UFC Fight Night: Vieira vs. Tate

Kamais_Ookin said:
grant is the much better play imo, i don't understand either.
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Much better. grant can take the wrestling route, which is what I’m expecting

calderwood just punches air. People looking at her stats to cap fights will be very disappointed if they watch her vs santos.

also a strong possibility santos takes her down and beats her up for a few rounds. Jojo not good on the ground


I’m kind of coming around on tate. Should’ve hopped on her at +150. I definitely favor her in a 5 rounder. Have an itd bet on her and will play late round props. Likely a live bet scenario but may end up on the ml before the fight
 
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Kazda1 said:
Man this Calderwood/Santos fight is the worst. I looked up several stats prior to doing some taping and let me say that Calderwood is everything on paper you'd want to bet on. That is, until you see how she looks in the cage. Part of what sucks is that sometimes I think some fighters don't understand the part of what comes along with winning a decision is the ability to sell it to the judges. This is obviously when the fight is close. As much as the stats say she lands punches, it doesn't look like she is doing much in there. It's easy to see why she loses these close decisions.

OTOH, Santos is a horrible striker and Calderwood in theory should give her tons of problems (if she didn't tire and actually did more instead of being so flat footed). Santos herself gets tagged a bit and has shown the propensity to get stuck on bottom without trying to get up, as shown some against Robertson and the loss to Borella.

I was thinking I'd drop something on the Calderwood decision line, but this one's a pass for me. Back to the NFL.
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I have see a few other posters expressing similar disbelief at the Calderwood/Santos line. Santos fights are boring, repetitive, and one sided; just generally hard to sit through. She is though not only deserving of her current price but I expect she will close near -500 because of her demonstrated ability and the stylistic matchup.

Santos is the significantly more powerful striker? I don't think anyone who has watched her and Joannes fights would dispute that. I find Santos to be a better technical striker than Calderwood despite her low volume, some will disagree, but certainly neither woman has an appreciable technical striking advantage on the feet to sway the fight in their favor.

Santos is a very dominant grappler despite her lack of submissions. She has taken every single one of her opponents down and has an 86% takedown accuracy.

Far and away her best skill though is her ability to control her opponents. She has averaged nearly eight minutes of control time per fight and three of her four UFC opponents have been very strong grapplers (Modaferri, Robertson, Borella).

Santos it goes without saying is very physically strong, a good wrestler, which makes its hard to envision Calderwood (the former SW) not spending the entire fight on her back.

Calderwood is a poor defensive grappler and Santos aggressively hunts the crucifix and has come close to locking it up a few times. I think she gets it this time and potentially KOs Calderwood in the first round.

Calderwood appears outmatched everywhere which is why the line is so high. Obviously anything can happen but in this instance I would say a Calderwood bet is akin to lighting your money on fire. The price is high so I understand not betting it, but betting Calderwood given the stylistic matchup is something that I would strongly implore you or anyone to rethink.
 
Thesnake101 said:
Ha, I'm pretty much in the opposite camp when it comes to McKinney/Ziam and Durden/Aori. With Terrance, I think he'll be too sloppy with whatever approach he chooses, and will end up either getting caught with something, or outworked down the stretch.

Durden I think will be good enough to either choke Aori early, or at the very least be able to ground him often enough to get a decision win. Though I do agree that his price isn't too appealing for as flawed as he is, I did chuck his sub line on a couple silly parlays for the hell of it since it's at a staggering +570.
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Man, I wish they'd let me parlay those types of bets! I can only use money line and totals in parlays and I'm limited to 250 on the "win by X" bets. Tossing a few +400ish plays into a round robing would make for some great hits.
 
WOW WHAT A CROCK OF SHIT WHY DID THE CASINO LET ME PLACE MY BET ON ZIAM IF FIGHT WAS CANCELLED THATS GONNA KILL A LOT OF MY PARLAYS I BET
 
guesswhoseback said:
WOW WHAT A CROCK OF SHIT WHY DID THE CASINO LET ME PLACE MY BET ON ZIAM IF FIGHT WAS CANCELLED THATS GONNA KILL A LOT OF MY PARLAYS I BET
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News only came out not too long ago, books usually don't react to fight cancellations the day of too quickly.

What time did you place the bets?
 
svmr_db said:
News only came out not too long ago, books usually don't react to fight cancellations the day of too quickly.

What time did you place the bets?
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2 hours ago im not mad about my single bet on Ziam im more mad about my parlays because I alwalys place my parlays to win at least 500$ and since there random parlays id bet a majority of them have either the over or 1 of the 2 fighters
 
Well there goes my only strong lean

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guesswhoseback said:
2 hours ago im not mad about my single bet on Ziam im more mad about my parlays because I alwalys place my parlays to win at least 500$ and since there random parlays id bet a majority of them have either the over or 1 of the 2 fighters
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Do they not make the Ziam fight a push in that case? That's what happens whenever one of the fights in my parlay gets nixed.
 
125 on pinheiro by ko at 5/1
100 on Tate rnd 4 at 31/1
100 on Tate rnd 5 at 31/1
 
Thesnake101 said:
Do they not make the Ziam fight a push in that case? That's what happens whenever one of the fights in my parlay gets nixed.
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Ya thats what happens but they make us wait 8 days for the payout in case the fight gets reschduled within the 7 days not just rescheduled but if they fight the single bet I will get my money right away. I dont care about the push I care that each one of my parlays were purposely made for at least a 500$ payout now if 1 hits it could possible be less depedning on how much the ticket is for
 
guesswhoseback said:
Ya thats what happens but they make us wait 8 days for the payout in case the fight gets reschduled within the 7 days not just rescheduled but if they fight the single bet I will get my money right away. I dont care about the push I care that each one of my parlays were purposely made for at least a 500$ payout now if 1 hits it could possible be less depedning on how much the ticket is for
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That's messed up, shady as fuck.
 
Post 2 Decision said:
Haven't had a lot of time this week to dig into this card, but I like a bunch of dogs here.

Brady/Chiesa I'm torn, so I'll take Chiesa as a dog

Loma as a dog looks fun, I worry about the size difference but I always do with Loma fights and it's never really a problem.

Why is Jojo +275? Last I checked, Santos was dogshit... What am I missing? She gonna take Jojo down and sub her easy?

Anyone got a read on Lutz/Sabitini? I'm split again, don't remember much of Tucker Lutz.

I like Ziam if he escapes round 1 obvs

Might take a stab at Hughes because Pinheiro is a pretender, just don't think Hughes is good though
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@UFCIsNOTRigged

Keep making shit up about me, I'll keep telling the truth about you

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UFCIsNOTRigged said:
Making shit up?

You wrote Santos was dogshit, I wrote she would KO Calderwood in the first round which she nearly did.

Maybe watch the fights next time instead of wiki-capping?
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I asked "What am I missing?"
I never said her striking was dogshit, like you claimed.

You got 1 right, congrats bro. Keep it up.
 
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