US Government Shutdown

[zebby23]

OK. That's good. The shutdown will still likely cost money if it happens, but not as much as past ones on a per-day basis.

Right. They are trying to soften the blow but you are correct that it will certainly cost $$

 

[luckyshot]

And today's Sherfront post of the day winner:

I've got hundreds of years claim to this fine land and it's values and culture.

You are hundreds of years old? You has teh tRump genes?

I've got hundreds of years claim to this fine land.

Tell me more...

I've got hundreds of years claim to this fine land and it's values and culture. These people who were abandoned by their parents and adopted by the Tamminy Hall democratic machine do not get to wave their finger at me about who is and is not American.

Well, since you want to frame the conversation in terms of "hundreds of years," some of "these people" may have a legitimate gripe against this "fair land and fine culture"

This is our place. They can fuck off back to their corruptistan where the rule of law is a joke. Because here it is a foundational value. You can fuck off there too.

Holy "Blood and soil" Batman

Hey, ezshrimpdick, which one is you?

Nothing so clearly defines an ethnonationalist as the attempt to simultaneously own and ignore history.

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

You are wrong about everything in this post.

So according to you, resources aren't finite?


Another "L" for Irrational Poster.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

As long as my stocks keep going up......

 

[zebby23]

As long as my stocks keep going up......

Thanks Obama

 

[Rational Poster]

So according to you, resources aren't finite?


Another "L" for Irrational Poster.

In pratical terms, in our lifetime, while the stock market is higher than ever before, no.

Resources are not very limited right now, we live in abundance.

 

[trident]

It was, thats why republicans couldnt repeal even with full control of government.

That was Bob Doles plan left in the oven a bit longer. It was a give away to the insurance companies and a failure in Democratic leadership.

 

[The Diplomat]

So according to you, resources aren't finite?


Another "L" for Irrational Poster.

Are you pro-choice?

 

[Jack V Savage]

I'm starting to legitimately lose hope for my country. The level of delusion the right has created over the last 40 years is starting to come to a head. I fear a Christian Theocratic regime coming.

I'm long-term optimistic. In the short term, things could get worse. Good piece on why, IMO:

http://lesswrong.com/lw/lr/evaporative_cooling_of_group_beliefs/

Not discussing the same issue, but I think it's the same effect.

 

[Jack V Savage]

And today's Sherfront post of the day winner:

You are hundreds of years old? You has teh tRump genes?

Tell me more...

Well, since you want to frame the conversation in terms of hundreds of years, some of "these people" may have a legitimate gripe against this "fair land and fine culture"

Holy "Blood and soil" Batman

Hey, ts, which one are you?

Nothing so defines an ethnonationalist as the attempt to simultaneously claim and ignore history.

It's interesting that that whipped-back picture is from *before* BLM and Obama invented racism. I'm beginning to suspect that there's more to American history than the WR right has led me to believe.

 

[Rational Poster]

A photo of @EZShrimpn

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

In pratical terms, in our lifetime, while the stock market is higher than ever before, no.

Resources are not very limited right now, we live in abundance.

Abundance =/= infinite

You do understand what finite means, correct?

 

[HomerThompson]

I'm long-term optimistic. In the short term, things could get worse. Good piece on why, IMO:

http://lesswrong.com/lw/lr/evaporative_cooling_of_group_beliefs/

Not discussing the same issue, but I think it's the same effect.

That was a terrific read. Is that a good blog, in general?

 

[Jack V Savage]

That was a terrific read. Is that a good blog, in general?

Yes. I find some of it boring and usually read it when someone links me to something rather than following it myself, but that happens a bit, and a lot of it is really good (BTW, note that that piece was very old and the address has changed).

 

[Rational Poster]

Abundance =/= infinite

You do understand what finite means, correct?

I know exactly what it means. You're just playing semantics.

 

[Toothless King]

yup, both democrats and republicans

grant legal residence to dreamers, secure the border, and prevent dreamers from petition their parents. I think that's a fair compromise.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

Gov shutdowns only help with GOP fundraising.

The Democrats ALWAYS blink first on these negotiations. They have to. If you take away trial lawyers, immigrants form more socialist Nations, public sector unions, and everyone else directly bribed by the Democratic Party, you don't have a functioning party anymore. The vast majority of the democratic party's voting base relies on government largesse in one form or another. This is why the Democrats always concede government shutdown negotiations. The Democratic base needs the flow of government money to be steady and forever increasing. Any Interruption of government largesse could be catastrophic for them.

The last government shutdown resulted in huge majorities for the Republican Party. The Republican base believes in smaller government. The voting base, and the donor class sees this as a net positive. It proves the idea that we really don't need all of the government that we currently have.

 

[bobgeese]

Exactly let it shut down. MAKE the republicans actually compromise and allow the Dems to at least get a little of what they want. Republicans need Democrats but refuse to compromise because they don't know how to govern. SHUT IT DOWN!!

I’m totally fine with compromise.

 

[HomerThompson]

grant legal residence to dreamers, secure the border, and prevent dreamers from petition their parents. I think that's a fair compromise.

Dreamers' parents should come too. Citizenship path for Dreamers and their parents. E-verify for all hiring in the US. That's the simple, quick bill to me.

 

[Orgasmo]

Dreamers' parents should come too. Citizenship path for Dreamers and their parents. E-verify for all hiring in the US. That's the simple, quick bill to me.

No their parents came to US illegally, and should bear the consequences instead of being rewarded with citizenships.

Deportation for parents, path to green card for dreamers