Usman vs Paul Hughes, Who you got?

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Um this fight is like literally today and there's like zero discussion going on ANYWHERE, and it always looked to me Sherdog is on PFL's payroll or some shit so hopefully I can post it here.

You know, Paul Hughes is as legit as they come. I rate him higher than Ian Garry who I never much cared for. ( Yes, I am aware he had a good showing against Shavkat.)

And obviously, Usman can probably beat anybody at LW other than Islam.

I think Paul Hughes stacks up well against UFC top 10 as well. This fight is really, really good and doesn't seem to get the attention that it really deserves. One is undefeated, and the other has avenged his only loss, and really at their physical peaks.

In my opinion, this fight is probably the best fight PFL will be able to put together given who they have left on their roster. They are extremely top heavy, and I don't see any match up between two top young fighters like this in any of their divisions. PFL really shouldn't have signed Ngannou in my opinion who seems washed up and irrelevant, a deadly combination. It's looking like they signed a guy who isn't going to fight much, not doing jackshit like he pretended was for the fellow fighters, and they lost Kayla Harrison, a top WMMA fighter, and looking like they are going to lose Amosov, Aaron Pico and Nemkov. This might be THE fight for PFL regardless of how long they can stick around....

So, who you got, Usman or Paul Hughes?

I think Paul can beat Usman if Usman really looked past Paul Hughes like he's talking, but we all know fighters say whatever they want usually. If he took him seriously, you would have to favour Usman, but Paul Hughes is really, really good. But nobody knows if he can handle Khabib clan's grappling.

Usman is at least as good as Umar perhaps, but I rate Umar higher. He's more of a finisher too. He's at worst top 3 in the world, whereas I think Paul Hughes can be top 10 maybe, but not sure how high he can go. We, well me I guess, saw a lot more of Usman than Hughes, but this kid is legit and this is a hell of a fight. I feel like this would get talked about a hundred times more if this was on a UFC ppv, but PFL is a joke, so I understand that there's not much interest. But this is a great, great fight and it really sucks it's not really getting the attention it deserves, thus the thread.

I do think Hughes can win this one. I think Hughes is better on the feet whereas Usman likes to fight at range and set his takedowns up. This is one of those fights where if Hughes were to lose, he's a can, and if Usman loses, he got exposed. I think the truth is that both of these guys are best of the best who just wasn't signed by the UFC.

I think the line for me would be Usman -320 Hughes +250, whereas Usman opened at - 800 and hovering around - 650 right now. I guess people don't think he can handle Usman's grappling. Usman is a bigger guy too, not sure if he could ever make FW at any point like Hughes did.

I do think Hughes is good enough to pull it off though.
 
Seriously tough fight, especially for Usman. All the expectations are for an Usman victory but Hughes hits very hard, is very well conditioned and is fighting with very little pressure.

I think Usman is the quicker fighter, guy has the reflexes of a cat but Hughes carries more power and is fearless.

I think the clinch will determine how this goes. If Hughes stuffs the takedowns he could potentially win but if Usman gets his way, keeps it at range, pieces him up with his kicking game and can take him down then I think it's a long night for Hughes.

I rate both of these fighters alongside Shabliy higher than the UFC LWs outside of Islam, Arman and Charles.
 
Seriously tough fight, especially for Usman. All the expectations are for an Usman victory but Hughes hits very hard, is very well conditioned and is fighting with very little pressure.

I think Usman is the quicker fighter, guy has the reflexes of a cat but Hughes carries more power and is fearless.

I think the clinch will determine how this goes. If Hughes stuffs the takedowns he could potentially win but if Usman gets his way, keeps it at range, pieces him up with his kicking game and can take him down then I think it's a long night for Hughes.

I rate both of these fighters alongside Shabliy higher than the UFC LWs outside of Islam, Arman and Charles.

Shabily def deserves to be in the UFC. He probably beats most of them, but UFC is so choosey in who they sign. I don't think they like signing wrestlers or russians or Dagestanis as much anymore. I guess why they do that, but doesn't mean it's fair.

There was this russian Judo guy I wanted to see for a while, I always forget his name, but he never got signed by bellator, nor pfl, nor UFC. There's definitely some hesitency on their part I think.

To be frank, if you import like ten undefeated unranked Russian/Dagestan guys and pit them against top 10 in any division in UFC, who's to say UFC will come out on top lol.

Hughes is really good and got that dawg in him. Wouldn't surprise me if he won. Usman is at worst top 3 though. So gonna be a tough fight. They are really good fighters no matter what happens. Pity that people will talk shit on the lose and not give credit to the winner after.
 
Um this fight is like literally today and there's like zero discussion going on ANYWHERE, and it always looked to me Sherdog is on PFL's payroll or some shit so hopefully I can post it here.

