UFC's Current Pound for Pound Rankings

quality of the wins matters too
and just because you 'lost well' like colby it doesn't really matter

francis has been steamrolling people except for Gane
izzy is going to decisions (yoel, silva, gastelum, vettori, whittaker) and many thought whittaker won the 2nd fight

Francis only loss has been to stipe 1. and he's clearly a different fighter now. The derrick lewis fight was a dud and has no bearing on anything.
 
Izzy clearly won and Francis clearly did not.

Izzy didn't arguably lose to anyone except Jan... a LHW.

Francis has 2 full on 100 percent losses to Stipe and BB and I wanted Francis to win both...

"Izzy clearly beat Yoel"

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I don't know what's dumber.. that or not understanding how Francis KOing Stipe a year ago is more relevant than losing a decision to him 4 years ago.
 
"Izzy clearly beat Yoel"

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I don't know what's dumber.. that or not understanding how Francis KOing Stipe a year ago is more relevant than losing a decision to him 4 years ago.
Ahh yes the resort to insults when you have no argument. Yoel did jack shit bud. Get over it.

Robert Whittaker won 2 rounds at best.

You have Helen Keller level eyesight.
 
I'd probably put Yan as #1 P4P right now and they have him at #14.
The guy who at BEST won 3 out of 5 versus Aljo??

You think Yan is better than Usman and Volk? Because he certainly hasn't proved it. I like Yan but I don't think he is or deserves to be #1, he couldn't even seriously hurt Aljo a single time in their 25min rematch.

imo if Yan was half as good as he's hyped up to be, he would've had far more success in his last fight. What's his best win?? Sandhagen? Worn Aldo at BW? Past prime Old ass Faber?

I do however agree he does qualify to be rated higher than #14. Definitely one of the PFP most fear inducing fighters to face.
 
Ahh yes the resort to insults when you have no argument. Yoel did jack shit bud. Get over it.

Robert Whittaker won 2 rounds at best.

You have Helen Keller level eyesight.

"Helen Keller"

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Volkanovski ahead of Izzy tells you all you need to know about the rankings. Utter garbage that stems from suspicious sources. He shouldn’t even be champion.
 
Usman has beat no one on the PFP list while being ranked 1. I get he has the most defenses at the moment but when his competition isn't to the par of others it makes it look questionable
 
Volkanovski ahead of Izzy tells you all you need to know about the rankings. Utter garbage that stems from suspicious sources. He shouldn’t even be champion.
Volk has better wins than Izzy. Everything wrong with this list and that's the issue? If you're going to cry robbery for the Volk vs Holloway 2 at least be fair enough to judge Izzy vs Rob 2 the same way lol
 
The guy who at BEST won 3 out of 5 versus Aljo??

You think Yan is better than Usman and Volk? Because he certainly hasn't proved it. I like Yan but I don't think he is or deserves to be #1, he couldn't even seriously hurt Aljo a single time in their 25min rematch.

imo if Yan was half as good as he's hyped up to be, he would've had far more success in his last fight. What's his best win?? Sandhagen? Worn Aldo at BW? Past prime Old ass Faber?

I do however agree he does qualify to be rated higher than #14. Definitely one of the PFP most fear inducing fighters to face.
I do think he's better than Usman and Volk. Just my opinion though so it's cool if you disagree.
 
If you’re saying that Israel should be ranked lower because he tried and lost a fight in a weight class larger than him, then you don’t understand the point of P4P rankings.

P4P means if they were all THE SAME SIZE, POUND FOR POUND. Not if they would lose to bigger people.
 
Get Jon off the list until he fights again. Stipe too. Fighters should get booted from both divisional and P4P rankings for inactivity if they haven't fought in 12 months and don't have a fight scheduled.

Dustin's ranked far too high, as is Glover.

Whittaker should be higher, and Colby needs to be on the list as well. Gane getting booted after the Francis fight wasn't right either.
 
