USADA exposed for allowing athletes to cheat in secret.

[JBJ was here]

Nobody cares about drug testing unless it benefits their narratives.

Very much this. For those of us who can remember back that far: there's not a single MLB fan who really cared about steroids in the summer of 1998 when all the big stars were quite obviously using, but the hate Bonds, McGuire, Sosa, and so forth got after positive tests started coming back and the narrative changed from "how wonderful it is to save baseball after the 1994/95 strike" to "dirty, dirty cheaters" was and is astronomical. Hating steroids became convenient and a popular press narrative only after steroids saved baseball; while steroids were busy saving baseball no one cared at all.

 

[Taric]

And Aldo should've been failed procedurally about a dozen times here, regardless of if his sample collected 3 DAYS after it was supposed to be collected, by a Brazilian fanboy who wanted his autograph and photo instead of the NSAC rep sent to test him, passed but was still allowed to fight:

Report: Brazilian commission sample collector asked Jose Aldo for autograph, picture

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Nobody cares about drug testing unless it benefits their narratives.

Again, the Brock case is literally an entire organization deciding to be corrupt and withhold their findings of their own failed drug test on behalf of the UFC. Your example is a single individual working for a 3rd party organization maybe being corrupt. That individual had nothing to do with USADA nor the UFC.

I know you can see the difference and why I bring up the Brock case as the definition of pure and unadulterated corruption... the organization of USADA literally had a known failed drug test in their possession and decided to ignore the results they themselves produced until after the fight. It is the only time something like that has unequivocally been proven to happen in the history of the UFC.

 

[markg171]

Again, the Brock case is literally an entire organization deciding to be corrupt and withhold their findings of their own failed drug test on behalf of the UFC. Your example is a single individual working for a 3rd party the organization maybe being corrupt. That individual had nothing to do with USADA nor the UFC.

I know you can see the difference and why I bring up the Brock case as the definition of pure and unadulterated corruption... the organization of USADA literally had a known failed drug test in their possession and decided to ignore the results they themselves produced until after the fight. It is the only time something like that has unequivocally been proven to happen in the history of the UFC.

Aldo disappeared for 3 days, repeatedly fucked up his tests to be unuseable when they did coral him to show up for it, and then only would agree to submit his egregiously late sample to a fellow Brazilian who wanted his autograph and photo afterwards instead of the NSAC employee, who then told NSAC afterwards the sample would randomly be shipped late to America for its testing.

It's a far worse scandal than Brock's as they didn't even need to wait for testing results to have failed him. He should've been failed the moment nobody could find him June 10th when they tried to randomly test him. Let alone everything afterwards. Brock was at least tested as normal and there is SOME dispute about how long it might've taken for the lab to test his sample and determine it failed.

And that's even before we discuss how Aldo also somehow fought Martinez on 2 months notice this very year when as a retired athlete he needed 6 months of testing before returning. Nobody announced he got an exemption so how'd he fight without one? Where's the outrage there?

Nobody actually gives a fuck about testing unless it suits their narratives. Stop pretending otherwise.

 

[IsNormal]

Was this a secret though? I thought this was out in the open

Is this a secret?

We kinda knew USADA did shady shit, what we didn't exactly know there was concrete proof - and what WADA thought about it.

The interesting thing this article reveals is: USADA has admitted to WADA specifically which violations they did. And WADA was pissed.

 

[acannxr]

Again, the Brock case is literally an entire organization deciding to be corrupt and withhold their findings of their own failed drug test on behalf of the UFC. Your example is a single individual working for a 3rd party organization maybe being corrupt. That individual had nothing to do with USADA nor the UFC.

I know you can see the difference and why I bring up the Brock case as the definition of pure and unadulterated corruption... the organization of USADA literally had a known failed drug test in their possession and decided to ignore the results they themselves produced until after the fight. It is the only time something like that has unequivocally been proven to happen in the history of the UFC.

The UFC also tried covering up Belfort having elevated testosterone levels.

411MANIA | Vitor Belfort Reportedly Tested Positive For Elevated Testosterone Before UFC 152

He fought anyway...

411mania.com

 

[Eater of Souls]

I mean this was obvious, right?

How did it take WADA years to realize this when we knew it since it first happened? Willful ignorance is the only answer, which actually makes WADA just as complicit as USADA

Of course. For enough money WADA has looked the other way over a bunch of shady shit. And not just from the USA.

