UFC's Current Pound for Pound Rankings

Hypetrainofthemonth said:
I added others because I figured GSP finishing the guy that beat Silva, who started as a LHW, and was current MW champ at the fight(meaning GSP's opponent started two WC above), who contrary to hindsighted haters, and revisionist, was seen a a possible bad match up(bigger, good TDD, good cardio, 4 year lay off from GSP) for GSP was >> (greater than) 3 non champion during the fight LHW's, who were pretty favorable match ups for the PED user, especially Xanax'd Griffin & Oxymorphone + Methadone (both very strong opioids, I mean methadone is used to combat heroin) so definitely giving Irvin a disadvantage.


Not only that, post prime, clean GSP did his after a 4 year lay off, vs Silva who was active, & possibly still on PEDs from his Pride days.


I figured since everyone should know that, and since that is relevant to the P4P data, I had to extrapolate the other data, that helps even more to reach the more common sense's idea that GSP is still above Silva in P4P.

;)
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You weirdo's who quote folks and then start arguments over things they didn't say are tedious.

Go find someone else to bicker with about something they didn't say.
 
I'm just waiting for all the tears and shit-filled diapers after Jones returns, wins, and tops the list again.

It will be glorious.
 
chiefwiggum said:
If you include Jon jones on your list how would there be 8 guys in front. You have usman 1. Jones is better at eveything fought way better fighters was in the ufc in 8 months of fighting won the title in less than 3 years and never lost.

usman is a huge ww. Has a good jab and wrestling. mall tbings being equal I wouldn’t think he would be so dominant.
P4p was made to garner interest in lower weight classes in boxing. Just curious.

how never losing and having a better resume you would put a guy like that at 9.
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You make the incorrect claim, twice, that Jones has "never lost".

Well, he has.

So I'm sure why you are claiming he's undefeated, because he isn't.
 
CrimsonFan said:
Didn't even know one was coming. I just might gonna wait and see who the main event is have they even announced it?
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I don’t think so, but last I heard they added Kevin Holland vs Tim Means to the card.
 
Does Poirier really belong on that list though or at least that high?
 
If Conor McGregor KOs Usman in the first round will he then be the new p4p king is that how it works?
 
Francis shouldn't be anywhere near the p4p list, when all his success literally comes from being big and powerful. It makes zero sense having him on there.
 
Answer to all scratchings of head: marketting and business strategizing.

Usman x chimaev is their big fight.
Stipe x Jones is their other.
Everything else is who is a company vs who has been outspoken about leaving/
 
I have Volk over Usman

And Holloway over Francis and Oliveira... yeah he lost to Volk, but Volk is #1 P4P IMO

Oliveira over Francis also

I don't even think they should go past 5 on the P4P, it just gets stupid past the very top guys. Why is Whittaker so low? He's really 8 spots below Dustin Poirier? That's laughable IMO.
 
shankmcgank said:
You make the incorrect claim, twice, that Jones has "never lost".

Well, he has.

So I'm sure why you are claiming he's undefeated, because he isn't.
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i haven’t scored a fight against him. When guys are so dominant they look to give the opponent anything close. It was a close fight. I thought jones won if you’re referring to Reyes and maybe Gustafson as well? Which was a great fight and showed how great jones is.

even if those cards went the other way jones would still be 1 p4p. As nobody is remotely close in resume and dominating the opposition.

volkanowski is the closest to that. But it’s a fraction of the time.

Usman resume is really poor if your objective about it.

best wins are Colby and he has no quality wins.

they’re claim to fame was woodley. And 40 year old Maia and rda.

Jake Paul almost killed woodley 2 years after there wins over him. Maybe shorter time. And picked up gloves for the first time in his 20s for 2 2 years.

Yeah it’s boxing Neither Colby or usman wanted to strike with woodley at all though.

now all of those guys you have over jones what are there losses? And are they worse than jones wins you think are losses?

you’re not objective about it. As you’re rebuttalnwill be silly
 
chiefwiggum said:
i haven’t scored a fight against him. When guys are so dominant they look to give the opponent anything close. It was a close fight. I thought jones won if you’re referring to Reyes and maybe Gustafson as well? Which was a great fight and showed how great jones is.

even if those cards went the other way jones would still be 1 p4p. As nobody is remotely close in resume and dominating the opposition.

volkanowski is the closest to that. But it’s a fraction of the time.

