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UFC is eroding the sport of MMA.
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People don’t want Poatan to fight Ank?
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They cater to the AVERAGE viewer. There's more money to be made. AVERAGE viewers don't care about best skills. AVERAGE viewers care about being entertained. The number of AVERAGE viewers trump the number of hardcores.
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You’re an idiot if you believe that was his reasoning.
Francis wanted to participate in another sport and was asking for waaay more than he’s worth.
Said it then and still stands true, the UFC was smart for not giving into his ridiculous demands.
But keep believing that your boy Francis is the modern day Robinhood.
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Francis was looking after number 1 and good for him. We all should at work.
The fact the deal appears to have crippled the PFL and he's only fought one absolute can there shows the UFC were right not to concede to his demands too.
What's best for Francis Ngannou isn't what's best for the MMA org necessarily
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A huge chunk of Poatan fans are Ankalaev deniers
I'm honestly not sure what your objection is as there isn't much content other than name calling.
I think Mike Tyson heavily influenced Francis and caused him to demand too much.
I have no inside info, but you can see how the conversation went:
First interview
Second interview
Mike clearly states that Francis shouldn't work as a contractor with no benefits and tells him he's worth more. He at least planted the seeds.
Of course UFC wouldn't let Ngannou box. Dana likes to keep the fighters poor because he's a psycho.
It really depends on your perspective to consider the UFC smart for maximizing short term profit over sustainability and growth. I disagree and believe UFC should obviously provide benefits for their fighters. The fighters aren't even employees, they're contractors who are paid less than any other athletes by percentage.
And Francis is much closer to Robin Hood than I'll ever be. He's invested a bunch of money back into Africa already.
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You might have difficulty understanding this, but the UFC has actively undermined competitor organizations. They sign all the top talent, so even if someone like Ngannou leaves the UFC, he has no credible opponents to fight. And when they can't kill a competitor, they just buy them out.
If the Ali Act were brought to MMA and brought mandatory 1-year maximum contracts to MMA fighters, the UFC dominance would be broken. Then promoters could start putting on MMA events with actual top talent that the UFC couldn't possibly hold a monopoly over.
So yes, the UFC is actively stunting the growth of MMA for the sake of their monopoly on the sport.
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Imagine being down this bad to write up all this utter nonsense because you're having a hissy fit that I pointed out that right now at this very moment PFL is actively icing the Bellator fighters they acquired. Not the UFC.
You're down bad man. Step outside and touch some grass.
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I don't think the Ali Act would be good for the UFC or fighters long term. Love or hate boxing it is a goddamn mess for most athletes and fans. Sure pay is awesome if your one of the few. But for many it is scraps.
MMA has proven you build an event around a few names and fans just don't tune in (ie: Affliction as a perfect example, all the orgs that failed).
The reality is most fans just want to follow the UFC as they have been branded into MMA=UFC.
A lot of UFC issues could be easily be resolved by forming a Union/Association for the UFC fighters. I think the business model as a whole is very good. Let's face facts, the UFC's main issue from a hardcore fan perspective is revenue sharing and just in general a voice at the table. Beyond that, it trivial shit.
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good take, and i generally agree. when the ufc first got onto fox, the ufc really pushed mma to turn more into a pure sport than ever before. anyone remember all those crazy stats fox was trying to push? it looked a bit goofy, but at least it was an effort. it seems everyone involved soon realized this approach wouldn't work since mma at the end of the day is prize-fighting, and regular people couldn't give a shit about the percentage accuracy of a fighter's striking, and other nonimportant details.
at the end of the day, big personalities and characters are what sell fights. the fighting is there because yes it's exciting, but the casual fan is really there to see a certain fighter win, or lose. there has to be emotional interest for most fans or they will tune out.
at the end of the day, big personalities and characters are what sell fights. the fighting is there because yes it's exciting, but the casual fan is really there to see a certain fighter win, or lose. there has to be emotional interest for most fans or they will tune out.
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Been a fan of the sport for many years, since 1993 to be precise. I know that I'm getting older and having more responsibilities will have an impact on how hooked I'm into the sport. But hell, I could remember like yesterday the beginning of the end. To me it was the Fox deal. I'm not going to point every single thing out because I'll be writing a wall of text ( if I'm not doing it right now lol ) but as of 2024 we have an extremely watered down product, more expensive than ever with less stars than ever and tons of old, washed fighters on their way out. Imo the UFC knows that and they are desperately trying to compensate by hosting events in the sphere or inviting trump all the time… which brings me to another thing I despise. Me and a shit ton of mma fans don’t pay to watch political propaganda. We want good fucking fights, athletes who are at their peak going at each other. If I want to see fucking politicians I’ll watch cnn, pbs or fox.
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Yeah, keep my human cockfighting pure like real sports with tournament brackets, mandatory title defense, and a player's union!
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So no, nobody has any actual response to PFL buying Bellator only to ice every single one of their fighters for an entire year and no plan to let them fight soon?
But the UFC is the problem here?
Okay okay okay.
But the UFC is the problem here?
Okay okay okay.
No one can because they’re all hypocrites.
People only hate the UFC because it’s the cool thing to do. You got people on here talking about their favorite fighters PPV points and how they don’t get enough, when those same people don’t even purchase the event, the bare minimum they could do to support their so called “favorites.”
Ngannou is probably the reason why those Bellator fighters are not getting fights.
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nothing wrong with pro wrasslin inspired business tactics when running a fight promotion. WWE is literally fake fights yet pack out stadiums to the brim with people who all know its fake yet they showed up in droves.. Obviously they are doing something right and promoters of anything should take note.
People have been saying time and time again that merit based match making does nothing except cuck the fans out of the fights they wanna see. People are saying over and over that these tournaments are what is killing PFl and what will kill GFL before it even gets off the ground. There is a time and a place for tournaments, such as when there is a vacant belt with no clear cut number 1 contender. Then you bust them out. Otherwise stay away from that shit. Even fake wrasslin knows to keep tournament systems to a minimum so they can set up title "fights" earned by somebody running their mouth and received a crowd reaction indicating the fans are behind them getting a title shot.
People have been saying time and time again that merit based match making does nothing except cuck the fans out of the fights they wanna see. People are saying over and over that these tournaments are what is killing PFl and what will kill GFL before it even gets off the ground. There is a time and a place for tournaments, such as when there is a vacant belt with no clear cut number 1 contender. Then you bust them out. Otherwise stay away from that shit. Even fake wrasslin knows to keep tournament systems to a minimum so they can set up title "fights" earned by somebody running their mouth and received a crowd reaction indicating the fans are behind them getting a title shot.
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