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Its your money dude i just think ishi has potential to go far and lobov has a punchers chance at best
Watch Ishihara vs Erosa. With that grappling Ishihara not going ANYWHERE. He is a decent striker who has been given few favorable matchups and thats all. Erosa (who Artem ktfo'd in one minute. and Gutierrez (2-3 LOL)
 
I had Alvarez so no lol :(

I have almost almost 3 units on Andre ward.
Half a unit on Artem only because he's a big dog. At evens I'd take his opponent. No strong lean either way.
I take it you dont like conor so. got to let that go mate.
I would consider myself an expert on picking his fights and this one was one of the easiest a long with Aldo.

I had V Poirier Win, V Poirier KO 1st round. That was huge odds. Had 50 on each.
Had the same bets vs Aldo. Huge again.
Had him v small now to beat Mendes in 2nd.
Had him v alvarez in the 2nd too.
Had him v small vs nate but lost obv, i actually would have backed nate heavy at 6.0 if i had a roll then.

Wards a doozy agreed, I think a lotta ppl under rating artem. he a lot better than his record suggest. them odds seem very wacky. both guys should be same odds.
 
Watch Ishihara vs Erosa. With that grappling Ishihara not going ANYWHERE. He is a decent striker who has been given few favorable matchups and thats all. Erosa (who Artem ktfo'd in one minute. and Gutierrez (2-3 LOL)

I watched it two days ago i dont remember any grappling lol what happened?
 
Erosas not a bad fighter at all tbh.
He lost a BS fight in Cage Warriors on the weekend.
 
She looked fine against jj
she looked a lot worse than the first fight, lost a bit on her in this one stupidly i.e. usada.
i do think shes a decent bet against anyone not named JJ tho tbh, like i said tho not sure she the same post usada.
 
Fairly sure the UFC recognize that Ishihara could be a legit prospect from Japan with a marketable personality. He's young, has lotsof high level experience for his age, a good record and is more or less a walking performance bonus waiting to happen. Dude might get one or two more flashy KO's and a good match up against someone ranked as a Co-main on some Asian card and sell a fair few tickets.

Artem on the other hand is a lot of things, but exciting is not one of them. At best he puts on fun fights against low level guys on some for a crappy fight card in Europe. Dude is 30 y/o, 0.5 record and has no really good skills except that he's tough as nails and likes to bang. He is, quite simply, a decent filler who'll put on decent fights for the most part and I think they use him as a fairly safe way for exciting prospects to get a decent win or two.

That said I'm not dumping a lot of money on Ishi as a big favorite, he's not a complete fighter yet.

This is literally all Ishihara has shown so far, against bums no less.
 
I think Ishihara is skilled.

He's got 1 move and that's the left hand but he finds ways to land it. I'd consider him pretty athletic and he's got some good speed. He's working at TAM so I believe with his youth he'll only improve. He just needs to continue working on his footwork and maybe if he developed a grappling skillset he'd be a decent enough fighter to stick around. It's definitely hard to back Asian fighters cuz we're all used to being disappointed but I hope he develops his game at Alpha Male.

And he's got a lot of personality and bravado, I think that's gotta give him a bit of a mental edge. It definitely matches and translates into the way he fights in the cage.

Artem stands literally like a test dummy. Hands down and his head erect. He's got the same left hand but I'd consider it southpaw tricks than Artem being skillful. When the two face it'll be 2 leftys going at it.

I think Teruto is going to thrash Artem but I understand people's gripes about the line for this fight, it's some bullshit it needs to be cheaper. They're both 1 dimensional when it comes down to it.

I'd recap this fight at at -175/+160 and I'll play Ishihara - not sure if KO or decision.

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Overall, I believe in Teruto. I've followed him on instagram and besides the gay shit he sometimes posts, he's a pretty cool dude. He's one of the only guys in the UFC with any style and swag compared to anyone right now besides Conor, at least in my opinion.

