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International UK Prime Minister announces that he is preparing to send British troops into Ukraine

nobody is sending anyone while the conflict is still going on.
the fuck are you all on about?
you can barely get people to die for their own country, nevermind one thousands of miles away.
it's just posturing and it's mostly done for internal audiences. look, i'm not a wanker as the opposition says, look at me saying we will go to war. what a statesman i am, eh?

stop believing this horseshit. no euro wants to die for ukraine.
 
Rod1 said:
Acceptable how? you are rewarding Russia only while giving shit to Ukraine.

An army of terrorists and rapists BTW.
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Acceptable because Russia is the only one who has the ability to win this war. You want more Ukrainians to die only for Russia to win anyway.
Rod1 said:
Drop the fucking charade.
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How about you take off your dunce cap and drop your own fucking charade, I've asked you several times across multiple threads to explain a scenario in which Ukraine can win this war. Since you can't or refuse to we can only conclude you just want more people to die in an unwinnable war because it is the opposite of what Trump wants.
 
Lycandroid said:
How about you take off your dunce cap and drop your own fucking charade, I've asked you several times across multiple threads to explain a scenario in which Ukraine can win this war.
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And you've gotten it a dozen times. Russia has neither the manpower nor the equipment to overrun and HOLD Ukraine, so long as Ukraine is supplied. We've had three years to watch this play out. The idea that russia is running strong and it's only a matter of time, is a farce proven by putin begging trump to come to the table.

If we stay the course, Putin has only a few choices: 1) eventually open up the draft for the middle class and start plucking guys from Moscow and St. Petersberg. Right now russian are ok with the poor dying from other regions. That won't last. 2) Grind it out for a few more years and maybe get to the point where you are directly shelling major population centers (you aren't winning this war with Kiev still up and running) and pray that Europe doesn't get involved any more than it has.

Stay the course and Russia has no choice but to barter for something they can save face with, or slowly collapse from within. And that's obvious given that the only people advocating for a ceasefire are russians and trump supporters.
 
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Lycandroid said:
Acceptable because Russia is the only one who has the ability to win this war. You want more Ukrainians to die only for Russia to win anyway.
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What the flying fuck? Russia doesn't has the manpower for a total war.

How about you take off your dunce cap and drop your own fucking charade, I've asked you several times across multiple threads to explain a scenario in which Ukraine can win this war. Since you can't or refuse to we can only conclude you just want more people to die in an unwinnable war because it is the opposite of what Trump wants.
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Are you a fucking retard or something?

South Korea was on the verge of defeat before the US intervened, they pushed North Koreans back and managed to get a DMZ and a ceasefire that still lasts to this day.

Ukraine "wins" the moment Russia decides to negotiate no less.
 
Darkballs said:
And you've gotten it a dozen times. Russia has neither the manpower nor the equipment to overrun and HOLD Ukraine, so long as Ukraine is supplied. We've had three years to watch this play out. The idea that russia is running strong and it's only a matter of time, is a farce proven by putin begging trump to come to the table.

If we stay the course, Putin has only a few choices: 1) eventually open up the draft for the middle class and start plucking guys from Moscow and St. Petersberg. Right now russian are ok with the poor dying from other regions. That won't last. 2) Grind it out for a few more years and maybe get to the point where you are directly shelling major population centers (you aren't winning with war with Kiev still up and running) and pray that Europe doesn't get involved any more than it has.

Stay the course and Russia has no choice but to barter for something they can save face with, or slowly collapse from within. And that's obvious given that the only people advocating for a ceasefire are russians and trump supporters.
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Ukraine will run out of men long before Russia does but even if you weaken Russia to the point where this could be won that will be at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives and billions of dollars. Once Russia is completely crushed and Nato countries are militarily depleted that would leave the world in a very volatile place, provided a nuclear war doesn't happen once Russia is backed into a corner.

Why is a peaceful solution completely off the table for you people ? Why is a bloody conflict so appealing to you all ?
 
