UFC 251: Usman vs. Masvidal (7/11)

HockeyBjj said:
So it already seems there’s a consensus to stay away from Rose with her mental/emotional hitches. But really, really stay away from her this fight.

Apparently she lost two family members due to Covid. :( So when she does step in a cage I have no clue if she’s going to be very off, and taking a fight was just her trying to get some normalcy back and she’s just not in it, or if all that pent up rage at the universe will come out and she’ll be unstoppable. Brett Fabre after his father passed away type game. No clue.
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I mean she had the dolly incident at UFC 223 and put an absolute masterclass on Joanna Jedrzejczyk, if anything I'd say adversity that shakes her up is a confidence increase
 
Tirimasuperman said:
I mean she had the dolly incident at UFC 223 and put an absolute masterclass on Joanna Jedrzejczyk, if anything I'd say adversity that shakes her up is a confidence increase
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Yeah really can’t tell. Hence also staying away from betting against her
 
Are there any US sportsbooks that offer "FOTN" and other props like that? BOL? For the most part I use 5d, Bovada, and sometimes sportsbook
 
Also if you rewatch the fight she was piecing Andrade the fuck up. Say what you want about the slam not being flukey but a small adjustment puts her on her back instead of on her head where she’s fully capable in her guard.
 
TrueAscension said:
Also if you rewatch the fight she was piecing Andrade the fuck up. Say what you want about the slam not being flukey but a small adjustment puts her on her back instead of on her head where she’s fully capable in her guard.
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The slam was flukey but Andrade winning not, Rose was clearly tiring. But this fight is only 3 rounds and Rose knows now how massive her standup advantage is. She only has to focus on surviving in the 3d round this time. She should be able to coast to a decision.
 
GoldenWolf87 said:
I had seen another fight that is on my watch for the fight island. Leonardo Santos vs Bogatov.
Not sure what to make of that fight just yet but i do have an bit of issue whenever i see a older fighter trying to take out a younger fighter. I will be watching some tapes on both of these guys later this week. But what does anyone else think of this fight match?
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i think it's a great match-up for santos stylistically. he's the better kickboxer and is world class on the mat. yeah he's old but i don't see a clear path to victory for bogatov.
 
That slam was no fluke. Jessica made one chain move and it was over. Clearly the better grappler and with only 3 rounds shes gonna take rounds 2 and 3. Only took 7 min to finnish rose in a 25 min fight.
 
Sauna said:
That slam was no fluke. Jessica made one chain move and it was over. Clearly the better grappler and with only 3 rounds shes gonna take rounds 2 and 3. Only took 7 min to finnish rose in a 25 min fight.
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I'm a huge Rose stan and I don't think it was a fluke but I also don't think it's a repeatable result all that much either.
 
Broe. said:
The slam was flukey but Andrade winning not, Rose was clearly tiring. But this fight is only 3 rounds and Rose knows now how massive her standup advantage is. She only has to focus on surviving in the 3d round this time. She should be able to coast to a decision.
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They were both tiring. It’s a fight. That said Rose has gone 5 with JJ. Im sure she wasn’t as tired as you think she was
 
Naught2Sixty said:
I'm a huge Rose stan and I don't think it was a fluke but I also don't think it's a repeatable result all that much either.
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uhh isn't a fluke something that you're not able to repeat it even if you wanted to?
 
Style matchups dont really change over time unless a fighter falls off a cliff. Rose is a front runner a very dangerous front runner but front runner. Her best moments are at the beginning of rounds. Android is tough af and seemingly endless cardio. Took round 5 from JJ iirc. Maybe with another minute or so in the first round Rose might have finished Android too. Hard to know where both fighters are at. Rose could be improving more in the gym. Wittman is at an all time high bringing his fighters to the peak. Android suffering a brutal loss.

All I can say for certain laying almost -200 on Rose is a bit much but I'm rooting for my girl to win.
 
I feel like Rose was inches away a couple of different times from getting knocked out a la Karolina K. Her movement definitely helped her but she kept her hands down as she was backing up and if Andrade makes an adjustment, it could be lights out. I think Rose is rightful favorite though, but Idk if I'd bet it.
 
Rose is much better on the feet than Andrade. Moreover, I don't think Andrade can submit her on the ground. She also went 5 rounds with Joanna, so I'm not too worried about her cardio for 3 rounds. Just hope she hasn't some mental issues going on.
I like Yan and Volkanovski a lot. I really don't see what Max could do to win. Max doesn't kick so Volk wins the range fight with those leg kicks. I also think Volk is much stronger and could stall against the cage if needed. Pretty confident in that.
What I don't like is betting against a guy in Jiri that hits like a truck. I know Volkan is a real top 10 fighter and a stud, but it's difficult to have a read on Jiri: did he knock all those guys out because he only fought MW bums or is he able to do this also against a top 10 LHW in Volkan?
Still don't know.
 
rille31 said:
Dont know about that, stronger sure but Rose propably has the more technical jitz.
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Jessica is top 3 wrestler in the division. Rose has medicore tdd. Both have good bjj so whos better?
 
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