Usman resume is really poor if your objective about it.

best wins are Colby and he has no quality wins.

they’re claim to fame was woodley. And 40 year old Maia and rda.

Jake Paul almost killed woodley 2 years after there wins over him. Maybe shorter time. And picked up gloves for the first time in his 20s for 2 2 years.

Yeah it’s boxing Neither Colby or usman wanted to strike with woodley at all though.

now all of those guys you have over jones what are there losses? And are they worse than jones wins you think are losses?

you’re not objective about it. As you’re rebuttalnwill be silly
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Who won the Jones vs. Hamill fight?

Asking for a friend.
 
shankmcgank said:
Who won the Jones vs. Hamill fight?

Asking for a friend.
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oh that’s what you’re referring to? That happens all the time man. inguess if you’re judging a flawless victory from a foul. When the ref asks a def guy if he’s ok and the def guy doesn’t speak back.

give me your list. And then apply your logic to a ridiculous dq loss on record.

itbwoule be like dqing adasanya for hitting some shots behind the head of costa and he rolled to his stomach. which happens constantly.
 
chiefwiggum said:
oh that’s what you’re referring to? That happens all the time man. inguess if you’re judging a flawless victory from a foul. When the ref asks a def guy if he’s ok and the def guy doesn’t speak back.

give me your list. And then apply your logic to a ridiculous dq loss on record.

itbwoule be like dqing adasanya for hitting some shots behind the head or any guy in that position which happens constantly.
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I'm not the person who claimed, twice in the same post, that Jones is "undefeated".

He has a loss on his official record, which would mean claiming he "hasn't lost" simply isn't true. Yan lost his title for an illegal strike, so whether people think it's lame or not, they both got DQ'd for illegal strikes, and both of them lost as a result.

Regardless, Jones has been caught multiple times using "dick pills" so I rank every LHW and 98% of the UFC past and current roster ahead of him, minus the other steroid/EPO cheaters.

Literally nobody considers Lance Armstrong the GOAT cyclist any more, because of his rampant cheating and use of illegal substances, so I just have to laugh when people put Jones and Anderson "The Juicer" Silva on P4P and/or GOAT lists.

Just my opinion Sherbro.

<RomeroSalute>
 
shankmcgank said:
I'm not the person who claimed, twice in the same post, that Jones is "undefeated".

He has a loss on his official record, which would mean claiming he "hasn't lost" simply isn't true. Yan lost his title for an illegal strike, so whether people think it's lame or not, they both got DQ'd for illegal strikes, and both of them lost as a result.

Regardless, Jones has been caught multiple times using "dick pills" so I rank every LHW and 98% of the UFC past and current roster ahead of him, minus the other steroid/EPO cheaters.

Literally nobody considers Lance Armstrong the GOAT cyclist any more, because of his rampant cheating and use of illegal substances, so I just have to laugh when people put Jones and Anderson "The Juicer" Silva on P4P and/or GOAT lists.

Just my opinion Sherbro.

<RomeroSalute>
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Everyone cyclist has been busted for peds. They all did it.

jones had trace amounts for substances. Which would have no benefit to performance. Look at the standards of the vitamin and supplement industry. 20/20 or 60 mins did a piece where they didn3 supplements. One had half and half of what it said. The 2nd. Was honest. The third. Pure arsenic all fda approved to sell the the public.

You’re native. You eat a cookie a chip or a sandwich. There may be shellfish or any other allergin in it today.

why would you have shellfish in your peanut butter?

inalso thought Holyfield fought Lennox to a draw the first fight. Ninja rua and lindland despite beating rampage in the fight it was officially scored the other way.

you have eyes you can watch.

you should look into jones actual case. I’m sure you think Diaz gogoplata didn’t count because he had thc metabolites.

don’t get caught up in semantics. Use your eyes and your brain.

the number 1 swimmer in womens swimming is a dude. That’s not against the rules as he feels like one.

Come on buddy. Lol.
 
Yan should be behind Moreno, Izzy should be behind Ngannou, Holloway always behind Porier unless he goes on another title run.
 
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