high numbers don't mean jack shit, unless that person is training specifically for powerlifting

EVEN in olympic lifting, the highest front squats don't get on the podium

Anyone who equates gym strength, especially arbitrary lifts like the bench, to sports performance is greatly misled.

 

[AmonTobin]

That’s his plan B if he’s ever stuck on his back and wants a quick escape from the bottom. Brute strength to pop a reversal or separation.

 

[stacrafty]

Someone's insecure..

Practicing punches makes your punches better, not bench pressing.

Dips, weighted unweighted, single arm planks, palloff presses, contralateral presses, push ups variations are exponentially more viable than a heavy Bench press, in terms of increasing KO potential.

And benching increases grip strength?
I GUESS it can assist in it. But macebell, bulgarian bag swings, pinch holds, gi bjj would do it so much better.

And I dont bench press, at all

sounds like you actually train

I had a 1rm of 120kg in my early 30's @74kg. Lots of gym, heavy reps, big rests, eating heaps no cardio.

Fast forward to 2020, I did an amatuer mma fight. Lots of conditioning - pressups, burpees, pullups, kettlebell stuff. hard sessions. A tonne of drills, padwork and in the last 8 weeks sparring 5x a week. No gym.

A week after the fight went to the gym with a friend, did some bench for shits and giggles. Got out 15 reps on 70kg (my bodyweight) and 1rm of 92kg.
Was pretty blown away by muscle memory and just what a tonne of plain ol pressups will do.

 

[piropiro]

Along the thread there are people who at 18 benched way more than Volk, then at 16, then at 14 … soon we’ll discover that Sherdoggers at 10-12 years of age can already bench over 250 … <45>

Really a unique breed the Sherdoggers, as I hardly see any adults benching 250 at any gyms, except for a few big men focusing primarily on lifting. But many here did it pre-puberty!

 

[Ballsaque]

Along the thread there are people who at 18 benched way more than Volk, then at 16, then at 14 … soon we’ll discover that Sherdoggers at 10-12 years of age can already bench over 250 … <45>

Really a unique breed the Sherdoggers, as I hardly see any adults benching 250 at any gyms, except for a few big men focusing primarily on lifting. But many here did it pre-puberty!

Welcome to the dawg.

 

[Ballsaque]

275 is a lot of weight for a novice. People think it's not because they lie when it comes to posting their actual numbers.
But after about a year of solid training, 275 wouldn't be all that hard to 1 rep max.

That said, what you do in the gym doesn't always translate to functional strength. You could be benching 315, but when it comes to picking up some awkward item weighting around 200lbs most would struggle.

LOL

 

[Vehap1]

Standard Sherdogger benches 365
Also we are all 6'5 with very long arms which makes benching harder

Yeah, our 84 inch reach makes it slightly harder
Its also harder with our 22 cm dick size, gets stuck on the bench all the time, not comfortable to benchpress

 

[Swiftie]

Most Sherdoggers use 275lbs for preacher curls.

 

[Ballsaque]

Post a video of me lifting 21 years ago? Lol sorry chief I can’t swing that for you.

That seems like a stretch. There’s 12 kids I coach on the high school team that can destroy those numbers. Only 4 of them powerlift. Probably 60+% of the players I’ve worked with at Rutgers can do that no problem.

now was I weighed in for them? Absolutely not. I easily could’ve been 170ish and been remembering wrong. The point is there’s ALOT of people that can do it. I didn’t do anything legitimate until years later.


Look up registered powerlifting meets. It’s 50ish percentile

12 kids that you coach, that lift more than 3 plates bench, 5 plates squat and 5 plate dl at 160 pounds 16 years old? Lets see some vids chief

 

[Jarvan]

sounds like you actually train

I had a 1rm of 120kg in my early 30's @74kg. Lots of gym, heavy reps, big rests, eating heaps no cardio.

Fast forward to 2020, I did an amatuer mma fight. Lots of conditioning - pressups, burpees, pullups, kettlebell stuff. hard sessions. A tonne of drills, padwork and in the last 8 weeks sparring 5x a week. No gym.

