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Zuffa only gives such a shit because their moneymakers are at stake. Cant have that.
WADA is a legal entity, now? Show me the court precedent.
I think the Ufc are hoping for Olympic standard type protocols such as a 2yr ban for a first failed test, 4yrs ban for a second failed test & a lifetime ban for your third failed test.
Didn't know this, Tks.This has now changed to 4 years under the new WADA code for 2015. Which is why 4 years is being bandied around.
Didn't know this, Tks.
Four year bans sound impossible. It's just them over-promising and under-delivering. An actual four year ban would never stand under legal scrutiny. Regardless of PED violation, imagine someone going without income for four years. Yeah, right.
Plus they are issued by athletic commissions and not the company. It's just PR talk until they try to implement anything.
Here's a solution: don't fucking cheat. They know the penalty. They're effectively being given 5 months to get clean. If they don't, too fucking bad.
Fighting in the UFC/Bellator/WSOF isn't a right. If I go to work in the oil patch, and get shitcanned from the industry for failing a drug screen, it's no different.
I think the Ufc are hoping for Olympic standard type protocols such as a 2yr ban for a first failed test, 4yrs ban for a second failed test & a lifetime ban for your third failed test.
List of doping cases in athletics:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_athletics
Fighters prolly average what, 2 or 3 fights a year. The current 9mth suspension has no teeth as it means they're only missing out on 1 or maybe 2 fights.A firing from a profession could get you blacklisted, but an enforced ban? I guess a professional license can be suspended.
Four years, however? I'm not seeing it. The "reasonable" standard at this point is 12 month suspension or less; I'm not aware of many fight license suspensions going longer than that. Four years is impractical; they might as well call it a lifetime ban.
A firing from a profession could get you blacklisted, but an enforced ban? I guess a professional license can be suspended.
Four years, however? I'm not seeing it. The "reasonable" standard at this point is 12 month suspension or less; I'm not aware of many fight license suspensions going longer than that. Four years is impractical; they might as well call it a lifetime ban.
I think the Ufc are hoping for Olympic standard type protocols such as a 2yr ban for a first failed test, 4yrs ban for a second failed test & a lifetime ban for your third failed test.
List of doping cases in athletics:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_athletics
Minimum ban for doping increased from two years to four
Drug cheats in sport face a minimum four-year ban under new rules which came into effect from 1 January.
Changes to the World Anti-Doping Code, which unifies anti-doping rules for global sports, have increased the suspension for doping from two years.
pseudoephedrine, :He said the stimulant was contained in a sinus medication he had been taking for allergies.
The Washington Capitals center dropped his appeal against the International Olympic Committee ruling that he committed a doping violation. In return, he was issued with the minimum sanction of a reprimand and cleared of any intention to cheat.
Personally, i'd prefer a 2yr ban for a first failure, 4yr ban for a 2nd failure & a lifetime ban for a 3rd strike.Olympic bans have their own logic since they only compete every four years, or two years if you add in the Winter Olympics. For a sport that competes weekly to monthly, I see four years as excessive.
Note I'm in favor of strict testing and outing all cheaters, but I'd like this to be in line with the "reasonable person" standard. Four years for a sport that regularly fights sounds over the top.
Olympic bans have their own logic since they only compete every four years, or two years if you add in the Winter Olympics. For a sport that competes weekly to monthly, I see four years as excessive.
Note I'm in favor of strict testing and outing all cheaters, but I'd like this to be in line with the "reasonable person" standard. Four years for a sport that regularly fights sounds over the top.
They can't ban people from the sport, but they can ban them from the UFC. Just like they did to Palhares.
Aaand just like that, i'm already kinda liking this new 4yr ban for a first offence.So olympic athletes only compete every four years? What do they do the rest of the time?
And its not just olympic sports, its ALL Sports that subscribe to the WADA code.
Say for instance a cyclist banned for four years, he misses
Four Tour de France (the pinacle of cycling)
Four World Championships
Four Giro d'Italia
Four Vuelta Espana
Four paris Roubaix, Tour of Flanders, Liege Bastogne Liege as well as countless other races and events.
And the olympics (which is pretty low on the list of priorities).
(And to make it worse, most cycling teams have now signed an agreement saying they will not sign riders convicted of doping)
A track and field athlete misses multiple world championships, multiple prestigious events, national championships, pan american games, commonwealth games
A fighter banned for four years misses maybe 10-12 fights
If you were to actually make it fair, and make bans on an "per event" basis, the ban in MMA would need to be about 10 years to be comparable to other sports.
4yr ban for a first offence seems harsh even to me & i f'n detest PED cheaters.
you are viewing the athlete as an employee
if an athlete is contracted to a sporting body they agree to abide by their rules and regulations with usually built in that these rules and regulations may change. If a sport is signatory to the WADa code they in turn take on their rules and regulations.
Generally disciplinary hearings (in the US) regarding athletes involved in WADA sports are dealt with by the American Arbitration Association rather than a general legal court, and any appeals are dealt with by the Court of Arbitration for Sport, so yes, they are legally binding within sporting parameters
(good case in point is Lance Armstrong who tried to challenge USADA's jurisdiction through the Texas State Courts and it was thrown out)
It is a sport, it is not a basic fundemental right in life like employment is. Weve seen many thousands of athletes banned for 2 years without any legal recourse in regards employment law including american's. That will not change.
What will have to happen however, is all contracts will need to re-signed.
IF UFC decide to follow the WADA code from July 1st then all fighters/employees will need to sign new contracts containing clause that the UFC now adheres to the WADA code.
Failure to sign the contract will render the current contract null and void. simple