UFC won't pay their fighters, so they go on hiatus, retire, or go to another org.

[jeskola]

Eh, pick a different career if you don’t like the pay.

That isn't really how adult life works.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

UFC won't pay their fighters, so they go on hiatus, retire, or go to another org..

- Holm on the shelf - contract dispute
- Nunes on the shelf - wants more money to fight
- Khabib - not being paid enough to consider fighting at the moment
- Conor, Nick Diaz, Nate Diaz not fighting because UFC is cheap
- GSP retired because UFC wouldn't come to terms for proper compensation on a Khabib fight
- The #1 Middleweight in the world, Mousasi, fled to another org to get paid.
- The #1 Flyweight in the world, Mighty Mouse, fled to another org to get paid.

I could probably go on, that is just off the top of my head.

You forgot Colby.






Most of us already have.

 

[surrealworlds]

Noone can force them to fight. Contract or not. The UFC CAN actually tell a fighter "Nope, you get what your contract states and thats it. If you dont like it, dont fight." And then hold their career in check until the fighter cooperates. The UFC has dones this numerous times. Fighters have tried this tactic to various degrees of success. Thats the problem, the fighters have very little leverage unless they are bringing in those red panty nights.

Rory left over money as well

Stipe is sitting on his hands because he wants a high paying title shot

What I find bizarre is how exactly they can "sit out". Don't get me wrong, i think the fighters deserve to get paid more but they have iron clad contracts that define their show and win money and PPV points if any. The only thing the contracts don't include is guaranteed performance bonuses.

Any yet they can sit out and demand more money than they signed a contract for.

A little bizarre

 

[Loiosh]

Maybe for prelim fighters, but many guys have left UFC for more money in other orgs

Those guy went from being good in the UFC to a starring role in a lesser organization. Big fish in a small pond.

I like that it works this way.

 

[Hugh G Rection]

but many guys have left UFC for more money in other orgs

While this may be true, no one (that I can think of) has left that the ufc wanted to keep.
If they want you to stay, they'll pay more than anyone else out there.

 

[Loiosh]

Now you’ve really done it TS. You’re gonna have the shills scrambling looking to spin every point you made in the UFC’s favor. It’s never the UFC’s fault. They never underpay. Professional fighters just don’t want to fight!

Very few of them "want" to fight.

Most of them would probably play ping pong if it paid even close to what they're making now.

Except of course the skill level in ping pong is a thousand times as high and none of them would be in the top million players.

 

[Loiosh]

That isn't really how adult life works.

That's exactly how life works.

I've completely changed profession a few times and made some damned good money doing so.

 

[Congo66]

not really true, also other orgs allow you to have sponsors.

that reebok money aint shit

That is retarded logic. Nike, Adidas etc aren't falling over themselves to sign unknown MMA fighters in Bellator to multi-million dollar deals.

Cain $450k to lose to Ngannou in a non title nothing fight.
Bader $150k to beat Fedor in a title fight.

So you really think Bader is getting $300k+ for whoever makes his shorts and for some ads on them?
I could have gone with Overeem, Stipe, DC who earned more but Cain and Bader both fought recently.

 

[DeathStroke]

"more" does not equal "enough".

Wal-mart pays "more" than K-Mart.

You're kind of dumb. Whatever fighters are willing to fight for is "enough". If they don't like the pay, they should go to school, box, find a different career etc. People don't have the right to get paid whatever they want to work in whatever field they want. No amount of crying about "should" or "fair" will change that. Want to make money? Pursue a high paying career.

 

[jeskola]

That's exactly how life works.

I've completely changed profession a few times and made some damned good money doing so.

You are the exception to the rule then, congrats!

 

[Loiosh]

right, so what part of what i said is innacurate..?

great argument you put forward there, really showing your intelligence, great work

I agree with most of what you said.

Not the GSP part, though.

He came back and beat the MW champion who many thought was going to beat him.

He has talked about fighting Khabib at LW and has made test cuts to hit that weight. Khabib at LW sure as hell isn't an easy fight.

If he fought Conor I'd agree with you, that wouldn't be a fight it would be an execution.

 

[gaspam]

Put me on ignore! One less shill for me to deal with! You spineless wimp!

that's a great arguement.... lol..... that dude blasted you with logic/ facts and you have no answer other than emotional dribble

 

[jeskola]

You're kind of dumb. Whatever fighters are willing to fight for is "enough". If they don't like the pay, they should go to school, box, find a different career etc. People don't have the right to get paid whatever they want to work in whatever field they want. No amount of crying about "should" or "fair" will change that. Want to make money? Pursue a high paying career.

It isn't about getting paid "whatever they want". It is about getting paid in equivalence to the profit they generate, or at least somewhere in the ballpark. UFC is the "Major League" of this sport - this isn't a regional scrap at an indian casino we are talking about, or a minor league hockey franchise. Fighters expect more pay in relation to generated profit, like other major league athletes. That is why some try to form a union, like some of the other major league sports have.

 

[Ying Li]

Next UFC contract w Holm must require her to fight with a new WMMA Reebok Thong.

 

[Black Paladin]

You forgot Colby.






Most of us already have.

ice-cold/10

 

[GueseGuy]

that's a great arguement.... lol..... that dude blasted you with logic/ facts and you have no answer other than emotional dribble

He didn’t have any facts Wtf you talking about lol. Just another shill defending his man’s honor smh.

 

[SpecialDelivery]

Here comes the “they didn’t force them to sign the contract.” So let’s just ignore the near-slave like contracts, the numerous attempts to bury the Ali Act, the blurry line between employee and independent contractor that the UFC creates, and the piss poor revenue percentage that fighters receive right? It’s all good because they signed the contract right?? All these tactics are ignored because they “knew” what they signed for right??

Exactly right dummy.
Do they not know the money before they sign???????
Do they have OTHER options in life??????
(Yes, EVERYONE has other options in life)
And what is it to you????
Do they pay your fucking bills???
If you care that much about what other people are payed instead of yourself than you're a fucking loser who needs to get off of sherdog and get a life.
So yeah, here comes that argument.......dummy

 

[Loiosh]

You are the exception to the rule then, congrats!

Really? You haven't seen people do this all the time as the times change?

My father's 77 and I watched him do it four times. He retired a millionaire.

Industries collapse all the time. You need to adapt to thrive.

Also, we're talking about young fighters here. They aren't entitled to be millionaires because they made it to the UFC. If that's the goal and they aren't good enough (because it's an insanely difficult gig) then maybe they need to do something else.

 

[GueseGuy]

Exactly right dummy.
Do they not know the money before they sign???????
Do they have OTHER options in life??????
(Yes, EVERYONE has other options in life)
And what is it to you????
Do they pay your fucking bills???
If you care that much about what other people are payed instead of yourself than you're a fucking loser who needs to get off of sherdog and get a life.
So yeah, here comes that argument.......dummy

Paid* just prove how stupid you are. Well I mean you have to be stupid to feel the way you do.

 

[jeskola]

Really? You haven't seen people do this all the time as the times change?

My father's 77 and I watched him do it four times. He retired a millionaire.

No, actually, I haven't. Sure, when an athlete reaches retirement age, they need to branch out. In the meantime, they have already dedicated a huge portion of their life to becoming a professional fighter in the Major League of MMA. Do you think Mousasi is going to become an investment banker, or the Diaz brothers are going to become Insurance executives?

Also, we're talking about young fighters here. They aren't entitled to be millionaires because they made it to the UFC. If that's the goal and they aren't good enough (because it's an insanely difficult gig) then maybe they need to do something else.

young fighters? Go back to the original post and look at the list again.