JoeyJoeJoeJr said:
I can see it now. British troops get decimated and Britain becomes another state begging for help. If they do this, let them deal with the consequences on their own. Don't let low iq leaders drag us all down with them
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Fuck me! General StarCraft has made an appearance! The landlady finally unlocked that basement! @AWilder
 
Rod1 said:
What the flying fuck? Russia doesn't has the manpower for a total war.


Are you a fucking retard or something?

South Korea was on the verge of defeat before the US intervened, they pushed North Koreans back and managed to get a DMZ and a ceasefire that still lasts to this day.

Ukraine "wins" the moment Russia decides to negotiate no less.
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Neither side has the man power to totally eliminate the other side, but that is not the goal entirely is it ? Russia has plenty of weapons they haven't used because they don't want to risk escalating an international conflict, but if they get desperate enough to use smaller tactical nuclear weapons they will.

How about we do whatever we can to end this war peacefully instead of seeing it out the bitter end ?

The situation in Korea would have been very different if one side was a nuclear power while other was backed with weapons and unlimited money from the western world.
 
Lycandroid said:
Ukraine will run out of men long before Russia does but even if you weaken Russia to the point where this could be won that will be at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives and billions of dollars. Once Russia is completely crushed and Nato countries are militarily depleted that would leave the world in a very volatile place, provided a nuclear war doesn't happen once Russia is backed into a corner.
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None of this address my points. No, russia cannot just wage war until Ukraine runs out of men. They lack the resources to hold and take territory already.

Additionally, what you putin cock-suckers never factor in, is the defense of Ukraine isn't just limited to Ukrainians. Other nations could very well get involved. And if you think nations like Poland and Germany would just sit by while Putin genocides Ukraine after it runs out of men in a few weeks, is a farce.

We know all this, because it isn't Ukraine crawling on it's knees begging for a cease-fire. It's Russia, and the conservative americans who worship them.


Lycandroid said:
Why is a peaceful solution completely off the table for you people ?
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Because russians are lying cunts who don't want peace and only the dumbest motherfuckers trust them.
 
Neither side has the man power to totally eliminate the other side,
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And your solution is to tilt the balance in the favor of the aggressor who will totally not see such imbalance as a signal to continue aggressions?


How about we do whatever we can to end this war peacefully instead of seeing it out the bitter end ?
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Only Russia can stop the war and Ukrainians are more likely to keep fighting against an army full of rapists and terrorists rather than give them free reign over their country.

This will just lead to even more death.
 
Lycandroid said:
Neither side has the man power to totally eliminate the other side, but that is not the goal entirely is it ? Russia has plenty of weapons they haven't used because they don't want to risk escalating an international conflict, but if they get desperate enough to use smaller tactical nuclear weapons they will.

How about we do whatever we can to end this war peacefully instead of seeing it out the bitter end ?

The situation in Korea would have been very different if one side was a nuclear power while other was backed with weapons and unlimited money from the western world.
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Yeah China will be totally cool with nuclear fallout coming across their lands.
Dont forget China is currently propping up Russia, because they like the cheap gas, but right now the relationship is beneficial and even Tiny Putin knows a tactical nuke ends the world.
 
Rod1 said:
And your solution is to tilt the balance in the favor of the aggressor who will totally not see such imbalance as a signal to continue aggressions?




Only Russia can stop the war and Ukrainians are more likely to keep fighting against an army full of rapists and terrorists rather than give them free reign over their country.

This will just lead to even more death.
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They never seem to acknowledge the "peace" in question will be occupation, which isn't peaceful at all
 
Lycandroid said:
What is the alternative ? Hundreds of thousands of more deaths ? How are you going to get Russia out of there without an absolute slaughter fest that could escalate to nuclear war ?

If that is your preference you are an evil person who has no business discussing any of this.
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Man do these guys not know how corny it looks to play dress up?
 
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