USADA exposed for allowing athletes to cheat in secret.

[M4rk]

Say it isn't so?

 

[joy2day]

Yeah, there was corruption within that organization apparently.

But I guarantee there wasn't nearly as much corruption as there is for the organization that runs the testing system now for the UFC (themselves).

I wish I was in charge of the system that would investigate me for wrongdoing. I could get away with so much.

 

[DOMMA]

How about testing the guys from Russia, definitely sus

 

[Captain Herb]

I mean this was obvious, right?

How did it take WADA years to realize this when we knew it since it first happened? Willful ignorance is the only answer, which actually makes WADA just as complicit as USADA

I think Jones is not the case they're talking about because he wasn't allowed to continue fighting when he faced the 4 year ban. They just chopped off 3 years and he was back the next year. Still absolute complete bullshit though, I mean who did Jones turn in that was worth 3 years of suspension, anyone?

 

[HHJ]

we need Mark Hunt's reaction to this

 

[Belaya Smert]

Victor Conte was right. Specifically about the track athletes all being juiced.

 

[Belaya Smert]

we need Mark Hunt's reaction to this

*Loses his car keys and screams into the microwave.

 

[HHJ]

*Loses his car keys and screams into the microwave.

I wouldnt mind seeing that too

 

[Poirierfan]

The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) responds to a Reuters story of 7 August 2024 exposing a scheme whereby the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) allowed athletes who had doped, to compete for years, in at least one case without ever publishing or sanctioning their anti-doping rule violations, in direct contravention of the World Anti-Doping Code and USADA’s own rules.

Contrary to the claims made by USADA, WADA did not sign off on this practice of permitting drug cheats to compete for years on the promise that they would try to obtain incriminating evidence against others.

Within the Code there is a provision whereby an athlete who provides substantial assistance can subsequently apply to have a proportion of their period of ineligibility suspended. However, there is a clear process for that, which does not involve allowing those who have cheated to continue to compete while they may or may not gather incriminating evidence against others and while they could retain a performance-enhancement effect from the substances they took. When WADA eventually found out about this non-compliant practice in 2021, many years after it had started, it immediately instructed USADA to desist.

WADA is now aware of at least three cases where athletes who had committed serious anti-doping rule violations were allowed to continue to compete for years while they acted as undercover agents for USADA, without it notifying WADA and without there being any provision allowing such a practice under the Code or USADA’s own rules.

WADA statement on Reuters story exposing USADA scheme in contravention of World Anti-Doping Code

The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) responds to a Reuters story of 7 August 2024 exposing a scheme whereby the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) allowed athletes who had doped, to compete for years, in at least one case without ever publishing or sanctioning their anti-doping rule violations, in...

www.wada-ama.org

Well no shit Sherlock. The UFC was paying USADA, they were essentially USADA's boss. I don't have to read all that to know that the whole thing was bullshit.

 

[HavokHarmon]

Fighter: Oh hey Jon, good to see you back at the gym. Heard you might have gotten suspended for a while, what’s up with that?

Jon Jones: Oh, no, that was all a big misunderstanding. Say, now that I’m back why don’t you fill me in on all the illegal activities you’ve been up to.

Fighter: Well with you gone it’s actually been pretty smooth, it was pretty much just you doing all that stuff.

Jon Jones: *discreetly into his collar Abort, abort

 

[mjoln]

They wanted cannon fodder to be clean when they fight important fighters. Its more corrupted than test free scene.

 

[joy2day]

we need Mark Hunt's reaction to this

 

[markg171]

No shit that usada was/is corrupt. The biggest running joke is thinking that era means more than the ones prior due to "drug testing"....

People actually out there thinking if you don't get caught by USADA, it must mean you're competing clean....lol

I think the bigger issue was people thinking it was the end of the world when the UFC switched to Drug Free Sport. The UFC, and plenty of fighters and others, outlined many issues with USADA and instead of listening to their complaints people said USADA was untouchable instead.

It's a lot easier to understand that absolutely nobody actually believes any of the testing is legit without people being able to see the lab results ourselves to verify if everything was above board when we're told someone passed/failed.

 

[MMAProfessional]

Was this a secret though? I thought this was out in the open

I remember Matt Brown saying he doesn't mind USADA because they test him like 2 times a year. It's odd how they test some 100 times in a year then others 2 times. I get if you have a violation but I'd imaging you could cheat if you're only tests 2x (not saying Brown is on anything.)

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

Yeah, there was corruption within that organization apparently.

But I guarantee there wasn't nearly as much corruption as there is for the organization that runs the testing system now for the UFC (themselves).

I wish I was in charge of the system that would investigate me for wrongdoing. I could get away with so much.

it's basically the same. the UFC was paying USADA, at any time they could've cut them off like they did. that's why that Jeff Newinski guy was so buddy buddy with Dana. if the guy who is supposed to be keeping you honest is over here taking pictures with you and hugging you and shit, you know it's not a real authority.

 

[joy2day]

It's odd how they test some 100 times in a year then others 2 times.

Whether or not it is fairly applied is another issue entirely, but there is a good rational for that.

If someone is under a cloud of suspicion from something the testers have discovered, they get tested more, which makes sense.

 

[markys00]

Can someone explain what the new info was? That WADA didnt know? I mean, this was publicly known..

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

Whether or not it is fairly applied is another issue entirely, but there is a good rational for that.

If someone is under a cloud of suspicion from something the testers have discovered, they get tested more, which makes sense.

that's not even how it works though. Paulo Costa was the most tested fighter in 2023, he has never tested positive for anything ever, and he didn't even fight in 2023.

 

[markys00]

Yeah, there was corruption within that organization apparently.

But I guarantee there wasn't nearly as much corruption as there is for the organization that runs the testing system now for the UFC (themselves).

I wish I was in charge of the system that would investigate me for wrongdoing. I could get away with so much.

Uhhhhhhhhhhh.... What? They're using the same company WWE uses. That should tell us a whole lot without even knowing any other information

 

[joy2day]

it's basically the same. the UFC was paying USADA, at any time they could've cut them off like they did. that's why that Jeff Newinski guy was so buddy buddy with Dana. if the guy who is supposed to be keeping you honest is over here taking pictures with you and hugging you and shit, you know it's not a real authority.

You mean it is the same now as it was under USADA? I don't see it that way. Big players in the game were busted during and even before USADA. I don't think big players in the game will get busted now. They will selectively bust a few low-level guys here and there as sacrificial lambs, everyone else gets a pass.

Not saying USADA was entirely honest, just that they are better than what is happening now (or NOT happening).