Urine Trouble (Mueller Thread v. 16)

[bobgeese]

Once again why is everyone lying about that meeting.
Rank amateur does not make you a liar. Trying to hide something makes you a liar.
Da Kush has not been charged yet, but he has other stuff to deal with, like trying to cover that billion dollar loan, that made him way over leveraged.
Rumors are Fredo and Da Kush are next on the indictment train. They can try to use the rank amateur defense, when fighting these charges.
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§ 1001. Statements or entries generally





(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully-





(1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact;





(2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or





(3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry;





shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.





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(c) With respect to any matter within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch, subsection (a) shall apply only to-





(1) administrative matters, including a claim for payment, a matter related to the procurement of property or services, personnel or employment practices, or support services, or a document required by law, rule, or regulation to be submitted to the Congress or any office or officer within the legislative branch; or





(2) any investigation or review, conducted pursuant to the authority of any committee, subcommittee, commission or office of the Congress, consistent with applicable rules of the House or Senate.

“Rumors”





Get back to me when charges are filed.

 

[bobgeese]

You can go back in my post history. I knew Manafort was dirty before anyone around here was bringing him up.
I did not think he was that bad of a hire, Trump, was the outsider and sometimes you have to take risks when you are the outsider, plus the system did not want to work with Trump.
Manafort worked for Marcos of the Phillipines and when Marcos was ousted, Manafort took his services to some two bit dictators in Africa then went to Eastern Europe.
How did I know that and I post on a karate forum and a guy running for the President of the United States did not?

I believe you.

I can also guarantee you right now, today, Trump still can’t tell you what he did wrong.

 

[Quequeg]

“Rumors”





Get back to me when charges are filed.

Narrative change. You do this in every thread, after being decisively proven wrong you retreat to "any charges yet", you do realize the investigation is still ongoing? The fact there are no charges yet, means nothing.

 

[Ophydian]

You do realize the IG was just appointed to look into this, right?


You also realize this was made public by the media right? Trump had nothing to do with it being made public.


Furthermore, the nyt yesterday reported him as a long time cia asset. 20+ years ago they reported him as a spy.

IG was just appointed yet you’ve already issued your findings and everyone is guilty? Jumping the gun a little?

And I’ve answered your questions but you’ve not answered mine. How is it so easy for you to come to the conclusion about FBI/CIA “spying” based on unverified reports but you can’t make the less difficult logical leap of faith connecting all of the shady shit going on with the Trump campaign and Russia? I’ll answer it for you, you have too much invested in being wrong that you are blind to the truth.

 

[cincymma79]

Why do you guys keep talking about collusion as if it is a crime? Don't you get that it's a catch all term, and not a criminal offense by now? It's been over a year......

Oh I get that collusion never happened and you guys are desperately jumping to anything resembling a potato chance of being it. Absolutely got it. The whole reason this start d was collusion and homer in particular recently revived that retarded narrative. So you can’t say this is collusion, then be wrong for a year, and try to say it’s not collusion and you never said that when that was the title of at least a few of these threads of which we’re on our way to 20 versions of and still not it

 

[bobgeese]

Narrative change. You do this in every thread, after being decisively proven wrong you retreat to "any charges yet", you do realize the investigation is still ongoing? The fact there are no charges yet, means nothing.

My narrative hasn’t budged an inch.

I haven’t been proven wrong about anything. I’m the only one here posting actual facts, with sources. You’re posting about rumers which you said yourself to take with a grain of salt.

Trump will face no charges.

 

[cincymma79]

lmfao!

I nominate this for post of the year.

As a politics watcher, I literally read all those articles and watched the final video at the times they came out. But I never saw all of the headlines and that final photo all laid out that way for easy summary. Brilliant!

Nate "pasty vampire" Silver is vastly overrated. Just ask @m52nickerson.

 

[waiguoren]

I loved this so much that I actually found the full length video in some dark corner of the interwebs. Like Dailymotion or something. 4 hours of nonsense but oh so much fun.

 

[bobgeese]

IG was just appointed yet you’ve already issued your findings and everyone is guilty? Jumping the gun a little?

And I’ve answered your questions but you’ve not answered mine. How is it so easy for you to come to the conclusion about FBI/CIA “spying” based on unverified reports but you can’t make the less difficult logical leap of faith connecting all of the shady shit going on with the Trump campaign and Russia? I’ll answer it for you, you have too much invested in being wrong that you are blind to the truth.

There’s a very simple answer to that. WAY back in early 16, it was revealed by Wikileaks that democrats were plotting behind the scenes to damage trump by attempting to portray him as too close to Putin. That’s what you’re were witnessing. However now, they’re claiming they were protecting Trump. That is the biggest narrative shift over a weekend I’ve ever observed and should raise all kinds of red flags for anyone paying attention.

Do you mean the “unverified” reports that state the guy with a history of spying on presidential campaigns (reported by the nyt and WP 30 years ago) has been caught spying on the trump campaign before the date which the fbi claims they started the investigation?

You do understand that the fbi has run to the nyt and WP to try to get out in front of this story after the WSJ article about a spy in the Trump campaign?

If you’re any kind of astute observer of politics, you have to realize there has been a MASSIVE narrative shift in the last 72 hours. Do you think that’s normal? It’s not.




Let me ask everyone reading.



Why is it that in the last 72 hours, the narrative changed to “we were protecting Trump”?

 

[waiguoren]

Why is it that in the last 72 hours, the narrative changed to “we were protecting Trump”?

