UFC 253: Adesanya v Costa

[kevo1295]

Shane Young has a good output and forward pressure, but he is very hittable. Meanwhile Klein, has a snappy jab, a very nice one two, and a lightning quick left high kick that's still dangerous in the third round. Think he's trouble for anyone in the stand up, and if he come in shape , I think he beats the shit out of Young.

 

[benebox]

Shane Young has a good output and forward pressure, but he is very hittable. Meanwhile Klein, has a snappy jab, a very nice one two, and a lightning quick left high kick that's still dangerous in the third round. Think he's trouble for anyone in the stand up, and if he come in shape , I think he beats the shit out of Young.

Young is the mma version of Carl Froch.

 

[Gas121]

What's your thoughts on Santos v Glover. I'm thinking Santos takes him out early. Have a lot of respect for Glover but I think the run comes to an end here

 

[Kamais_Ookin]

What's your thoughts on Santos v Glover. I'm thinking Santos takes him out early. Have a lot of respect for Glover but I think the run comes to an end here

That fight isn't on this card

 

[careto]

I think I'm taking Klein here too. He's a southpaw and Young is Orthodox and Klein looks to be the slightly faster striker. Need to do more tape but I'm on Klein @ +100 and +105 on MB/Bov

Klein's striking looks good, punches are a bit wide but a HECK of a left high kick -- reminiscent of crocop actually. Wondering how his TDD is since shane young is a pressure fighter who I would imagine would use grappling in his approach.

i am LOVING Khadis/Marques 2½ -115u. Don't see this fight going over 2 rounds as Khadis is pretty much kill or be killed within the first round.

I'm taking Klein, too. Young has high output and pushes the pace but lacks power and also lacks good take downs. Klein is a south paw and has a lower output than Young but his accurate and has more power and mixes his attacks using punches and kicks, whereas Young rarely uses any kicks. I don't think Young has a good enough take downs or good enough ground game to maintain the fight on the mat. They both stick their jab a lot but Klein being a south paw and with more power will make the difference. I'm thinking Klein wins via decision or TKO in the later rounds.

 

[crodor3]

any chance Costa is trying to bait Izzy into standing up and throwing and then taking him down ? feel like Costa is fully capable of turning this into a knockdown dragout ground fight..

 

[TheFightDoctor]

I'm taking Klein, too. Young has high output and pushes the pace but lacks power and also lacks good take downs. Klein is a south paw and has a lower output than Young but his accurate and has more power and mixes his attacks using punches and kicks, whereas Young rarely uses any kicks. I don't think Young has a good enough take downs or good enough ground game to maintain the fight on the mat. They both stick their jab a lot but Klein being a south paw and with more power will make the difference. I'm thinking Klein wins via decision or TKO in the later rounds.

I notice everybody is jumping on Klein. There's definitely value there at + money. But is anyone taking into account Young last fought almost 2 years ago at 25 years old. Be wary that 2 years of training with the killers at city kickboxing all while coming more into your prime at 27 while Klein been KOing not well known Oktagon fighters and training in Slovakia. Also, it's not the Apex ring .. normal sized ring will benefit the less dynamic striker and help him stay out of kicking range. Much is to be learned maybe Klein is the real deal, but im on Shane Young here. And gona keep adding the more he gets bet down

 

[PuertoRican]

I feel like Costa is fully capable of turning this into a knockdown dragout ground fight..

What does this mean exactly?

Knockdown + drag-out + ground fight = 3 different scenarios.

If Costa gets a knockdown, he'll likely win right then and there with GnP.

If it's a drag-out fight, then you expect Costa to fight smart and try to conserve his energy while picking his shots.

If it's a ground fight, you expect Costa to get a take down(s) and show grappling that he has never shown in the UFC before.

 

[TheFightDoctor]

What does this mean exactly?

Knockdown + drag-out + ground fight = 3 different scenarios.

If Costa gets a knockdown, he'll likely win right then and there with GnP.

If it's a drag-out fight, then you expect Costa to fight smart and try to conserve his energy while picking his shots.

If it's a ground fight, you expect Costa to get a take down(s) and show grappling that he has never shown in the UFC before.

Israel showed he knows how to handle himself on the ground and looking for real legit subs with his long legs and arms against gastelum. Israel initiated the choke and then on ground that triangle he out up looked very dangerous. I HIGHLY DOUBT Costa is gameplanning being anywhere near israels guard. Maybe pressure and up against the fence take deep breaths, wear on him. But on the ground id b very surprised.

 

[aerius]

It looks like Eubank odds are shortening for anyone who wants to jump on them while they are still +150

I generally go with the white shirt system in WMMA - bet against the woman who wears a white shirt in the fight.
I've been tracking the results over the last half year or so and it's been shockingly effective.

 

[Sadistics]

I generally go with the white shirt system in WMMA - bet against the woman who wears a white shirt in the fight.
I've been tracking the results over the last half year or so and it's been shockingly effective.

As ridiculous as this sounds, there may actually be something to it, though I wouldn't actually bet on it. Makes blood more visible and may subconsciously represent surrender? Idk I'm high.

