US Police killed more people in March than UK Police since 1900

[Veiled Threat]

I'm Canadian.

I said this before, i was recently in Nevada and California. Your country is FILLED with obese/unhealthy people.

The number of homeless people is also a disgrace.

Your country is shit. You have a good military (which is great) and good athletes. Every other important issue you're lagging.

cliffs: only like nba star muscles

 

[Serana]

Wow, we're better than the Nazis. Good point.

We don't need improvement, anybody! We're doing better than the actual nazis!



... Would

Would what? Flee, I hope...

 

[Mr. Fresca]

the vast majority of police instantly make situations hostile

You must get around a lot to experience the vast majority of police in the US

 

[Mr. Fresca]

I'm Canadian.

I said this before, i was recently in Nevada and California. Your country is FILLED with obese/unhealthy people.

The number of homeless people is also a disgrace.

Your country is shit. You have a good military (which is great) and good athletes. Every other important issue you're lagging.

You must be an expert on America now that you've visited a handful of cities out west.

Yes it's so horrible here that we can't stop people from pouring in from around the globe.

 

[Nimrod]

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/1374908

Now even if singular data points may be debated, this is one insane observation.

If you try to defend this, you have got to be insane or delusional.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Crazy statistic that you can't just ignore because the US is bigger than the UK.
We're comparing 1 month to 115 years (1380 months). That is insane.

 

[jimbob27]

I find it funny how we have People from places like the UK bragging about their society not having firearms while their nation still has a legally protected nobility that own firearms at a vastly greater rate the general population with little to no real regulation or enforcement. To top it off they are allowed go out hunting, and fishing on the queen's land in the 21st century while the lower classes would be tried and convicted under 12th century laws if their were caught taking a deer on royal land.

Hell i know a 20 year vet who served in the Royal Marines, and the SAS who moved from the UK to Canada because after he got after the service we wasn't allowed to do simple things like hunt or fish in his home country.

At least Germany and France got rid of their aristocracies albeit it after the losses of millions of innocent lives.

Your friend is full of shit. Anyone can go fishing in the UK, and there's plenty of places you can go to shoot deer, birds or clay targets. Pretty much anyone can get their hands on firearms in the UK if they're using them for sport, or have enough land to need it for pest control. It's owning guns specifically for killing people that's not allowed.

 

[RerouteToRemain]

I'm Canadian.

I said this before, i was recently in Nevada and California. Your country is FILLED with obese/unhealthy people.

The number of homeless people is also a disgrace.

Your country is shit. You have a good military (which is great) and good athletes. Every other important issue you're lagging.

Lol those two states almost double your entire countries population. So you went to 2 states out of 50 and think that you have a valid opinion on the country... I know many Canadians that come here in the winter and love it.

Homelessness in many places here is a lifestyle choice here. People that want off the streets can do so, there are programs and sponsors that help the people that truly want to help themselves.

 

[RerouteToRemain]

Wow, we're better than the Nazis. Good point.

We don't need improvement, anybody! We're doing better than the actual nazis!



... Would

Hmm I thought there was something else I wrote in that post. Ahh yes, it was "In all seriousness".

 

[Stoic1]

The UK also has like 4x the amount of violent crime than the US. Not sure how that correlates to the topic but it is an interesting number to think about.

 

[jimbob27]

The UK also has like 4x the amount of violent crime than the US. Not sure how that correlates to the topic but it is an interesting number to think about.

You're not stupid enough to actually believe that "statistic" are you?

 

[lfd0311]

England also doesn't have the massive inner city gang and violence problems or the glorification of violence and criminality that the US does....

 

[bref]

I'm Canadian.

I said this before, i was recently in Nevada and California. Your country is FILLED with obese/unhealthy people.

The number of homeless people is also a disgrace.

Your country is shit. You have a good military (which is great) and good athletes. Every other important issue you're lagging.

Well, now you're just being a dick. Canada and the US have very similar rates of homelessness. I think Canada might even have a higher rate. Have you ever been downtown in Vancouver, Montreal, Calgary, Edmonton or Toronto?

 

[Dolomite]

Has this been brought up already? Probably not.

How many US police officers have been killed in the line of duty since 1900?
How many British police officers have been killed in the line of duty since 1800?

Yeah. And I agree with the OP's sentiment - Shit has got to change.

 

[Phelly2]

Oh yeah, the cops are forced to chase. Courts have said cops don't have to protect you. Have they said that a cop must pursue a fleeing suspect? It seems to me more like something the police want to do (drive fast and take down the motherfuckers not respecting authoritah!) rather than something they have to do. Hard to imagine the courts saying cops have to put everyone on the road's lives in danger with their speeding (and of course "making" the fleeing suspect drive recklessly due to being pursued).

Are you saying cops should not chase criminals if they run away?

 

[Phelly2]

Has this been brought up already? Probably not.

How many US police officers have been killed in the line of duty since 1900?
How many British police officers have been killed in the line of duty since 1800?

Yeah. And I agree with the OP's sentiment - Shit has got to change.

Just a rough peak at the numbers and I'd say about an average of 3 UK police die every year, while the US averages about 150. Quite a different environment, I'd say.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Are you saying cops should not chase criminals if they run away?

I can see how you'd like to distill it down to something that inane, because it's an easy argument to win. Instead though I said that cops make the optional decision to engage in a high speed chase, and if they do so in such a reckless fashion that they kill themselves with their own driving then that result is not the fault of the person they are pursuing. That falls on the cop. So those deaths don't belong in the statistical category of killed by criminals. If the category is deaths on the job then it would. The discussion was about the dangers cops face here from criminals in terms of violent threats and I said cops dying from their driving choices shouldn't go into the numbers.

 

[jimbob27]

Are you saying cops should not chase criminals if they run away?

Lots of police and innocent bystanders die every year due to police chases, and it's the police force's responsibility to minimize this.

Obviously if they encounter a dangerous criminal they gotta chase him down, but escalating a traffic violation into a scenario that's potentially deadly for the general public isn't the best way to go about protecting them.

 

[Dolomite]

So, its the police who are escalating traffic violations into deadly scenarios?

And how will the cops know if they are pulling over a regular citizen or a dangerous criminal?

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

And how will the cops know if they are pulling over a regular citizen or a dangerous criminal?

The dangerous criminals wear their bandannas on the right leg, just above the knee. The other 99.99% of us wear them on the left leg, just below the knee.