You know, Paul Hughes is as legit as they come. I rate him higher than Ian Garry who I never much cared for. ( Yes, I am aware he had a good showing against Shavkat.)

And obviously, Usman can probably beat anybody at LW other than Islam.

I think Paul Hughes stacks up well against UFC top 10 as well. This fight is really, really good and doesn't seem to get the attention that it really deserves. One is undefeated, and the other has avenged his only loss, and really at their physical peaks.

In my opinion, this fight is probably the best fight PFL will be able to put together given who they have left on their roster. They are extremely top heavy, and I don't see any match up between two top young fighters like this in any of their divisions. PFL really shouldn't have signed Ngannou in my opinion who seems washed up and irrelevant, a deadly combination. It's looking like they signed a guy who isn't going to fight much, not doing jackshit like he pretended was for the fellow fighters, and they lost Kayla Harrison, a top WMMA fighter, and looking like they are going to lose Amosov, Aaron Pico and Nemkov. This might be THE fight for PFL regardless of how long they can stick around....

So, who you got, Usman or Paul Hughes?

I think Paul can beat Usman if Usman really looked past Paul Hughes like he's talking, but we all know fighters say whatever they want usually. If he took him seriously, you would have to favour Usman, but Paul Hughes is really, really good. But nobody knows if he can handle Khabib clan's grappling.

Usman is at least as good as Umar perhaps, but I rate Umar higher. He's more of a finisher too. He's at worst top 3 in the world, whereas I think Paul Hughes can be top 10 maybe, but not sure how high he can go. We, well me I guess, saw a lot more of Usman than Hughes, but this kid is legit and this is a hell of a fight. I feel like this would get talked about a hundred times more if this was on a UFC ppv, but PFL is a joke, so I understand that there's not much interest. But this is a great, great fight and it really sucks it's not really getting the attention it deserves, thus the thread.

I do think Hughes can win this one. I think Hughes is better on the feet whereas Usman likes to fight at range and set his takedowns up. This is one of those fights where if Hughes were to lose, he's a can, and if Usman loses, he got exposed. I think the truth is that both of these guys are best of the best who just wasn't signed by the UFC.

I think the line for me would be Usman -320 Hughes +250, whereas Usman opened at - 800 and hovering around - 650 right now. I guess people don't think he can handle Usman's grappling. Usman is a bigger guy too, not sure if he could ever make FW at any point like Hughes did.

I do think Hughes is good enough to pull it off though.

Paul can really sell a fight, got me interested but i don't think he will win at all
 
I see this as a squash fight. Any money on Hughes is wasted I will be rooting for Hughes tho just believe his chance is 0 as hes not that good imo. Usman might be better than Mak or on the way to being. Levels here

Not a squash fight. What O'Malley was getting were squash fights.

I'd say 7/3 for Usman.
 
Not a squash fight. What O'Malley was getting were squash fights.

I'd say 7/3 for Usman.
On paper is no where near a squash but imo it will look like one. Usman is better than Umar and I doubt Huges is even near Merabs level. I'm 100 rooting for Hughes here just don't see any path at all.
 
On paper is no where near a squash but imo it will look like one. Usman is better than Umar and I doubt Huges is even near Merabs level. I'm 100 rooting for Hughes here just don't see any path at all.

umar is better than usman tho. wdym no path at all, hughes just have to impose his game

he's no merab, but thats not the only way to win against khabib's crew.
 
umar is better than usman tho. wdym no path at all, hughes just have to impose his game

he's no merab, but thats not the only way to win against khabib's crew.
Hope you right as I want Hughes but by my eye test it's not close.

I do not believe Umar is better I honestly think Usman will eventually be better than Mak imo he's that good . But I been wrong before lol..
 
Hope you right as I want Hughes but by my eye test it's not close.

I do not believe Umar is better I honestly think Usman will eventually be better than Mak imo he's that good . But I been wrong before lol..

I think Usman is the cleanest out of them all. He's more like what's the Abraham Lincoln dude, but better cardio.

Hughes will make it close. But then again, we need to see more from him grappling. But I think so. Problem is Usman is longer, bigger, and clearly a better grappler.

But it's MMA. And by that I don't mean i'm talking about a fluke ko either.
 
Usman by good old fashioned 50-45 is my pick but Ill be gladly proven wrong.
 
Javier Mendez said Usman is the best guy he's ever trained, Khabib said Usman will retire as a top 5 all time great fighter. It's clear the dagestani camp rate this guy very highly, even higher than Umar. Some of his fights weren't the most exciting but it's clear he's elite in every aspect of mma and hard to hit, I expect him to dominate paul over 5 rounds or finish him
 
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