Crime Video released of Ohio officers beating restrained inmate in jail after turning off body cameras

[Social Distance Warrior]

You arent the only one who deals with cops. I'm in the field and most are pieces of absolute shit. The job tends to do that to you

I have numerous "friends" who were great people before becoming cops and were fine people the first few years on the job. After 10-15 years the job gets to you

yea, no kidding...
our jobs (especially law enforcement in any large US City) will warp your and darken you...doesn't make you a "piece of shit."

similar to soldiers in battle who experience psychological trauma....I wouldn't consider them pieces of shit.

 

[zebby23]

If I think not too hard on the subject, I can think of a few scenarios where, if I had the chance to administer some self made justice based off of crimes the prick committed...ya. I think I could get to the point where I would do that and worse.

I'm not excusing it. But I can understand the human element that seems to constantly fail here. I don't think it's systemic racism and I don't think it's even systemic. I think that it would be REALLY hard to take daily attitude from a prisoner who did vile things to get into prison.

And for that I can at the very least, understand why it keeps happening.

Oh I agree with all of this but if you cannot do the job then you shouldn't become a cop or simply quit. If your job is getting the best of you then you should start looking for a new career. Never and i mean NEVER is it ok to do what this cop did even if you think it's justified by his crimes. That isn't what America is about

 

[bellend]

Ohio

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Despicable

On a kind of related note, these stories always make me wonder what more is going on. Like why would they do that, bedsides just being fucked up? I'm not saying that this is the case in this instance, but I wonder if cops ever play vigilante because they know something the guy did or something like that. Or maybe they're crooked cops roughing people up on behalf of someone with deep pockets.

Once again, not saying that happened in this instance. It just made me think about it

Prison guards don't really make a killing in the salary department and many prisons are underfunded and understaffed. I've known some prison guards who left the profession because dealing with criminals (many violent) in understaffed prisons for $40-$60k a year isn't worth it. Also my wife volunteers at a prison helping prisoners near release work on their resume and interview skills.

I know of one guard that got his face broken by an inmate. Protocol was for 2 officers to escort a prisoner, but they were understaffed so he was doing it solo. The dude flipped out and pummeled him (not sure the reason but if you're already doing life or the equivalent....) I also know of stories where female instructors have been left alone with prisoners and were sexually assaulted.

None of that is meant to excuse the abhorrent behavior of these officers but just showing there is a systematic problem with many prisons where you probably aren't hiring the best people to be prison guard and putting them under stress/duress and that's the kind of environment where this type of shit happens.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

If you’re a police officer and you turn your body camera off, or car cameras off you should be instantly terminated from duty.

That should be the law of the land.

what if you have to take a dump?

 

[Gregolian]

yea, no kidding...
our jobs (especially law enforcement in any large US City) will warp your and darken you...doesn't make you a "piece of shit."

similar to soldiers in battle who experience psychological trauma....I wouldn't consider them pieces of shit.

I know a dude in Tacoma PD that was a UC for awhile that upon promotion to a real cushy like HQ job REQUESTED going BACK to Narco work because he got bored behind a desk.

Prison guards don't really make a killing in the salary department and many prisons are underfunded and understaffed. I've known some prison guards who left the profession because dealing with criminals (many violent) in understaffed prisons for $40-$60k a year isn't worth it. Also my wife volunteers at a prison helping prisoners near release work on their resume and interview skills.

I know of one guard that got his face broken by an inmate. Protocol was for 2 officers to escort a prisoner, but they were understaffed so he was doing it solo. The dude flipped out and pummeled him (not sure the reason but if you're already doing life or the equivalent....) I also know of stories where female instructors have been left alone with prisoners and were sexually assaulted.

None of that is meant to excuse the abhorrent behavior of these officers but just showing there is a systematic problem with many prisons where you probably aren't hiring the best people to be prison guard and putting them under stress/duress and that's the kind of environment where this type of shit happens.

Friend that works for Utah DOC saw a prisoner stab a coworker. Coworker survived but I think that prisoner was not so politely forced to walk down stairs faster than his shackled feet could take him.

Not by my friend but we were in an Xbox party like 2 weeks after it happened and he was like "so, found out while I was at the DR today that XYZ Douche that stabbed Jerry took a tumble down some stairs"

That mentality freaks me out.

 

[zebby23]

yea, no kidding...
our jobs (especially law enforcement in any large US City) will warp your and darken you...doesn't make you a "piece of shit."

similar to soldiers in battle who experience psychological trauma....I wouldn't consider them pieces of shit.

Ok well I can agree with you on this... It makes you a piece of shit when you punch a restrained man in the face.