#ILMB
 
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This is literally all Ishihara has shown so far, against bums no less.

Yea but at least he has some semi-impressive performances and has a upside. Lobov have yet to get a win vs anyone with a wikipedia page. What's his best win? Martin Svensson? Some random on TUF? A bunch of people was on him vs White and promised never to bet him again. The guy has had plenty of opportunities to make an impact and I don't see him having his best years in front of him given that he's north of 30, has ~25 fights and seven losses to fighters I've never even heard of.

I think the line is about right.
 
Yea but at least he has some semi-impressive performances and has a upside. Lobov have yet to get a win vs anyone with a wikipedia page. What's his best win? Martin Svensson? Some random on TUF? A bunch of people was on him vs White and promised never to bet him again. The guy has had plenty of opportunities to make an impact and I don't see him having his best years in front of him given that he's north of 30, has ~25 fights and seven losses to fighters I've never even heard of.

I think the line is about right.
Lobov on TUF had awesome performances. KOs over Gruetzemacher (who might be able to decision Ishihara) and Erosa and a hard fought war with Mahdi Baghdad. I think you might be the only person who will bring up resumes in this fight lol neither guy has a definitively more impressive one I'd say
 
Yea but at least he has some semi-impressive performances and has a upside. Lobov have yet to get a win vs anyone with a wikipedia page. What's his best win? Martin Svensson? Some random on TUF? A bunch of people was on him vs White and promised never to bet him again. The guy has had plenty of opportunities to make an impact and I don't see him having his best years in front of him given that he's north of 30, has ~25 fights and seven losses to fighters I've never even heard of.

I think the line is about right.
Artem's best win is Ishihara's best win... Erosa
 
I take it you dont like conor so. got to let that go mate.
I would consider myself an expert on picking his fights and this one was one of the easiest a long with Aldo.

I had V Poirier Win, V Poirier KO 1st round. That was huge odds. Had 50 on each.
Had the same bets vs Aldo. Huge again.
Had him v small now to beat Mendes in 2nd.
Had him v alvarez in the 2nd too.
Had him v small vs nate but lost obv, i actually would have backed nate heavy at 6.0 if i had a roll then.

Wards a doozy agreed, I think a lotta ppl under rating artem. he a lot better than his record suggest. them odds seem very wacky. both guys should be same odds.

I like Conor. I'm not a huge fan of any current fighters really but Conor is up there.

I bet on Conor vs Nate in the last fight and bet on Diaz in their first fight only because he was a huge dog.

The clinch game Nate was able to impose was worrisome.
Alvarez just couldn't eat those bombs like Diaz did and Conor didn't have to worry about jumping into a dangerous guard.
 
I like Conor. I'm not a huge fan of any current fighters really but Conor is up there.

I bet on Conor vs Nate in the last fight and bet on Diaz in their first fight only because he was a huge dog.

The clinch game Nate was able to impose was worrisome.
Alvarez just couldn't eat those bombs like Diaz did and Conor didn't have to worry about jumping into a dangerous guard.
them first two shots after thirty seconds when he knocked eddie down are two of the best punches i ever seen in MMA, especially the second one. fucking unreal.
 
Some tape watch done. Kwak vs Johns is a tough one. If Kwak has improved his wrestling enough to keep it on the feet a majority of the time, he could outpoint Johns there. Johns throws pretty tight but comes off too mechanical where Kwak has more fluidity. But watching the Lunge (I think that was his name) fight, Kwak seems way too easy to takedown. Johns decision all day unless I get something retarded like +400 for Kwak decision
 
Interesting note about Bookie Beatdown. They've been ditched off the TV format but they're continuing the show, so no more annoying "TV breaks" and longer podcasts
 
Hmmm. Godbeer is pretty good. Honestly, if his decision like is something retarded like I'm kind of expecting (+8xx to +1xxx) I'm going to have to heavily consider it.

