UFC FN 128 - Barboza vs Lee - Atlantic City

[Karmello]

I'll probably loose some hair but he will win a split decision mang

So it's the opposite of easy

 

[DarkneT]

So it's the opposite of easy

I was being ironic

For the boys



I do think he wins though Corey is awful

 

[Karmello]

I was being ironic

For the boys



I do think he wins though Corey is awful

I'm really not sure who wins this one, wouldn't be surprised either way. Slightly favour Anderson tho, so I put some € on him at +108, but I think I will hedge when the odds on cummins will get better in the next couple days.

 

[zeckdo]

You from PA NJ or NY? I was considering going to this too, but this card is meh. I connected to Barclays wifi and was able to live bet, was pretty hard to score fights live, but I KNEW rose was winning that fight after round 4, was so caught up in the moment I didn't live bet her +300 thouhgh

 

[Oblivian]

Anderson may be in trouble if Cummins can make this a wrestling match. If Anderson had some power, I'd feel comfortable playing him.

 

[mkess101]

after further research there's only one good bet on this card but you americans with your 10 dollar units will ruin the line before I get it so I will reveal it at a later date when my money is down.

Sorry, we are all poor in this 3rd world wasteland called the U.S.

Anyway, I get that it's frustrating if you are a bigger bettor and lines get ruined by smaller bets. But if I'm betting $50 or $100 I'm just not worrying that a guy who wants to bet $500 or $1k might get a worse line due to my wagers.

 

[DarkneT]

I'm really not sure who wins this one, wouldn't be surprised either way. Slightly favour Anderson tho, so I put some € on him at +108, but I think I will hedge when the odds on cummins will get better in the next couple days.

Cummins is ever improving to be fair to him and I think he will be the better wrestler and I know for a fact he's got the chin advantage

Corey... I don't trust in any way
Dude retires after Shogun beats him, gets a second wind? And a nickname change comes back to beat the worst LHW on roster, gets his confidence back to get two life changing KO's back to back

Pat is game as fuck and I've never seen an ounce of quit in him, he's the kinda guy I want fighting for my money

 

[mkess101]

Cummins is ever improving to be fair to him and I think he will be the better wrestler and I know for a fact he's got the chin advantage

Corey... I don't trust in any way
Dude retires after Shogun beats him, gets a second wind? And a nickname change comes back to beat the worst LHW on roster, gets his confidence back to get two life changing KO's back to back

Pat is game as fuck and I've never seen an ounce of quit in him, he's the kinda guy I want fighting for my money

He's game yeah but gets rocked badly by marginal strikes (as does Corey to be fair) to the point where even though he might want to continue, he can't effectively operate in there.

 

[Naught2Sixty]

So strange to see two competitors (Edgar & Swanson) coming off of stoppage losses to the same dude. In a short amount of time as well.

 

[t6p]

NJ. Atlantic City is a little less than an hour away with no traffic.

Yeah I lb Rose after the 4th. I had it 2-2 so that price was insane. Hoping wifi in Boardwalk Hall is just as good.

From top to bottom I think this card might be better than Barclay's. But I took a date to Barclay's, this one if for the boys, so different experiences altogether. Convenient having casinos and clubs to walk to after the fights are over and youre drunk and high as fuck

Yea, I think overall this card should be more fun to see live than 223 ended up being. I'll be there too.

 

[DarkneT]

He's game yeah but gets rocked badly by marginal strikes (as does Corey to be fair) to the point where even though he might want to continue, he can't effectively operate in there.

True but I don't think Corey's the guy to wobble him
Heavy hitters have given Pat trouble
And if you look at his resume it completely embarrasses Corey's

 

[mkess101]

True but I don't think Corey's the guy to wobble him
Heavy hitters have given Pat trouble
And if you look at his resume it completely embarrasses Corey's

What?

Best win for both is probably Jan. Corey looked eons better vs OSP before the late head kick KO loss (Pat got blasted in rd 1 while Corey was on his way to winning before he got caught). Pat's win over ACJ looks good now but back then ACJ was WAY more unpolished and nowhere near the guy he is now.

Guess I'm not seeing at all how Pat's resume is clearly better. He's lost to better guys I guess? Their resumes honestly look pretty similar to me.

And a lot of people (me included) thought Corey beat Shogun. And let's not act like it was weak strikes that finished Corey either. Insane head kick by OSP and KO'd by Jimi who is a big hitter.

 

[DarkneT]

What?

Best win for both is probably Jan. Corey looked eons better vs OSP before the late head kick KO loss (Pat got blasted in rd 1 while Corey was on his way to winning before he got caught). Pat's win over ACJ looks good now but back then ACJ was WAY more unpolished and nowhere near the guy he is now.