 

[nostradumbass]

Over a beating?

An overreaction to an overreaction...

Hopefully there's a bulk discount on ammunition if we're now publicly executing people for assault. That line is going to be pretty long. Sounds like Homer is a racist looking for an excuse to genocide young black men, since that would pretty much clear out 80% of black men, about half of whites and this country would be left with just Asians, Jews and a few honkies.

 

[zebby23]

If you got rid of all the cops and replaced them randomly with citizens, sameratio of male and female, the power happy violence would be way, way worse.

Cops are human, humans suck. Cops have at least been screened a bit. They are better than average people, as a whole.

I completely disagree with this... I actually believe the average citizen would do a much much better job. I blame the gang like culture police have. It's the us vs them mentality and that is always bad for the public

 

[milkmandanl]

Eight inmates died in jail in this county alone in 2018.



The reaction has been swift, with even the officers' own police union condemning the actions and supporting increased oversight, and the outrage considerable.

Execute those cowardly piece of shits poste haste

 

[zebby23]

what if you have to take a dump?

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

This is why when I see the headline, "police officer killed on duty" I have very little sympathy

This is why you will always be opposed and get no sympathy when Trump denies your EBT.

 

[freakroor]

what i wouldnt give for 5 minutes alone with cops like that... Unrestrained of course..

 

[MiniCraque]

I'm writhing? LOL. Look at those likes I'm racking up. I'm merely trying to get you back on topic, before your thread gets dumped.

Are you serious?

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

Ok well I can agree with you on this... It makes you a piece of shit when you punch a restrained man in the face.

this I can agree with as well. especially if he had mental health issues

 

[MFIC]

become a cops?

If you think you have it what it takes

There was a cop murdered here in St. Louis on Sunday. He was shot in the hood during a call for a guy trying to cash a bad check. People are saying he deserved to get shot because he was criminal for stealing overtime time pay lol Come to to find out, he wasn’t even stealing overtime pay. The overtime pay was for undercover work that the person in charge of payroll wasn’t aware of. These are the same losers that trashed Ferguson after Mike Brown got shot after robbing a convenience store & then assaulting a cop.

 

[zebby23]

this I can agree with as well. especially if he had mental health issues

Even worse. There are many things I despise and seeing cops abuse their power to such a degree is at the top of that list. I came in kinda hard in this thread but it's because I see this over and over and over and people just tend to gloss over it.

 

[zebby23]

If you think you have it what it takes

There was a cop murdered here in St. Louis on Sunday. He was shot in the hood during a call for a guy trying to cash a bad check. People are saying he deserved to get shot because he was criminal for stealing overtime time pay lol Come to to find out, he wasn’t even stealing overtime pay. The overtime pay was for undercover work that the person in charge of payroll wasn’t aware of. These are the same losers that trashed Ferguson after Mike Brown got shot after robbing a convenience store & then assaulting a cop.

How do you know I wasn't a LEO at some point in my life? I can tell you this, I had a career in law enforcement from the age of 21-26 and when I got married at 26 my wife did not want to be married to a cop. I now have a different career in the same field.

 

[Mcountry]

Oh I agree with all of this but if you cannot do the job then you shouldn't become a cop or simply quit. If your job is getting the best of you then you should start looking for a new career. Never and i mean NEVER is it ok to do what this cop did even if you think it's justified by his crimes. That isn't what America is about

Nope. But it is human. Which makes the job INCREDIBLY hard not to succumb to those emotions over what are society's piles of shit.

Like let's say you are in because you raped tortured and murdered a child. And then you start giving me attitude because you are a "tough guy"

I'm gonna get you behind closed doors and knock your shit in, and I won't lose a second of sleep over it.

Should I be a guard or a cop? Probably not. So for all those cops that don't have the same weakness I do, I salute. You are a stronger person than I am.

 

[Lubaolong]

I would bet this is very common. In some cities, police get hundreds of mental health calls a day, and many departments are ill equipped to respond and not interested in getting better mental health training. The city where I work gives zero fucks about collaborating with local mental health services to provide better care. I’ve seen several mentally ill patients on the receiving end of serious injuries (knocked out teeth, broken arms, torn shoulders, crushed hands) that seem very excessive.

 

[Gregolian]

I completely disagree with this... I actually believe the average citizen would do a much much better job. I blame the gang like culture police have. It's the us vs them mentality and that is always bad for the public

That mentality kind of HAS to exist in some areas though.

What's the average ratio of guards to prisoners in your standard DOC facility? Like 10 inmates to 1 guard almost? And then in places like say Pelican Bay or those other over crowded facilities it's probably closer to like 20-1?