3) Gane isn't on the list, despite being ranked above Stipe in their division and doing much better in their recent matchups with the champion.
They fight in the same division but they don't weigh the same. Gane usually weighs in at 247 lbs while Stipe weighs in around 233 lbs. That is taken into account in pound-for-pound rankings.
 
Volk has better wins than Izzy. Everything wrong with this list and that's the issue? If you're going to cry robbery for the Volk vs Holloway 2 at least be fair enough to judge Izzy vs Rob 2 the same way lol
Better wins? Finishing Whittaker alone is better than anything Volk’s ever done. Zombie and Ortega did not deserve the title shots and the fact they got smoked shows they had no business being there. Costa was on a great run, so was Bobby and Marvin.
 
Better wins? Finishing Whittaker alone is better than anything Volk’s ever done. Zombie and Ortega did not deserve the title shots and the fact they got smoked shows they had no business being there. Costa was on a great run, so was Bobby and Marvin.
Bro, Max is PFP far more accomplished than Rob. Those wins are not equal regardless of him finishing Rob the 1st time. Vettori beat Kevin Holland for a title shot lol
 
i do like this vid.

i wonder how P4P GOAT would go using this single piece of data?

Fedor, Jones and Silva are all above GSP. And Demetrious Johnson might not make the top 20 lol
How is Silva, a dude with double digit losses, better than the UFC goat, & 2 division champion?

Jones/Fedor can be debated for the PED don't matter faction/Pride Nostalgia faction.

Though, no matter how you put it Silva should be above GSP, PEDs not counting or not.

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1) Adesanya is ranked above Ngannou, despite trying to go up and getting handled.



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if thats not the definition of retardation and absolute zero understanding of MMA on sherdog, I dunno what is

Ngannou has got massive holes in his game, gets by on being a physical freak (although showing more skill recently) and has losses at HW.
Izzy is undefeated and almost bored in MW.

Izzy beats him 99/100 if scaled to the same size (ie what p4p is). Izzy is a better kick boxer than Gane, and Gane lit Francis up on the feet. Can you imagine if that was Izzy.
And Izzy has shown legit take down defense against all but elite wrestlers. Francis would not get Izzy down.
 
"Izzy clearly beat Yoel"

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I don't know what's dumber.. that or not understanding how Francis KOing Stipe a year ago is more relevant than losing a decision to him 4 years ago.

ok. Do your p4p argument. Scale Izzy up to walk around 225 LHW (cut to 205)
Scale Francis down to be the same. Hes still jacked, but a smaller version that walks round at 225, cuts to 205. Still has his power, but its nominaly less, cause hes at 205 now. Then you have Izzy, who will be bigger, taller, better range, stronger, hit harder than what he already does. Cause hes now a walkaround 225 instead of 195 like he now - remember still cutting to 205 in this scenario.

In what world does Francis win? He got lit up by Gane. Izzy is levels above Gane.
He beat Gane by using his very amatuer wrestling vs Ganes near non existent wrestling.

Izzy trivialises all takedown attempts from all but elite wrestlers.

Francis doesn';t have a hope in hell. In no world is he above Izzy in p4p.
 
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LOL TS.

So in your world, a fighter would have a higher ranking if they never take on the challenge of moving up.
Izzy is undefeated at his weight class.
Ngannou has losses to Lewis and Stipe.
Gane has 1-2 top 10 wins, Stipe is considered by many to be the GOAT and like Gane, only lost to Ngannou recently.
Whittaker and Colby fight at different weights and whittaker is clearly much better at MW than WW (hence the losses).
Moreno has a draw, a sub finish and a ud loss to the current champ (colby has 2 losses to the current champ).

You are just ignoring information that doesn't suit your narative and just looking for things to complain about.

Would I make the list exactly as it is in the OP?
No.
Is it a terrible list?
LOL only to ts.

1) Adesanya is ranked above Ngannou, despite trying to go up and getting handled.
2) Poirier is ranked below Holloway, despite beating the shit out of him twice at 2 different weights.
4) Colby isn't on the list, despite losing 2 razor thin fights to #1. Yet Whittaker and Moreno are included with multiple losses to #3 and #10 respectively.
 
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