UFN 99 - Hall vs Mousasi 2 - Ireland

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Fairly sure the UFC recognize that Ishihara could be a legit prospect from Japan with a marketable personality. He's young, has lotsof high level experience for his age, a good record and is more or less a walking performance bonus waiting to happen. Dude might get one or two more flashy KO's and a good match up against someone ranked as a Co-main on some Asian card and sell a fair few tickets.

Artem on the other hand is a lot of things, but exciting is not one of them. At best he puts on fun fights against low level guys on some for a crappy fight card in Europe. Dude is 30 y/o, 0.5 record and has no really good skills except that he's tough as nails and likes to bang. He is, quite simply, a decent filler who'll put on decent fights for the most part and I think they use him as a fairly safe way for exciting prospects to get a decent win or two.

That said I'm not dumping a lot of money on Ishi as a big favorite, he's not a complete fighter yet.
 
EzFlyer said:
forgive me, father, for i think i just sinned.

i laid with (laid money on) a russian irishman.

joking aside, i'm hardly confident, but i think artem's chin can hold up and i think he can win the 2nd and 3rd round vs ishi. ishi's style is not suited for prolonged engagements, i think he slows down as the fight goes. i think artem gets any close rounds in ireland, too. he's +235. not a big bet, but i like it. /shrug.

conor is kinda the best training partner lobov could have to prep for ishi, too...

i do have small stabs on artem rd 3 +2150 and ishi DEC +370, too, also banking slightly on lobov's durability/craftiness.
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Don't worry. I just rewatched ishihara vs Erosa. Ishihara telegraphs his shots and you can see them coming mile away. Lobov is a counter striker himself and no way he rushes inside like Erosa and Gutierrez did. lobov doesn't have to worry about takedowns. Ishi was damn tired after round 1. I think this matchup favors Lobov a lot. He has seen faster southpaw strikes his all life than what Ishihara brings to the table. Judges probably prefer Lobov too there.
Lobov ktfo'd Erosa faster than Ishihara did. Gutierrez is even less UFC worthy than Lobov. I think odds are way off. Im gonna go with Artem. Hope this is a confidence increase for you.
 
im not looking to gamble my roll tactically i know 100% of my roll is bad but i felt i had to bet it as i was running bad at the tables and lost 33% of it that way. So im looking for good bets with decent probability/bad odds making.

so last weekend i did this.
Conor + Ward double , MMA/Boxing. 150 on this returning 350 if Ward wins as Conor already has.
Lobov , just put my last 100 straight on him for a return of 300, I like the price on Lobov and see value in it.
Prem league a 5 team acca at 15/1 including Arsenal to win at my beloved OT, have 30 on this but not expecting it
Couple of accas on FN cards too totalling 20.

I reckon Ward is a certainty, Conor too which is the reason for the big bet there.
 
And guys keep in mind.. Kevin Lee just talked trash. Has we have seen in the past these fighters tend to lose their fights. Confidence increase in Magomed
 
ricioyourdoom said:
im not looking to gamble my roll tactically i know 100% of my roll is bad but i felt i had to bet it as i was running bad at the tables and lost 33% of it that way. So im looking for good bets with decent probability/bad odds making.

so last weekend i did this.
Conor + Ward double , MMA/Boxing. 150 on this returning 350 if Ward wins as Conor already has.
Lobov , just put my last 100 straight on him for a return of 300, I like the price on Lobov and see value in it.
Prem league a 5 team acca at 15/1 including Arsenal to win at my beloved OT, have 30 on this but not expecting it
Couple of accas on FN cards too totalling 20.

I reckon Ward is a certainty, Conor too which is the reason for the big bet there.
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Ward's opponent is a MONSTER. Melvin manhoef 2.0........... good luck with that brotha.
 
Glad to see alot of people of Artem. I think it's pretty close to a 50-50 fight. It's dog or pass. Ishihara may win but no way am I gonna lay 3-1.
 
Officer_Brown said:
Ward's opponent is a MONSTER. Melvin manhoef 2.0........... good luck with that brotha.
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I dont watch much boxing, but the Ward Froch fight convinced me on him. The guy is the closest thing I seen to Mayweather so im backing it.

Reckon he tools Kova to a cushty decision
 
Man i think ishi takes care of lobov. Im not betting him but i really dont see lobov having anything for him.
 
Sham5916910 said:
Man i think ishi takes care of lobov. Im not betting him but i really dont see lobov having anything for him.
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Lobov is a fucking animal man, just seen that Ishi had 2 fights in the UFC so i backed it. no way is lobov 3.0 there.
 
Polarize said:
I think he is a good prospect too, his last KO was brutal, the way he threw that counter, awesome. It seems he continues with Team Alpha Male which is good.

If I'm not mistaken both guys are southpaw, Ishi 4" reach more. I have the impression UFC is giving a favorable match up to "build" Ishihara. I hate to bet on this type of fights.

Edit: I was thinking about Horiguchi as parlay material -175 but Baga is too dangerous to bet against, Baga doesn't mix his striking with takedowns as good as D.Johnson but he could land takedowns countering Guchi's blitz. Good top control, sick G&P. He is southpaw too. Baga is a live dog imo
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Yeah i need someone for fodder to play with gadehela and its out of cummings and horiguchi. Just need to watch tape on ali before deciding who. Horiguchi has been with att last fight or two and his tdd was already good. Mm had a hard time getting him down and even harder time keeping him down until r5 when he was gassed. He looked super slick against seery. Just need to see if i think ali can get him down cos hes not winning a striking battle. Even if he can get him down not so sure he can keep him down either.
 
Sham5916910 said:
Yeah i need someone for fodder to play with gadehela and its out of cummings and horiguchi. Just need to watch tape on ali before deciding who. Horiguchi has been with att last fight or two and his tdd was already good. Mm had a hard time getting him down and even harder time keeping him down until r5 when he was gassed. He looked super slick against seery. Just need to see if i think ali can get him down cos hes not winning a striking battle. Even if he can get him down not so sure he can keep him down either.
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id be careful with gadelha post usada. thats all i say.
 
Sham5916910 said:
Hes slow as fuck
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ye but is he 2/1 against an unknown? the guy hits like a fucking mack truck.
He is also the hometown fighter which people are overlooking.

This Ishi guy is a stand up fighter not a ground fighter, hes getting KTFO by Lobov.
 
Guys I have a question about undertalked fight between kwak and Johns. Watched both guys and no strong lean on either side. Johns a favorite ... idk why? maybe cuz his the champ? seems to be 50-50 fight for me. Koeran boy doesn't look bad. Has great hands. Maybe cardio edge for johns?
@Joseph Budden , @EzFlyer , @Brick Top

Brett Johns last fight: https://www.ufc.tv/video/titan-fc-34 (skip to 3 hours 50 minutes)
Kwak last fight:
 
ricioyourdoom said:
ye but is he 2/1 against an unknown? the guy hits like a fucking mack truck.
He is also the hometown fighter which people are overlooking.

This Ishi guy is a stand up fighter not a ground fighter, hes getting KTFO by Lobov.
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Its your money dude i just think ishi has potential to go far and lobov has a punchers chance at best
 
ricioyourdoom said:
You like my bets mate?

I really like that Conor + Ward double i picked out, fucking great odds on that,
Would you review all my bets?
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I had Alvarez so no lol :(

I have almost almost 3 units on Andre ward.
Half a unit on Artem only because he's a big dog. At evens I'd take his opponent. No strong lean either way.
 
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