Crime United Healthcare CEO assassinated in NYC

[Captain Tenneal]

And those people are already on medicaid, and medicaid costs $9500/enrollee, which would come out to $3.3 trillion/year for everyone to be forced onto medicaid. For reference, the entire tax receipts were $4.4T last year, so medicaid for all, and the entire rest of the government would have $1.1T to operate before they turn the money printer back on and inflate the shit out of currency again.

Also, it's a sector that's already heavily regulated.

We have to look at restructuring how healthcare is received in the first place, lowering costs for procedures that haven't changed in 50 years, and look into preventive measures.

Another idea is a co-funded healthcare "savings account" for each person that covers basics at a cheaper rate at the state level.

There are ideas to pursue and try, but it takes dialog. Not glorifying a nutjob

 

[KOByFootStomp]

You posted a stupid meme which I fucking owned with facts and once again you are tucking dick. TDS??? God now it makes sense why you follow all those beta bitchass pussies on Twitter.

The rustling is intensifying.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Well bud, there was stuff like capping drug prices, capping the fees doctors could charge, etc in the Affordable Care Act when it was introduced.

Guess who demanded it be removed?

Up until the Biden admin, Medicare could not legally negotiate drug prices. They had to pay whatever the drug companies decided to charge the government.

This is that dumbass’ normal mode of arguing. He heard a story about one time where a doctor or hospital tried to get away with billing the Insurance company a stupid charge and then didn’t. Now he things that means we can just dust off our hands and put the whole conversation to rest because it’s not insurance companies doing anything bad no sir.

He’s a completely useless poster that will always start with the conclusion, the conclusion will always be what is generally popular with conservative, and then run around trying to obfuscate any conversation on it with one off stories like this or bullshit he takes out of context. You might as well scroll past any of his posts because he is never interested in the truth of the matter.

 

[Andy Capp]

@Andy Capp

You asked and he provided… and THIS is your response?

He said, "...the people supporting this CEO's murder..." Do you think the quoted comment or merely "liking" the post is supporting murder? If so, we have a difference of opinion.

 

[Natural Order]

plus an additional 13,500 who are told to kill themselves to save money,

 

[Andy Capp]

A public option with the ability to get additional private insurance if you want it is probably the most sensible option at this point.

As far as denied claims go. Fraud is fraud and isn't acceptable or justifiable under any circumstance. If a denied claim was proven to be improper, then incredibly stiff penalties are needed. Not just civil penalties, criminal ones.

If there is a for profit option it's going to leech financial and every other kind of support from the public system.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

Should be fun challenge providing free healthcare to the fattest country in the world. Hospital lines gonna be like the DMV

Yeah, must say, it's a sad state of affairs how folks became a bunch of fatties and we throw so much food in the trash.

If we are going to sin tax the shit out of booze and s, maybe we need to think of taxing extremely poor nutritional 'food". Possibly a way to self-fund better healthcare.

Instead we get this bullshit body positivity imaging crap.

Also, I swear I have often mused if China deliberately engineered a virus in that Wuhan lab that would have a disproportionate effect on Americans than themselves. Like serious if you wanted to do that, how would you do it? Seems one of the best ways would be a virus that disproportionately harms fat people (I'd hazard to guess most do, but maybe you want one where the effect is particularly onerous). Corona supposedly had 3x the likelihood of hospitalization/death for obese people. Scary that an argument could be made that obesity rates are a matter of fucking national security.

 

[JBJisGOAT14]

The rustling is intensifying.

I will lay off you, it’s clear you can’t fight back intellectually wise. It’s like beating up a disabled person at this point. But please don’t reproduce.

 

[Sinister]

Insurance Company Celebrates 50 Billionth Fucking Over Of Customer

CANTON, OH—Overjoyed Cigna executives celebrated the health insurer’s 50 billionth fucking over of a customer Thursday, personally surprising 56-year-old spinal trauma victim Clyde Gershon with champagne, confetti, and hundreds of multicolored balloons as they denied his most recent disability...

theonion.com

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

I chuckled.

lol one of my fav accounts on instagram

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

1 ceo in exchange for tens of thousands of the poors.

Fair deal

 

[terrapin]

i dont understand the weird worship of Trump or any of his "team" or billionaire worship. They haven't done anything for this country..

trump has only ever been good at one thing and that's selling and creating a brand. that's all this is. its brand loyalty but shitty products.

 

[terrapin]

When people argue for free "universal healthcare" they don't seem to understand that no country has free healthcare. They are taxed up the ass for it at a rate that is likely higher than they pay for privatized healthcare with inferior service. The system is nowhere near perfect, but they don't understand that tax rates would rise exponentially in order to cover "free" healthcare. The only people that would really benefit from it is people who don't provide anything to society in the form of taxes.

they pay less in taxes than we do for private insurance though and nobody goes bankrupt from getting sick.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

Interdasting table:

 

[terrapin]

Interdasting table:

if only we had the key to what those numbers mean

 

[deviake]

Kyle Kulinski mocks people who condemn the shooting and says: "This idea that this CEO is a father and a husband....well Osama Bin Laden was a father and husband, too!"

His viewers make comments calling Luigi a "legend" and keep cheering for him to go free.

God these people are sick in the head. You can tell him and his audience are antisocial weirdos and outcasts IRL.

You can push this bullshit till you're blue in the face but hatred of the health insurance industry is extremely bipartisan. Every video Ben Shapiro has put out has been ratioed telling him he's wrong

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

And those people are already on medicaid, and medicaid costs $9500/enrollee, which would come out to $3.3 trillion/year for everyone to be forced onto medicaid. For reference, the entire tax receipts were $4.4T last year, so medicaid for all, and the entire rest of the government would have $1.1T to operate before they turn the money printer back on and inflate the shit out of currency again.

or they could, idk, regulate the pricing structure of medical providers and facilities.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

if only we had the key to what those numbers mean

It's hard to see for whatever reason in the picture, but in black font on the left is the categories for the rankings.

Same with the bottom row which is basically just saying USA spends about at least double per capita to everyone else just to finish dead last in the rankings.


Here is link to source for easier viewing if interested.

The Best Healthcare in the World: Country Rankings

Discover the countries with the best healthcare in 2024 and learn about the key factors that make Italy, Singapore, and Iceland top the list.

www.internationalinsurance.com

 

[terrapin]

It's hard to see for whatever reason in the picture, but in black font on the left is the categories for the rankings.

Same with the bottom row which is basically just saying USA spends about at least double per capita to everyone else just to finish dead last in the rankings.


Here is link to source for easier viewing if interested.

The Best Healthcare in the World: Country Rankings

Discover the countries with the best healthcare in 2024 and learn about the key factors that make Italy, Singapore, and Iceland top the list.

www.internationalinsurance.com

add this to your post man.

Key Findings: "The top-performing countries overall are Norway, the Netherlands, and Australia. The United States ranks last despite spending far more of its gross domestic product on health care. The U.S. ranks last on access to care, administrative efficiency, equity, and health care outcomes, but second on care process measures."

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

add this to your post man.

Key Findings: "The top-performing countries overall are Norway, the Netherlands, and Australia. The United States ranks last despite spending far more of its gross domestic product on health care. The U.S. ranks last on access to care, administrative efficiency, equity, and health care outcomes, but second on care process measures."

The key findings per Ben Shapiro:

"U.S. has the best heath care system in the world. It is among the very best on care process measures, and has better wait times than Canada. People say Norway has a good system, but it's obviously not true, as self care is horrible! Plus, if you have anal cancer, we have the highest rate of beating it for people between the ages of 55-60 and that weigh approximately 152 pounds."