News UFC class action certified!

The death of mma is upon us. Once the Ali Act is in effect there will be no leverage to make the best fight the best.
I think the product won't visibly change much, at all, from the spectator's point of view, and for the fighters (particularly those not at the top) it will be a vast improvement. Add to this Reebok's reign of terror ending soon, and things are looking on the up-and-up.
 
Dems put us here idiot. Time arent gonna change.
Spoken like a true conservative. Complaining (politically even, as if that's such an important part of how you identify) about fighters actually having the chance to get a fair shake.... smh
 
I have a hard time imagining behaviour worse than was already revealed. We already know they were setting up unfavorable matchups for fighters who were being difficult or at least threatened to do so. Deliberately burying them on prelims and on shit cards.

Unseal those docs and lets see those juicy morsels.
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The death of mma is upon us. Once the Ali Act is in effect there will be no leverage to make the best fight the best.
UFC already does this and they pay fighters shit. At least the Ali Act will bring about better pay.
 
No idea. It would would be wildly irresponsible to speculate.

Unless there is a smoking gun showing UFC committing actual crimes nothing changes.

Even then it’ll likely means UFC just settles for a larger amount.

BEFORE ANY THAT THERE IS STILL THE APPEAL PROCESS.

Nothing to get exited about.
Ufc may actually end up committing to organization wide contract changes, such as shortening the contracts, among other changes, in a commitment decision, as is done in other antitrust matters, in addition to settlement of course.
 
I think the product won't visibly change much, at all, from the spectator's point of view, and for the fighters (particularly those not at the top) it will be a vast improvement. Add to this Reebok's reign of terror ending soon, and things are looking on the up-and-up.
What do you think the Ali act does for the fighters?
 
Ufc may actually end up committing to organization wide contract changes, such as shortening the contracts, among other changes, in a commitment decision, as is done in other antitrust matters, in addition to settlement of course.
The contracts generally cover 1-3 years. I agree that they may change some practices but I still don’t expect widespread change and I don’t expect the plaintiffs to ultimately go to the mat for change.
 
The lawsuit is entirely premised upon the notion that the UFC is a monopsony, which the plaintiff lawyers are not going to be able to prove because it isn't one.

Bellators existence as a major buyer of services levels the MMA talent market to ensure competition is not imperfect. Bellator has deep enough pockets that they were able to retain Michael Chandler for his entire career up until this point, he obviously could have been signed by the UFC 6 years ago, but he stayed.... If the UFC had monopsonic power that reality would not exist.

This is a cash grab by disgruntled ex fighters, and while I 100% support them grabbing money from Dana & WME, don't fool yourselves into thinking there is legitimacy here. Theres a 0% chance this goes to any sort of legal trial, the plaintiff lawyers getting class action status just serves as an additional piece of leverage to force the UFC to settle because fighting the case would open them up to embarrassing public scrutiny and cost tens of millions of dollars.
 
The lawsuit is entirely premised upon the notion that the UFC is a monopsony, which the plaintiff lawyers are not going to be able to prove because it isn't one.

Bellators existence as a major buyer of services levels the MMA talent market to ensure competition is not imperfect. Bellator has deep enough pockets that they were able to retain Michael Chandler for his entire career up until this point, he obviously could have been signed by the UFC 6 years ago, but he stayed.... If the UFC had monopsonic power that reality would not exist.

This is a cash grab by disgruntled ex fighters, and while I 100% support them grabbing money from Dana & WME, don't fool yourselves into thinking there is legitimacy here. Theres a 0% chance this goes to any sort of legal trial, the plaintiff lawyers getting class action status just serves as an additional piece of leverage to force the UFC to settle because fighting the case would open them up to embarrassing public scrutiny and cost tens of millions of dollars.
The plaintiffs law firm certainly wins above all....
 
What does this mean for people that aren't in the know?
look up ali act, (potentially) better pay, more protections against strong arm tactics by promoters, no pun intended

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The plaintiffs law firm certainly wins above all....

Yes, this is essentially just a legal form of extortion, because the UFC would rather settle the lawsuit than turn over the emails of their executives which would inevitably make their way into the press.

The lawsuit covers 2010-2017 so that would mean emails going back 10+ years, theres no doubt a UFC executive or two, or three, or twenty may have used inappropriate language about certain fighters. The plaintiff lawyers know this and so do the 5-10 ex fighters who filed the suit; they just want some cash and it looks like they are gonna get it.
 
Yes, this is essentially just a legal form of extortion, because the UFC would rather settle the lawsuit than turn over the emails of their executives which would inevitably make their way into the press.

The lawsuit covers 2010-2017 so that would mean emails going back 10+ years, theres no doubt a UFC executive or two, or three, or twenty may have used inappropriate language about certain fighters. The plaintiff lawyers know this and so do the 5-10 ex fighters who filed the suit; they just want some cash and it looks like they are gonna get it.
Cases like this settle more because legal battles are fucking expensive, plaintiffs lawyers get paid on a share of the settlement so both sides have incentive to settle, and it takes away the uncertainty. I doubt it’s about emails becoming public.
 
What inherently leads to better pay?
well, i suppose more legitimately appropriated pay would be more accurate IF the state fights are held in has taken the appropriate measures to actually enforce the provisions of the ali act. I guess for the ufc the major issue would be that they would probably just continue doing most of the fights overseas where theres likely no way to enforce anything. Some of these guys as we've occasionally heard have notoriously bad contracts very disproportional to their draw, that to me sounds like a form of exploitation which is one of the main issues the act confronts.

So your question is still a ? I guess, but it COULD and SHOULD, but we know they'll(ufc) look to explore every possible way of making sure it doesn't.
 
well, i suppose more legitimately appropriated pay would be more accurate IF the state fights are held in has taken the appropriate measures to actually enforce the provisions of the ali act. I guess for the ufc the major issue would be that they would probably just continue doing most of the fights overseas where theres likely no way to enforce anything. Some of these guys as we've occasionally heard have notoriously bad contracts very disproportional to their draw, that to me sounds like a form of exploitation which is one of the main issues the act confronts.

So your question is still a ? I guess, but it COULD and SHOULD, but we know they'll(ufc) look to explore every possible way of making sure it doesn't.
I’m asking what specifically in the Ali act would increase pay?
 
The contracts generally cover 1-3 years. I agree that they may change some practices but I still don’t expect widespread change and I don’t expect the plaintiffs to ultimately go to the mat for change.
They have to be widespread changes... That's the point. Besides their shady little business deals will be out in public. If this fails someone else will try. Better to just come to a compromise. Anyway fuck the ufc. I'm sure a happy medium could've been reached, but no. Sure their practices are "legal" but you're supposed to negotiate with your partners in good faith. Always. Punishing someone for fighting out their contract with a bad match up to fuck up their marketability is bad faith. Reebok = poor taste.
Usada? Deducted from their pay. Counted as "compensation". How is invasive drug testing considered compensation? Medical aid would be nice. So obviously the wheel won't be reinvented but it's step in the right direction and fuck all the uff shills with the "stick to politics bro" nonsense. Mma won't necessarily end up like boxing if they just negotiate imo.
 

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