International Virus outbreak in China (and elsewhere)

[Letssnuggle]

poop in drinking water is natural and is good for training our immune system. It’s the chemicals they mix in with water that are destroying our bodies and immune system making it easier for us to get diseases.

No.

 

[Letssnuggle]

You prefer your poop on your meat I presume

https://www.pcrm.org/news/news-rele...rs-fecal-contamination-chicken-and-other-meat

Do you cook your water?

 

[ithinktheymad]

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[AgonyandIrony]

Does... Does @Hogey eat poop?

 

[TUFNewb]

But there are still outbreaks for things that we can vaccinate for. So... what's the point? To make these things stronger? To then make stronger vaccines? I mean really

They only spread in places where funding/supplies for childhood vaccination programs is limited, or communities where there are significant numbers who purposely don't have their kids vaccinated. That in itself is proof they work, and work well.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

Do you cook your water?

So you are fine eating sh*t as long as it's cooked ?

 

[all caps]

They only spread in places where funding/supplies for childhood vaccination programs is limited, or communities where there are significant numbers who purposely don't have their kids vaccinated. That in itself is proof they work, and work well.

Vaccines don't make diseases "stronger", they cripple their ability to spread amounts populations and have saved millions of lives. That's the point.

That's not true, there was recently a story of a place that was 100% vaccinated yet had a major outbreak. I think it was measles? Maybe @PhitePhan remembers what I'm thinking of

 

[TUFNewb]

That's not true, there was recently a story of a place that was 100% vaccinated yet had a major outbreak. I think it was measles? Maybe @PhitePhan remembers what I'm thinking of

Okay well I guess I'll just have to take you word for it since no source... but even if true that is what is called cherry picking, there are countless more examples where they have worked and saved lives. Many many more kids would be seriously fucked up or dead from measles, mumps and rubella if not for MMR.

Pointing to a handful of examples where vaccination failed and using that as an argument against all of them is like saying: "because OJ got away with murder we should abolish the police force".

 

[VivaRevolution]

Okay well I guess I'll just have to take you word for it since no source... but even if true that is what is called cherry picking, there are countless more examples where they have worked and saved lives. Many many more kids would be seriously fucked up or dead from measles, mumps and rubella if not for MMR.

Pointing to a handful of examples where vaccination failed and using that as an argument against all of them is like saying: "because OJ got away with murder we should abolish the police force".

I think you will find that most anti-vaxxers aren't anti all vaccines.

Many if fact just want a return to the 1989 vaccination schedule, and to stop with the chicken pox and pushing for HPV vaccine for males, because the risk of the vaccine is greater than the risk of the disease.

Also many so called anti-vaxxers just want DNA tests done for a potential of increased risk for adverse reaction.

I think you would find very few who actually believe that the polio vaccine causes cancer.

 

[all caps]

Okay well I guess I'll just have to take you word for it since no source... but even if true that is what is called cherry picking, there are countless more examples where they have worked and saved lives. Many many more kids would be seriously fucked up or dead from measles, mumps and rubella if not for MMR.

Pointing to a handful of examples where vaccination failed and using that as an argument against all of them is like saying: "because OJ got away with murder we should abolish the police force".

I ain't here to change your mind, just having a conversation. You can look it up if you want, or dont. I'm nobody of importance, just a guy on sherdog.

 

[TUFNewb]

I think you will find that most anti-vaxxers aren't anti all vaccines.

Many if fact just want a return to the 1989 vaccination schedule, and to stop with the chicken pox and pushing for HPV vaccine for males, because the risk of the vaccine is greater than the risk of the disease.

Also many so called anti-vaxxers just want DNA tests done for a potential of increased risk for adverse reaction.

I think you would find very few who actually believe that the polio vaccine causes cancer.

Not going to get into specifics of individual vaccines, as I am far from an expert. I was simply asked in general what is the point of vaccines and I gave the simple and obvious general answer. They have saved lives and will continue to do so.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Not going to get into specifics of individual vaccines, as I am far from an expert. I was simply asked in general what is the point of vaccines and I gave the simple and obvious general answer. They have saved lives and will continue to do so.

I hear you.

I too agree that as a whole, vaccines are good.

 

[Arashikage4Life]

So if there is an outbreak of Coronavirus in America, anti-vaxxers won't be allowed to get the vaccine (cure), right?

 

[all caps]

So if there is an outbreak of Coronavirus in America, anti-vaxxers won't be allowed to get the vaccine (cure), right?

As long as you havent sold our right to body autonomy down the river by then, God willing.

 

[Arashikage4Life]

As long as you havent sold our right to body autonomy down the river by then, God willing.

As you long as your right to "body autonomy" doesn't interfere with overall public health. Oh wait, in this case it does.

 

[all caps]

As you long as your right to "body autonomy" doesn't interfere with overall public health. Oh wait, in this case it does.

Pipe down slave.

 

[Letssnuggle]

So you are fine eating sh*t as long as it's cooked ?

Do I believe in science? Yes.

Do you understand drinking raw shit might have different consequences?

 

[Hogey]

So you are fine eating sh*t as long as it's cooked ?

its like the same concept as eating mold when you are sick

 

[Happy Man]

As you long as your right to "body autonomy" doesn't interfere with overall public health. Oh wait, in this case it does.

don’t go down that God Damn Road.....

 

[MicroBrew]

As Virus Spreads, Anger Floods Chinese Social Media

SHANGHAI — Recently, someone following the coronavirus crisis through China’s official news media would see lots of footage, often set to stirring music, praising the heroism and sacrifice of health workers marching off to stricken places.

But someone following the crisis through social media would see something else entirely: vitriolic comments and mocking memes about government officials, harrowing descriptions of untreated family members and images of hospital corridors loaded with patients, some of whom appear to be dead.

The contrast is almost never so stark in China. The government usually keeps a tight grip on what is said, seen and heard about it. But the sheer amount of criticism — and the often clever ways in which critics dodge censors, such as by referring to Xi Jinping, China’s top leader, as “Trump” or by comparing the outbreak to the Chernobyl catastrophe — have made it difficult for Beijing to control the message.

In recent days, critics have pounced when officials in the city of Wuhan, the center of the outbreak, wore their protective masks incorrectly. They have heaped scorn upon stumbling pronouncements. When Wuhan’s mayor spoke to official media on Monday, one commenter responded, “If the virus is fair, then please don’t spare this useless person.”

The condemnations stand as a rare direct challenge to the Communist Party, which brooks no dissent in the way it runs China. In some cases, Chinese leaders appear to be acknowledging people’s fear, anger and other all-too-human reactions to the crisis, showing how the party can move dramatically, if sometimes belatedly, to mollify the public.

Such criticism can go only so far, however. Some of China’s more commercially minded media outlets have covered the disease and the response thoroughly if not critically. But articles and comments about the virus continue to be deleted, and the government and internet platforms have issued fresh warnings against spreading what they call “rumors.”

“Chinese social media are full of anger, not because there was no censorship on this topic, but despite strong censorship,” said Xiao Qiang, a research scientist at the School of Information at the University of California, Berkeley, and the founder of China Digital Times, a website that monitors Chinese internet controls. “It is still possible that the censorship will suddenly increase again, as part of an effort to control the narrative.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/27/technology/china-coronavirus-censorship-social-media.html

The Chinese should , primarily, be mad at their fellow Chinese who eat all manner of wild animals and don't keep the animals in sanitary conditions. They have already had 2 large outbreaks because of their eating and sanitary habits and still did nothing.