Guess I'm not seeing at all how Pat's resume is clearly better. He's lost to better guys I guess? Their resumes honestly look pretty similar to me.

And a lot of people (me included) thought Corey beat Shogun. And let's not act like it was weak strikes that finished Corey either. Insane head kick by OSP and KO'd by Jimi who is a big hitter.

All fair points friend

But your guy got finished by Gian
And mine didn't

You glossed over that bit eh

 

[Sham5916910]

What?

Best win for both is probably Jan. Corey looked eons better vs OSP before the late head kick KO loss (Pat got blasted in rd 1 while Corey was on his way to winning before he got caught). Pat's win over ACJ looks good now but back then ACJ was WAY more unpolished and nowhere near the guy he is now.

Guess I'm not seeing at all how Pat's resume is clearly better. He's lost to better guys I guess? Their resumes honestly look pretty similar to me.

And a lot of people (me included) thought Corey beat Shogun. And let's not act like it was weak strikes that finished Corey either. Insane head kick by OSP and KO'd by Jimi who is a big hitter.

Exactly this. Corey beat jan much easier than pat did and was comfortable against osp while pat got sparked in r1 after getting nothing going. Got robbed against shogun too. If shogun didnt floor him last 5 secs of r1 or r2 corey wins a comfortable dec. Pat never wins easy always in a war. Outside the manuwa fight corey was robbed against shogun and was less than a round away from beating villante and osp. If the guy had a chin hed have one loss. Hes actually pretty skilled.

 

[mkess101]

All fair points friend

But your guy got finished by Gian
And mine didn't

You glossed over that bit eh

Yeah that's one fight sure. But look at both wins over Jan. Corey dominated him and Pat eeked out a close split.

Remember, you claimed Pat's resume "embarrassed" Corey's. I made no such claim the other way.

 

[DarkneT]

Yeah that's one fight sure. But look at both wins over Jan. Corey dominated him and Pat eeked out a close split.

Remember, you claimed Pat's resume "embarrassed" Corey's. I made no such claim the other way.

Mhm I also think pats win over Jan is worth more than Corey's
As there is two years separating the wins and Jans been looking much better as of late

Above all else... when two wrestlers match up it usually ends up a sloppy brawl, who's chin do you want your money on?

 

[Sham5916910]

Mhm I also think pats win over Jan is worth more than Corey's
As there is two years separating the wins and Jans been looking much better as of late

Above all else... when two wrestlers match up it usually ends up a sloppy brawl, who's chin do you want your money on?

Pats standup is pretty awful and hes never shown any power. Corey has solid stick and move boxing and hes only been kod by big punchers at least something pat isnt. If you are telling me this will be a standup fight i 100% want my money on corey. Corey also has a better gas tank infact its pretty darn good cardio for 205 and he is the faster guy. Pats also 37 9 years older.

 

[mkess101]

Mhm I also think pats win over Jan is worth more than Corey's
As there is two years separating the wins and Jans been looking much better as of late

Above all else... when two wrestlers match up it usually ends up a sloppy brawl, who's chin do you want your money on?

Neither chin, but I will take Corey's striking skillset every time over Pat's and it's not close.

 

[DarkneT]

Pats standup is pretty awful and hes never shown any power. Corey has solid stick and move boxing and hes only been kod by big punchers at least something pat isnt. If you are telling me this will be a standup fight i 100% want my money on corey. Corey also has a better gas tank infact its pretty darn good cardio for 205 and he is the faster guy. Pats also 37 9 years older.

Hey that's cool bro I'm not hating I'm debating

If you can sit for 15 minutes with money riding on Corey's chin that's your business
Mine will be on Pat I think he's got a decision or a ko in the bag

Don't forget.. your boy walked away from the sport (red flag)
Came back and beat Sean whatever
And then got two serious KO's
(I will give you he wasn't looking bad against OSP, but a lot of people look good against OSP until he pulls a Hail Mary)
Who knows where his minds at going in here, and his health

 

[Sham5916910]

Hey that's cool bro I'm not hating I'm debating

If you can sit for 15 minutes with money riding on Corey's chin that's your business
Mine will be on Pat I think he's got a decision or a ko in the bag

Don't forget.. your boy walked away from the sport (red flag)
Came back and beat Sean whatever
And then got two serious KO's
(I will give you he wasn't looking bad against OSP, but a lot of people look good against OSP until he pulls a Hail Mary)
Who knows where his minds at going in here, and his health

Pats chins just as bad. So at plus money id rather back the more skillful youthful mma fighter who could still be improving at only 28. Pats hit his ceiling started too late.