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Law Utah Senator changes consent law after relative gets charged for having sex with a minor:

Yes, the one that fits the exact scenario you just mentioned. Do your mental gymnastics and explain how that is (D)ifferent.

They did not change consent laws. Only ADDED parameters to have more people register as sex offenders.

This law change was to alleviate maximum mandatory sentencing.

False equivalencies gonna false equivalency
 
I don't believe that "girls mature faster than boys."
That's just what creeps use to justify their thoughts and actions. Puberty hits a bit earlier in girls which is why sixth grade dances are funny to see with girls taller than boys in much higher numbers.

But

And it's a big but

Physical development is not why normal people don't creep on young girls, it's mental development.

We know this but we're not creeps.
 
These laws are weird.

I heard someone propose a 3 year spread rule starting at 13. Sounded reasonable.

I was banging at 15 and friends were doing it at 13-14. We know kids are fuckin. We just don't want em fuckin adults. A 13 and a 16 year old? Meh. A 15 and an 18 year old? Meh. An 18 and a 13 year old? Ughhhh... stretching it there. I don't feel like that's okay - but girls mature faster than boys.

But was it bad for me at 15 to bang an 18 year old? By the letter of the law in some states yeah maybe. No regerts.

But I remember a 13 year old girl suckin dicks at the back of the bus. And this was the 80's. No clue what the fuck is going on these days.

I’m sure there were younger people doing it too but so what?

What does your anecdotes of some doing certain actions justify any argument?

Having “no regrets” isn’t logical to justify laws or reason for moral situations

Also by all accounts the modern era is less sexual than the past.
 
Well, biology disagrees with you.

Be careful with your statement about "predatory language". Because insinuating someone is a :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile can get you carded.

Hate for some to report that.
It used to be enforced here pretty strictly, until it became popular to lob those accusations at everyone not on the extreme left. Now nothing is being done about it and even mods get to throw those vague accusations out there.
 
They did not change consent laws. Only ADDED parameters to have more people register as sex offenders.

This law change was to alleviate maximum mandatory sentencing.

False equivalencies gonna false equivalency
They changed it so judges have more discretionary power. This would reduce the amount of people added to the registery.

Hacks going to hack.
 
I’m sure there were younger people doing it too but so what?

What does your anecdotes of some doing certain actions justify any argument?

Having “no regrets” isn’t logical to justify laws or reason for moral situations

Also by all accounts the modern era is less sexual than the past.


I'm sorry High School was difficult for you.

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They changed it so judges have more discretionary power. This would reduce the amount of people added to the registery.

Hacks going to hack.

Nope. Judges ALWAYS had discretionary power. They just only had it for men who had vaginal sex with minors. It was amended to include anal and oral. It expanded the scope of mandatory sex offender registration as determined by judges.

Not sure who you think had that power beforehand. But it's an aspect of sentencing which is always at a judge's discretion.

Just take your "L" like a man and move on.
 
The usual suspects carrying water for a dude on their team who changed the law, to help out a relative, what makes it even more disgusting, is in this case an 18-year-old had sex with a 13-year-old.

I remember when people would condemn this sort of behavior by a politician, but everyone has been gas lighted by social media, there first reaction is to deflect, Dodge, dip, Duck and deflect. No wonder our politicians don't give a shit anymore, because nobody on their team will ever hold them accountable, because social media will do the work in spinning it for them. Back before the media became corporate owned, this would be a story, now only half the media will talk about it.

It could not be more apparent watching dudes who spent 4 years wanting the Epstein files released and when Trump told them to shut the fuck up about it, they decided to do a 180 on the Epstein files being released and saying there are more pressing issues. Too bad most people are too dumb or emotional to see the media manipulation.
 
Utah has been very shaky on age of consent and penalties for minor sex crimes for a long while. Even more than blue states with scores of with Soros DA’s and judges.

I’ve frequently complained about awful stories out of Utah with seemingly no real penalty. About a year or two ago they said they were going to stiffen the laws around this stuff after a real outrageous minor sex crime ended up with not even a slap on the wrist..and I don’t even think that person was connected. I can see not much came of it.
 
Weird.
I've never even come close to having sex with a 14 year old. Never accidently had sex with a 11 year old either.

Does this happen to you frequently?

Neither have I so we can conclude by your post your reading comprehension is shit.
 
Nope. Judges ALWAYS had discretionary power. They just only had it for men who had vaginal sex with minors. It was amended to include anal and oral. It expanded the scope of mandatory sex offender registration as determined by judges.

Not sure who you think had that power beforehand. But it's an aspect of sentencing which is always at a judge's discretion.

Just take your "L" like a man and move on.
It was always mandatory for the gays and judge discretion for normal sex. They changed it so it become discretionary for everyone. Therefore reducing the amount of people having to register.

Its hilarious you think I'm taking an "L" here.
 
He was a republican politician who used his authority to change a law so that somebody he knows gets in less trouble.

How is that not a party/political thing?
Trash republican for sure. There are others. Maybe even Trump himself.

To say all Republicans, is dishonest.

It's like saying all Democrats have sexual issues due to Bill Clinton or Biden & Ashley Biden.
 
Utah has been very shaky on age of consent and penalties for minor sex crimes for a long while. Even more than blue states with scores of with Soros DA’s and judges.

I’ve frequently complained about awful stories out of Utah with seemingly no real penalty. About a year or two ago they said they were going to stiffen the laws around this stuff after a real outrageous minor sex crime ended up with not even a slap on the wrist..and I don’t even think that person was connected. I can see not much came of it.
Mormons. Just another of the many weird ass religions with questionable ethics when it comes to sex.
 
"Utah Senate President J. Stuart Adams is facing questions over a legislative change that eased penalties in certain teenage sex cases while his relative was charged with first‑degree felonies for having sex with a 13‑year‑old, The Salt Lake Tribune reported. Adams acknowledged raising the issue but denied requesting or drafting the measure. “This case stemmed from a serious mistake, but I was surprised by the severity of the charges,” Adams said in a statement.

The law, passed as part of SB213 in 2024, allows prosecutors to file a third‑degree felony, rather than child rape, when an 18‑year‑old high school student has sex with a 13‑year‑old. While the change was not retroactive, prosecutors and defence attorney Cara Tangaro said in court it was pivotal to resolving the pending case through a plea deal."


F*ckin gross. Party of protecting child grapists.
- I dont get why people say that, sinsin. Just a coincidence!
 
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