A week after the fight went to the gym with a friend, did some bench for shits and giggles. Got out 15 reps on 70kg (my bodyweight) and 1rm of 92kg.
Was pretty blown away by muscle memory and just what a tonne of plain ol pressups will do.

Muscle memory isn't simply your muscles remembering how to do things, it's INGRAINED neurological programming information that is literally stored on your body's harddrive (nucleus/CNS/capillary network/joints/bones) and ready to open at your command. Trouble can occur if the machinery can not keep up with the demand.
Your tendons and ligaments remember what 120kg's feels like... depending on how often you hit it. If you just wake up the muscles a bit (consistent training), you can get reach relatively close to your all time PR. And with proper training, achieve your pinnacle lift again.
In fact, a long lay off can even be beneficial... by letting the hard to heal/train tendons and ligaments fully heal.

We're pretty much same body weight so I'll indulge you a bit
I maintain an easy 180kg DL, rarely ever training above 100kgs.
(maybe go heavy once every 6 weeks or so, just to see where I'm at)
I don't bench, and haven't, at least since November of last year, and rarely even before so I couldn't tell ya where I'm at now, but my all time best was 245lbs (115ish kg?) for 3 reps.
I never really gave a fuck about benching
And having been a coach for the last 18 years, I'd say upwards of 90% of shoulder problems and injuries stem from benching and incline benching... Kinda insane figure, but I implore you to ask someone with a shoulder injury how they hurt it...
Hence I found myself questioning the efficacy and carryover to sports. It's absolutely not a useless exercise. My tits definitely feel huge after a set, but I'm not a bodybuilder. I like to armwrestle and strangle people.

 

[Credo]

Typical manlet strength, nothing to see here

 

[Asako]

Makes sense why Islam had a hard time holding him down. I doubt Islam is that strong….

I’m even wondering if most WW can bench 275. I doubt Olivera can.

 

[Doughie99]

Volks is undoubtedly one powerful man.
Be interesting to see how he does against an unpredictable tall elite striker like Rodriguez

 

[Gamer2k4]

So higher squat strength equates to better, higher ranking players?

Take an honest look at what you're implying and contrast it to any sport in the world, including American football.

The highest squats don't yield the best linemen

The highest 40 doesn't get the most receiving yards

Tom Brady was about as athletic as a standard college player, and yet, you already know

Weight training has its place in sports, but high numbers don't mean jack shit, unless that person is training specifically for powerlifting

EVEN in olympic lifting, the highest front squats don't get on the podium

Anyone who equates gym strength, especially arbitrary lifts like the bench, to sports performance is greatly misled.

I'm not equating it, but there's absolutely a correlation. If you're a world-class athlete, you're going to be physically stronger, and that's going to show up in the weight room.

I'm not saying better lifters are going to be better athletes. What I am saying is that better athletes are also likely to be better lifters.

 

[Gamer2k4]

Volks is undoubtedly one powerful man.
Be interesting to see how he does against an unpredictable tall elite striker like Rodriguez

He did okay against Holloway, didn't he?

 

[Jarvan]

I'm not equating it, but there's absolutely a correlation. If you're a world-class athlete, you're going to be physically stronger, and that's going to show up in the weight room.

I'm not saying better lifters are going to be better athletes. What I am saying is that better athletes are also likely to be better lifters.

no. a world class arm wrestler doesn't need a high bench press, pulldown, deadlift, or a squat. nor does a world class figure skater.
*add in about a dozen more sports
Royce gracie didn't squat jack shit before winning the title.
No fuckin pro Thai fighter I've met and trained with gives two shits about a high squat or deadlift.

Would some conventional gym lifts help? for some? POSSIBLY. Or it could impede.

To use a blanket statement like 'better athletes would likely be better lifters' is like saying a math wiz would have the proclivity to be good at solving critical thinking problems. No fuckin shit sherlock.

Hit 3x BW deadlift, then go train BJJ and see if that does fuck all for your performance against a black belt who doesn't lift at all