International Virus outbreak in China (and elsewhere)

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1pedestrian said:
It's a bio-weapon intentionally released in China by the USA.

U.S. Commerce Secretary:
"Coronavirus is a good thing for the US economy"
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ross-c...bring-jobs-back-to-u-s-from-china-11580400427
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MusterX said:
My point is that it doesn't make sense to quarantine 15 million people based on a virus that might kill 2 or 3 percent of the people that get it. The measures to contain it just seem pretty extreme. Hopefully this doesn't get out of hand and spread into a massive pandemic and I get that is what they are trying to stop. Then I read this while going through the news links.

China’s deadly coronavirus may have the same death rate as Spanish flu, an expert has warned.

Professor Neil Ferguson, from Imperial College London, said the current rate of disease could be comparable to the death rate of Spanish flu.

The Spanish flu pandemic of 1918 is widely regarded as “the deadliest in history”, and is believed to have infected around 500 million people worldwide, killing between 20 and 50 million.

In the UK, it is thought around 228,000 thousand people died of Spanish flu from around 10 million people who were thought to have been infected - a death rate of around 2%.
https://news.yahoo.com/chinas-coron...ndemic-that-killed-50-m-people-151608803.html

Basically in poor countries the kill rate will be higher and if it spreads fast it could be a bad situation in terms of those killed worldwide. Spanish flu infected 500,000,000 and killed as many as 50,000,000. The kill rate may have been as high as 10% in some areas but as low as 2 or 3% in the U.K. So what that all chalks up to is that the beginning of the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918-1920 may have started off looking a lot like this coronavirus situation. This is all assuming China isn't lying or covering up and things are actually worse than televised.
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I doubt they expect the quarantine to be that effective. However, it slows the spread in other cities, giving them more time to marshal resources for the inevitable cases. Also, it gives more time to figure out a vaccine or effective treatment. Not to mention, it allows the economy to mostly function in other regions rather than the entire country to simultaneously go to shit.
 
Published in The Lancet

A new study suggests that official figures for the scale of the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak have been far too low.

The study, published in the prestigious Lancet journal, projected that as of January 25, there were 75,815 people infected in Wuhan. At the time the official figure was 761.


The true number of people infected with the deadly Wuhan coronavirus is more than 75,000, according to a scientific model, which claims the official number for those infected is far too low.

Academics at the University of Hong Kong published a paper on Friday in The Lancet, a prestigious medical journal, estimating the rate at which the virus is spreading.

It used official data on the number of infections to calculate what it said was the true extent of the disease — almost 100 times the official figures.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/real-number-coronavirus-cases-more-045024008.html


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MicroBrew said:
Published in The Lancet

A new study suggests that official figures for the scale of the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak have been far too low.

The study, published in the prestigious Lancet journal, projected that as of January 25, there were 75,815 people infected in Wuhan. At the time the official figure was 761.


The true number of people infected with the deadly Wuhan coronavirus is more than 75,000, according to a scientific model, which claims the official number for those infected is far too low.

Academics at the University of Hong Kong published a paper on Friday in The Lancet, a prestigious medical journal, estimating the rate at which the virus is spreading.

It used official data on the number of infections to calculate what it said was the true extent of the disease — almost 100 times the official figures.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/real-number-coronavirus-cases-more-045024008.html


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God help us..
 
My son and I were watching the news this morning, talking about the virus and China. We had an interesting conversation and my son made a great point.

I was saying that SARS was more deadly but didn't have the capability to spread because...

17 years ago, people in China were just getting their drivers licenses. Cars were just becoming affordable and practical for the populace. You could really only fly into Beijing, Shanghai, or a major city in China. SARS was basically contained because there wasn't personal/mass transit that was fully developed.

Now, cars are everywhere, you can fly or take rail across China with easier access and with the incubation period coupled with the Chinese New Year celebration it's been estimated that a few million people left Wuhan before the quarantine.

I hope that it'll peter out soon.
 