Is anyone saying this other than that Washington Post opinion columnist?

 

[bobgeese]

Is anyone saying this other than that Washington Post opinion columnist?

Looking for a few examples, here’s one.

JAMES CLAPPER: Well, I think it's -- this is hyperbole. Hyperbole. They may have had someone who was talking to them in, uh, in the campaign, but, you know, the focus here, and as it was with the intelligence community is not on the campaign, per se, but what the Russians were doing to try to instantiate themselves in the campaign or influence or leverage it.



Clapper is saying, we weren’t concerned about the campaigns, but the Russians trying to influence it.

 

[waiguoren]

Looking for a few examples, here’s one.

JAMES CLAPPER: Well, I think it's -- this is hyperbole. Hyperbole. They may have had someone who was talking to them in, uh, in the campaign, but, you know, the focus here, and as it was with the intelligence community is not on the campaign, per se, but what the Russians were doing to try to instantiate themselves in the campaign or influence or leverage it.



Clapper is saying, we weren’t concerned about the campaigns, but the Russians trying to influence it.

That's different from saying they were trying to protect Trump or his campaign.

Putting that aside, I'm very interested to see how this story develops. Is Nunes supposed to release a report on it soon?

 

[bobgeese]

That's different from saying they were trying to protect Trump or his campaign.

Putting that aside, I'm very interested to see how this story develops. Is Nunes supposed to release a report on it soon?

You don’t find that to be an incredible shift?


The narrative up to now has been they were investigating the campaign because of trumps connections to Russia.

Now they weren’t investigating the campaign, but Russians trying to influence it?


That’s a political 180.


I’m specifically looking for a thread last night that had many eyebrow raising reactions to the announcement that the IG would in fact be looking into it.


Also, the WP is a known mouthpiece, the shifts will come from there or the nyt. Just watch how this week unfolds.

 

[Limbo Pete]

Please get back on topic, guys

The election is long over

 

[hillelslovak87]

Oh I get that collusion never happened and you guys are desperately jumping to anything resembling a potato chance of being it. Absolutely got it. The whole reason this start d was collusion and homer in particular recently revived that retarded narrative. So you can’t say this is collusion, then be wrong for a year, and try to say it’s not collusion and you never said that when that was the title of at least a few of these threads of which we’re on our way to 20 versions of and still not it

Once again, collusion is not a crime, it is a catch all term to describe a host of obstruction related charges. One cannot be charged for a crime that does not exist, much less a term. Good god. The only people bringing up collusion are you guys, in defense. It makes you look quite foolish.

 

[cincymma79]

Once again, collusion is not a crime, it is a catch all term to describe a host of obstruction related charges. One cannot be charged for a crime that does not exist, much less a term. Good god. The only people bringing up collusion are you guys, in defense. It makes you look quite foolish.

Except for that was what he investigation was started for and of course what the thread was called. So if I did an investigation to see if you had any balls or not but discovered you wear panty hose I couldn’t later say see! Just like I said all along, panty hose

 

[bobgeese]

Please get back on topic, guys

The election is long over

How is this off topic?

We’ve been discussing the pretense for the entire investigation. And how it’s looking like the fbi lied about when the investigation started.

The IG now being appointed to investigate it.

The shift in narrative over the weekend etc.

Every bit of that is directly related to the russia investigation.



FFS it’s just broke they placed a spy in the trump campaign who has a history of spying on presidential campaigns, who was actively trying to bait members of trumps campaign before the date the fbi claims they opened the investigation.



Or would you rather the thread be more of “on no, someone talked to Israel”, while completely ignoring the Ukraine’s (among others) involvement in backing Hillary?

 

[ShadowRun]

Please get back on topic, guys

The election is long over

Isn’t this all about the election ? Lol

 

[Limbo Pete]

How is this off topic?

We’ve been discussing the pretense for the entire investigation. And how it’s looking like the fbi lied about when the investigation started.

The IG now being appointed to investigate it.

The shift in narrative over the weekend etc.

Every bit of that is directly related to the russia investigation.



FFS it’s just broke they placed a spy in the trump campaign who has a history of spying on presidential campaigns, who was actively trying to bait members of trumps campaign before the date the fbi claims they opened the investigation.



Or would you rather the thread be more of “on no, someone talked to Israel”, while completely ignoring the Ukraine’s (among others) involvement in backing Hillary?

Election polling is quite off topic. Nate Silver's hair is quite off topic. Just keep it about the investigation.

 

[bobgeese]

You right wing wackos have been trying to pin Hilary to the wall for decades, and you've got nothing so far. I hope you do, however, as I find her an absurd piece of shit.

Once again, collusion is not a crime, it is a catch all term to describe a host of obstruction related charges. One cannot be charged for a crime that does not exist, much less a term. Good god. The only people bringing up collusion are you guys, in defense. It makes you look quite foolish.

Keep hiding behind the "Collusion isn't illegal!!" argument. It does not seem to be working too well so far, as evidenced by the president begging and pleading for Republicans to take over the investigation and close it, and with multiple convictions, secret meetings detailed, and a guilty plea.

Except for that was what he investigation was started for and of course what the thread was called. So if I did an investigation to see if you had any balls or not but discovered you wear panty hose I couldn’t later say see! Just like I said all along, panty hose

I'll just leave this here...

“Once again, collusion is not a crime”


“Keep hiding behind the "Collusion isn't illegal!!" argument. It does not seem to be working too well so far” - hillelslovak87