 

[Mammothman]

Inb4 Jon Jones secret suspension that Sherdoggers claim it happened will be exposed.

 

[ssBaldy]

Ready to drop some of holier than thou attitude regarding organised doping, my American friends?

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Inb4 Jon Jones secret suspension that Sherdoggers claim it happened will be exposed.

Butbutbut a third violation would be a lifetime ban

 

[evergreenrider]

He didn't give them anything.

I think Jones is one of the cases here because WADA has procedures for this, and it's only supposed to be if the person actually provides information of significance - Jones didn't provide any information at all, so reducing his 4 year ban to 1 year was absurd and broke the rules. And it was very public and very obvious - if Jones isn't one of the cases referenced here, then WADA is even more clueless than they already appear.

At some point we have to admit that being this clueless is only possible if it's intentional.

I thought multiple fighters from one gym got popped shortly after this and speculation was the information Jones supplied caused it. Could be totally wrong though.

 

[Nobru]

Let them juice
This aint a sport anyways, its a show
Make it better

 

[dog y]

that's not even how it works though. Paulo Costa was the most tested fighter in 2023, he has never tested positive for anything ever, and he didn't even fight in 2023.

Was he protected and free to juice by the UFC, or did he bribe the officials/testers/whatever they're called?

 

[MPD-Psycho]

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[Aurelian]

Just let everybody use whatever they want. Better fights, better training, better recovery, ability to fight more often, everything is better except some pussies who cry "this is not fair!!"

 

[pamirec]

No shit that usada was/is corrupt. The biggest running joke is thinking that era means more than the ones prior due to "drug testing"....

People actually out there thinking if you don't get caught by USADA, it must mean you're competing clean....lol

USADA is a joke, but I think most of the fighters couldn’t cheat the way they used to. They had to get off teh juice, hence the sudden decline. Some got smarter and some are just privileged.

 

[volodya]

Lol didn't nick diaz and ubereem have a NSAC hearing on the same day years back? Iirc they gave Nick some huge suspension for weed and then appeared to want to suck Ubereems dick because of biseps

 

[maximus__]

Aldo disappeared for 3 days, repeatedly fucked up his tests to be unuseable when they did coral him to show up for it, and then only would agree to submit his egregiously late sample to a fellow Brazilian who wanted his autograph and photo afterwards instead of the NSAC employee, who then told NSAC afterwards the sample would randomly be shipped late to America for its testing.

It's a far worse scandal than Brock's as they didn't even need to wait for testing results to have failed him. He should've been failed the moment nobody could find him June 10th when they tried to randomly test him. Let alone everything afterwards. Brock was at least tested as normal and there is SOME dispute about how long it might've taken for the lab to test his sample and determine it failed.

And that's even before we discuss how Aldo also somehow fought Martinez on 2 months notice this very year when as a retired athlete he needed 6 months of testing before returning. Nobody announced he got an exemption so how'd he fight without one? Where's the outrage there?

Nobody actually gives a fuck about testing unless it suits their narratives. Stop pretending otherwise.

If you remain in the testing pool then you don;t have to wait 6 months.

UFC 189 drug tests come back clean, bizarre Jose Aldo incident detailed

A total of seven fighters were drug tested in connection with this past month's UFC 189. All passed, although there were complications – already well-publicized – in one fighter's case. The Nevada State Athletic Commission today released testing…

mmajunkie.usatoday.com

Drug free sport were contracted to do the testing which is interesting.

 

[CroCopsLHK]

What type of horse shit is that. Treating anti doping in sports like the goddamn justice system. You can compete if you snitch out more people

Sure you may yield more "catches" but you are permitting high level fighters to stay on top. Just wow

 

[anuscakes]

I'm not sure how they were before the UFC deal, but USADA is a completely corrupt organization who ruined their credibility working with the ufc.

 

[chinarice]

Very much this. For those of us who can remember back that far: there's not a single MLB fan who really cared about steroids in the summer of 1998 when all the big stars were quite obviously using, but the hate Bonds, McGuire, Sosa, and so forth got after positive tests started coming back and the narrative changed from "how wonderful it is to save baseball after the 1994/95 strike" to "dirty, dirty cheaters" was and is astronomical. Hating steroids became convenient and a popular press narrative only after steroids saved baseball; while steroids were busy saving baseball no one cared at all.

Baseball fans are stupid. I am one and try to constantly explain to the naive dumbass fans of the MLB world that steroids / PEDs existed in MLB prior to the late 90s and exist in 2024.