LogicalInsanity said:
normally, I am pretty reserved in terms of pushing the panic buttons and not being chicken little.

however, the manner in which many countries have responded, in terms of shutting down borders, airline travel, not to mention the mass quarantines...

this is different from the can "outbreaks" like SARS, Swine flu etc.
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It was the same in 2009 when the outbreak reached Mexico and nothing really happened.
 
Nameless King said:
I am not mathematician but if you go onto that virus tracker u will see something like 250 dead and 250 recovered which seems like odds of surviving are around 50%

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
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Dont know what those columns mean (ie confirmed vs recovered totals) , but there are places with 0 deaths and 20 people recovered, that would put the survival rate at 100% if you are not from Wuhan.
 
MicroBrew said:
Published in The Lancet

A new study suggests that official figures for the scale of the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak have been far too low.

The study, published in the prestigious Lancet journal, projected that as of January 25, there were 75,815 people infected in Wuhan. At the time the official figure was 761.


The true number of people infected with the deadly Wuhan coronavirus is more than 75,000, according to a scientific model, which claims the official number for those infected is far too low.

Academics at the University of Hong Kong published a paper on Friday in The Lancet, a prestigious medical journal, estimating the rate at which the virus is spreading.

It used official data on the number of infections to calculate what it said was the true extent of the disease — almost 100 times the official figures.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/real-number-coronavirus-cases-more-045024008.html


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Haha, this confirms everyone's assumption that China's official numbers is 1/100 of the actual numbers.
 
IngaVovchanchyn said:
Pretty normal. Last year at Wal-Mart two people died in line ahead of me. A Haz Mat team showed up to inspect the body. The first had died from dehydration from being in line so long so they just left her there, but the second died of the common cold. As a precaution, they burnt the body on the spot and killed the people directly ahead of and behind the guy in the line and burned their bodies as well. The cashier too. Luckily, I had my groceries divided by one of those little plastic sticks on the conveyor belt, so everything was cool. The lady behind me was visibly shaken and I was like, 'Don't worry, it's just the cold going around.'
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Accroding to the stast 80,000 people died in 2018 just in the USA from normal influeza.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/26/health/flu-deaths-2017--2018-cdc-bn/index.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...cb43fc-c0ed-11e8-90c9-23f963eea204_story.html
 
LOL at Canada for not banning all flights coming from China like every other country did. Now there are cases of cronovirus in Canada from china. Why? Because there are more Chinese in Canada then anywhere else outside China and are taking over. Oh yeah and Trudeau is a radical leftist.
 
CauseImbetta said:
LOL at Canada for not banning all flights coming from China like every other country did. Now there are cases of cronovirus in Canada from china. Why? Because there are more Chinese in Canada then anywhere else outside China and are taking over. Oh yeah and Trudeau is a radical leftist.
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Provinces need more autonomy and control over their immigration like Quebec.

Fear mongering or the real deal?

 
CauseImbetta said:
LOL at Canada for not banning all flights coming from China like every other country did. Now there are cases of cronovirus in Canada from china. Why? Because there are more Chinese in Canada then anywhere else outside China and are taking over. Oh yeah and Trudeau is a radical leftist.
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Well, the west coast is fucked. Say bye to Hongcouver.
 
CauseImbetta said:
LOL at Canada for not banning all flights coming from China like every other country did. Now there are cases of cronovirus in Canada from china. Why? Because there are more Chinese in Canada then anywhere else outside China and are taking over. Oh yeah and Trudeau is a radical leftist.
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I have in-laws in Canada, and some relatives of in-laws in Vancouver. They say that the people they know are not going to Chinese groceries and restaurants.
 
good-faith poster said:
Next they're gonna tell us an organic form of anthrax has melded with the coronaids bird flu super virus and is appearing in peoples mailboxes

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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The novel Coronovirus can be passed on through touch. Wonder if the virus can survive on Iphones and all other mass consumer products we get from China??
 
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