Also agree with those earlier pointing out the over
 
Stevie Ray versus Ross Pearson

Ray is a damn solid athlete and a growing contender in the 155 pound division. Now training — intermittently – at Tri-Star where he gets excellent sparring and training thus his game has improved markedly. He is an excellent counter striker who has a lot of raw power in his mittens and does an excellent job of catching his opponent overextending and/or being too aggressive. Ray is not the most technical pugilist per se, but his fundamentals have rapidly improved since going to a high-level camp and at just 26 years of age he is only beginning to hit the prime of his career. What's more, Ray likes to march his opponent down with excellent volume striking and he is deceptively quick with his hands and when he lands he causes damage. When he has his man hurt, Ray is also an excellent finisher. Early in his career he had lost a lot of fights due to submissions; in fact, four of Ray’s five career losses came via submissions as he was too aggressive in the past and placed himself in bad positions.

However, he started in mixed martial arts when he was 19 years old and was taking a lot of fights on short notice at welterweight just to pay the bills. Recently his BJJ game has made significant strides and is now a major role in his versatile skills set. Specifically, Ray has submitted eight of his opponents and doing so with six different forms of submission.

While I believe Pearson is a very good fighter, I do believe that he is on the downslope of his career. Ray is on the way up. I give a technical striking advantage to Pearson, but the speed and power will go to the Scot. Additionally, Ray will have a 6 six year age advantage and more importantly, far less miles on his odometer. Indeed, Pearson has been in a ton of wars and I think that they might be catching up to him. The only areas that Pearson may have a clear edge over Ray in this fight would be in the wrestling department, but I do believe the Scot has good enough TDD to keep things vertical for the duration. I believe this fight goes the distance but if it were to end early I do believe that it is Ray who will be the beneficiary.

Ross Pearson has lost 4 of his last 6 fights and TBH he could potentially be on a 6 fight losing streak. That is to say that over the course of his last six outings all of them went to a decision and the only two only two victories were SD' s. What's more, he hasn't had a finish since he knocked out what was left of Sam Stout 7 fights ago. and while he was robbed against Diego Sanchez, that fight was way too close a contest for someone who is as washed up as Sanchez is.

Like Francisco Trinaldo I believe Ray is going to be able to I'll strike Pearson and consistently beat him to the punch.

Thoughts?
 
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Stevie Ray versus Ross Pearson

Ray is a damn solid athlete and a growing contender in the 155 pound division. Now training — intermittently – at Tri-Star where he gets excellent sparring and training thus his game has improved markedly. He is an excellent counter striker who has a lot of raw power in his mittens and does an excellent job of catching his opponent overextending and/or being too aggressive. Ray is not the most technical pugilist per se, but his fundamentals have rapidly improved since going to a high-level camp and at just 26 years of age he is only beginning to hit the prime of his career. What's more, Ray likes to march his opponent down with excellent volume striking and he is deceptively quick with his hands and when he lands he causes damage. When he has his man hurt, Ray is also an excellent finisher. Early in his career he had lost a lot of fights due to submissions; in fact, four of Ray’s five career losses came via submissions as he was too aggressive in the past and placed himself in bad positions.

However, he started in mixed martial arts when he was 19 years old and was taking a lot of fights on short notice at welterweight just to pay the bills. Recently his BJJ game has made significant strides and is now a major role in his versatile skills set. Specifically, Ray has submitted eight of his opponents and doing so with six different forms of submission.

While I believe Pearson is a very good fighter, I do believe that he is on the downslope of his career. Ray is on the way up. I give a technical striking advantage to Pearson, but the speed and power will go to the Scot. Additionally, Ray will have a 6 six year age advantage and more importantly, far less miles on his odometer. Indeed, Pearson has been in a ton of wars and I think that they might be catching up to him. The only areas that Pearson may have a clear edge over Ray in this fight would be in the wrestling department, but I do believe the Scot has good enough TDD to keep things vertical for the duration. I believe this fight goes the distance but if it were to end early I do believe that it is Ray who will be the beneficiary.

