UFC 217 - Bisping vs GSP - NYC

[Orion]

Your starting to make me doubt betting borra as well lol and i just rewatched bamgbose fight again it wasnt a good performance.. Let me play devils advocate a little though. Borra is younger more athletic and physically bigger. He also has been training hard on his wrestling even went to a different camp for this fight to focus on tdd. Maybe he wasnt expecting bamgbose to wrestle with him at all and he wasnt prepared. Hendricks seems easy to prepare for. Also i believe their careers are on completly different trajectories. I dont think borra will be champ but his best days are ahead of him. Hendricks are long gone. He got ktfo his last fight and he is openly admitting he had a bad camp

Technique wise, he's not in the same galaxy as a former D1 champ after a few months of focusing on TDD. The raw size and power on the other hand....

 

[Bless]

Not even close to worried about improved wrestling training. There was enough in that bamgbose fight to see he’s not a good wrestler yet.

Borra size advantage and power are easily biggest concerns.

Im with ya JB! Lets cash these easy #elite moneys.

 

[rille31]

One of top 10 betting commandments dont bet chinny fighters against big punchers especially at lhw or hw. If you do at least keep it small.

Some #elite advice bruvva

 

[waiguoren]

He arguably beat Magny so you could say 1-2.

I was on Hendricks over Magny. I think that fight broke Hendricks a little bit mentally. He worked so hard for those takedowns and top control but in the end it still wasn't enough. I seriously think Magny is part of the reason for Hendricks's decline.

 

[EzFlyer]

Blaydes looked like shit in his last outing. I don't mind stabbing Oli sub with the massive experience gap.

I agree it was an off night for blaydes.

But people forget he still won 30-27...

 

[Sham5916910]

I was on Hendricks over Magny. I think that fight broke Hendricks a little bit mentally. He worked so hard for those takedowns and top control but in the end it still wasn't enough. I seriously think Magny is part of the reason for Hendricks's decline.

Magny dec end of r2 +1000 was gold

 

[Gugabe]

Magny dec end of r2 +1000 was gold

That fight was weird as fuck. Hendricks just got caught in 2 triangles despite mostly dominating Magny.

 

[vkram]

Not sure if someone pointed this out already but in the latest Embedded Hendricks said that the training camp "was a little rougher than he wanted it to be".

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[Sham5916910]

That fight was weird as fuck. Hendricks just got caught in 2 triangles despite mostly dominating Magny.

From memory i had it 1-1 going into r3. Magny started strong on the feet in r3 got taken down but did nothing. I think Magny had a decent sub attempt near the end of r3. I scored it for Magny but didn't expect to get the decision.

 

[Sham5916910]

Not sure if someone pointed this out already but in the latest Embedded Hendricks said that the training camp "was a little rougher than he wanted it to be".

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Great info - Hendricks is done.

 

[NorthernLights]

I'm on Borra KO and R1, hedging a bit with Hendricks DEC. I get the arguments for Hendricks and he has a reasonable path to victory but unlike Hendricks I feel I can trust my gut on this one.

 

[betrayedlurker]

Maxed Borra R1 and have a bit on the under. No chance Hendricks survives R1 more than 50% of the time, cosmic value. Boetsch's unathletic body kicks were giving Hendricks trouble before he quit and got KTFO. Borra kicks like a mule, his body kicks especially are brutal. Hendricks will quit from the first flurry. Tail me.

 

[wack3d]

Maxed Borra R1 and have a bit on the under. No chance Hendricks survives R1 more than 50% of the time, cosmic value. Boetsch's unauthentic body kicks were giving Hendricks trouble before he quit and got KTFO. Borra kicks like a mule, his body kicks especially are brutal. Hendricks will quit from the first flurry. Tail me.

or the bet could be dead after a couple seconds if Hendricks land a TD

 

[letmebangbrah]

I'm going small on the draw for Hendricks Borra. Just hoping pig rig can survive the first.

 

[quincy k]

Dunno, Boetsch has a respectable wrestling game, is physically very strong, and is a natural 185/205er. That more so seems to be the way to beat Boetsch if you're a Rockhold/Jacare style fighter with a threatening submission game.

His other MW fight in Lombard was a judoka that is chinny so it didn't seem applicable there either. I think if he's going to display his wrestling game it's going to be in this fight. An aggressive power puncher with no wrestling background.

then why did he go to jackson wink for one month to work on his striking

fat hendricks is not going to get a single or double on anyone at 185 and even if he does he probably wont be able to hold them down

 

[betrayedlurker]

or the bet could be dead after a couple seconds if Hendricks land a TD

We'll see. Hendricks' wrestling hasn't been division 1 level for years. He's done.

 

[MMA Goodfella]

So much regret not playing JJ + Borrachinha when I had the chance, I really think thats easy money.

You and I are simpatico on this card and are going to feast or famish together LOL

I didn’t get the best of odds but did do relatively well in my JJ + Borra double that I put 3.5u yon using $50u sizes.

I might hedge with Rose submission as I have Joanna in two more parlays at even better odds.

But like you I think this double is easy money most of the time.

 

[lifeisgood12345]

Oleineik went 4/7 takedowns vs Omiel and Blaydes went 0/14. Not bad for a guy whose biggest disadvantage in this fight is wrestling.

Even though Oleineik lost, he still had a dominant round 1 whereas Blaydes didn't comfortably win any individual round. And that's the only 1 of 5 UFC fight's Oleinik hasn't finished

Oleinik's downfall was Omiel's great submission D, as he stuffed submissions and punished with ground and pound at the same time.

Can we expect Blaydes to have submission D close to that level? He hasn't faced any submission threat that even sniffs Oleinik's level. Seems insane to make him this big a fave over such a dangerous finisher without even consistently dominating lower competition.

 

[quincy k]

Not even close to worried about improved wrestling training. There was enough in that bamgbose fight to see he’s not a good wrestler yet.

Borra size advantage and power are easily biggest concerns.

the biggest hendricks concern is his mindset.

dude just packed it in after takeing one solid shot against wonderboy and boetsch and has lost 4 out of his last five, his only win was one that couldve gone either way

he knows hes not going to do shit at 185 and hell probably check out the second he feels the heat when borra brings it. hendricks could do okay against a guy like sam alvey but a pressure monster like borra who comes to ktfo or get ktfo trying is not a good look for 2017 hendricks

 

[Sham5916910]

We'll see. Hendricks' wrestling hasn't been division 1 level for years. He's done.

Im looking for a small 2 leg bet. One leg is Walt KO second leg is Borra or Blaydes. After watching tape I prefer Borra. Do i have your #elite seal of approval?