 

[careto]

I notice everybody is jumping on Klein. There's definitely value there at + money. But is anyone taking into account Young last fought almost 2 years ago at 25 years old. Be wary that 2 years of training with the killers at city kickboxing all while coming more into your prime at 27 while Klein been KOing not well known Oktagon fighters and training in Slovakia. Also, it's not the Apex ring .. normal sized ring will benefit the less dynamic striker and help him stay out of kicking range. Much is to be learned maybe Klein is the real deal, but im on Shane Young here. And gona keep adding the more he gets bet down

There are things that cant be thought, like speed and power, which is what Young is lacking here. His punches have no snap and rarely uses kicks and has mediocre take downs. He has a lot of heart and brings the fight forward but Klein has power and accuracy, his jab has snap, and mixes up his attacks. I just think Young will find himseld in trouble on Saturday.

 

[TheFightDoctor]

There are things that cant be thought, like speed and power, which is what Young is lacking here. His punches have no snap and rarely uses kicks and has mediocre take downs. He has a lot of heart and brings the fight forward but Klein has power and accuracy, his jab has snap, and mixes up his attacks. I just think Young will find himseld in trouble on Saturday.

Very possible. Klein does look very impressive. Young has an injury that never will be 100% from a full knee sprain, he seems a little crazy and battles depression, yet I think the late call up on the muscle bound guy can affect him. Young can time the 1 2 and easily get Klein on his back I feel. Young has a background in kickboxing and seems durable so don't expect him to get KOd. Klein has gone 5 rounds, well 4 rounds in a 5 rounder and didn't loo too fatigued. Hes a physical specimen. But I think pressure and Klein on back foot could win for Young as Klein never fought striking that way. He only throws 2 punch combos. Low output, but very sharp n precise. I think 2 of 3 rounds young can pressure him get him against cage , Outland him. Ill b banking on him absorbing large strikes. I will hedge with Klein KO , but Young style is good for points , Klein can be taken down. Was controlled for 3 minutes in his last fight on ground before getting back up finally and showed his lightning quick left head kick for a KO , but the talent wasn't all that hes fighting. The guys ludovit beat, Young would beat 30 27 or ko them. Klein a KO fighter he KOd them. I have a feeling its Shane Young by Rear naked choke
I also have a feeling I bet him too early. Im gona get like +110 on young by fight night

Also , to add. Sure Young doesn't have much snap as hes more of a plodder. But dont be fooled. He got a KO 2 fights ago and last fight drilled Arnett at end of round and woukdve jumped on him with more time, possibly landing more bigger shots for a KO. Hes got power. As soon as Arnett came forward at ends of 2nd and 3rd rounds he got blasted. Klein comes forward. He dont want to be the guy backing up. By him coming forward he can walk into youngs shots also. Maybe Young gets KOd but I think he can eat shots even from an exceptional striker in klein

 

[Tirimasuperman]

As a Kiwi this thread makes for depressing reading

 

[Broe.]

I generally go with the white shirt system in WMMA - bet against the woman who wears a white shirt in the fight.
I've been tracking the results over the last half year or so and it's been shockingly effective.

Vieira always wears yellow. yellow stands for agression easy bet!

 

[Wiktoruspro]

Vieira always wears yellow. yellow stands for agression easy bet!

Eubanks is a good match up for her imo.
Viera has good tdd, her stand up isnt bad either but this ko loss is giving me problems to bet her.

 

[benebox]

I may just play some underdogs and hope for the best. Royval, Alex de Silva, Eubanks, Hughes all have value in my eyes but also wouldn't be surprised to see them all lose.

Only favourite I'm tempted by is Khadis, though it's hard to confidently bet on someone on a 3 fight losing streak.

 

[BigSteve]

started researching the most popular topics first. God damn I know Khadis is trash, but as a sambo champ he should not be losing to this jobber. Danilo wants to be in the clinch and is not athletic or strong at all. Khadis had that kind of fight against a gritty Herman and still took him down in the 3rd. Herman is known for being hard to take down, whole career at team Quest with Hendo and Alvey who is also super hard to get down and keep down. Even if Khadis comes out wild like in his first 2, he should get a KO

 

[TheFightDoctor]

started researching the most popular topics first. God damn I know Khadis is trash, but as a sambo champ he should not be losing to this jobber. Danilo wants to be in the clinch and is not athletic or strong at all. Khadis had that kind of fight against a gritty Herman and still took him down in the 3rd. Herman is known for being hard to take down, whole career at team Quest with Hendo and Alvey who is also super hard to get down and keep down. Even if Khadis comes out wild like in his first 2, he should get a KO

Someone in ufc is trying get this guy going. They matched up khadis to win this fight... -170 is very reasonable. Im hopeful to get sub -150 lines by fight night. Im strangely very confident on khadis here

 

[Naught2Sixty]

My theory is that thier brain gets all thier wires mixed up due to a lifetime of reacting that way whenever they see thier own period blood on the bed sheets.