Ross Pearson has lost 4 of his last 6 fights and TBH he could potentially be on a 6 fight losing streak. That is to say that over the course of his last six outings all of them went to a decision and the only two only two victories were SD' s. What's more, he hasn't had a finish since he knocked out what was left of Sam Stout 7 fights ago. and while he was robbed against Diego Sanchez, that fight was way too close a contest for someone who is as washed up as Sanchez is.

Like Francisco Trinaldo I believe Ray is going to be able to I'll strike Pearson and consistently beat him to the punch.

Thoughts?
I think your analysis is fair but for some reason I'm still seeing a Ross Pearson win by split decision so I bet him straight at -115 and the over 2½ in parlays. I also like your lean with Gamburyan & Eduardo. I'm on Manny at +145 and the under 2½ at +130. That under of course covers Manny getting a sub or Eduardo getting a KO before the middle of the third round, the two most likely ways this ends early.
 
Stevie Ray versus Ross Pearson

Ray is a damn solid athlete and a growing contender in the 155 pound division. Now training — intermittently – at Tri-Star where he gets excellent sparring and training thus his game has improved markedly. He is an excellent counter striker who has a lot of raw power in his mittens and does an excellent job of catching his opponent overextending and/or being too aggressive. Ray is not the most technical pugilist per se, but his fundamentals have rapidly improved since going to a high-level camp and at just 26 years of age he is only beginning to hit the prime of his career. What's more, Ray likes to march his opponent down with excellent volume striking and he is deceptively quick with his hands and when he lands he causes damage. When he has his man hurt, Ray is also an excellent finisher. Early in his career he had lost a lot of fights due to submissions; in fact, four of Ray’s five career losses came via submissions as he was too aggressive in the past and placed himself in bad positions.

However, he started in mixed martial arts when he was 19 years old and was taking a lot of fights on short notice at welterweight just to pay the bills. Recently his BJJ game has made significant strides and is now a major role in his versatile skills set. Specifically, Ray has submitted eight of his opponents and doing so with six different forms of submission.

While I believe Pearson is a very good fighter, I do believe that he is on the downslope of his career. Ray is on the way up. I give a technical striking advantage to Pearson, but the speed and power will go to the Scot. Additionally, Ray will have a 6 six year age advantage and more importantly, far less miles on his odometer. Indeed, Pearson has been in a ton of wars and I think that they might be catching up to him. The only areas that Pearson may have a clear edge over Ray in this fight would be in the wrestling department, but I do believe the Scot has good enough TDD to keep things vertical for the duration. I believe this fight goes the distance but if it were to end early I do believe that it is Ray who will be the beneficiary.

Ross Pearson has lost 4 of his last 6 fights and TBH he could potentially be on a 6 fight losing streak. That is to say that over the course of his last six outings all of them went to a decision and the only two only two victories were SD' s. What's more, he hasn't had a finish since he knocked out what was left of Sam Stout 7 fights ago. and while he was robbed against Diego Sanchez, that fight was way too close a contest for someone who is as washed up as Sanchez is.

Like Francisco Trinaldo I believe Ray is going to be able to I'll strike Pearson and consistently beat him to the punch.

Thoughts?

I think someone mentioned that he's training in Scotland for this fight for what I assume to be financial reasons. He didn't do Tristar for his last fight either he looked lost at what to do when facing another southpaw and he was spending too much time trying to submit a BJJ black belt off his back which is pretty bad IQ.

I thought he's looked great thus far and his hands have looked great but he's facing his best striker to date in Ross Pearson.

Ross is no good against grapplers and Ray isn't much of a wrestler.

Ross is still a sharp striker and he's fought some of the best LWs. Best thing Ray's got going for him is that he's a southpaw and Ross has a pretty good left hook that he loves to use against orthodox fighters.

I'm also on Manny but I'll temper my plays on that baldy he's pretty close to being on his way out too.
 
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