UFC 217 - Bisping vs GSP - NYC

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Oleinik is +300 on bet365 right now, is this absolutely ridiculous value or am I sleeping on Blaydes?
 
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Oleinik is +300 on bet365 right now, is this absolutely ridiculous value or am I sleeping on Blaydes?
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Blaydes will have a huge edge in speed, cardio, standup, wrestling, and athleticism. He cuts down to 265 yet he's one of the fastest hws on the roster. He's 26 while Oleinik is 40. However, the experience difference is huge. I believe Oli has the most fights out of anyone in the ufc while Blaydes only has 9 fights. I took a stab at his +750 sub line but wouldn't touch the ML as I see no way he wins a decision, he's always running on fumes after the 1st round.
 
Let’s talk Curtis Blaydes. Is he really such a safe bet to put in a parlay? Nobody here thinks Oleinik has a chance of wrapping around him like an anaconda and beating him that way he beat Browne? Their striking isn’t that great, so if Curtis wrestles him to the ground, I’m sure Oleinik would love to go to the ground whether he’s on his back or on top.
 
DannyYag said:
Let’s talk Curtis Blaydes. Is he really such a safe bet to put in a parlay? Nobody here thinks Oleinik has a chance of wrapping around him like an anaconda and beating him that way he beat Browne? Their striking isn’t that great, so if Curtis wrestles him to the ground, I’m sure Oleinik would love to go to the ground whether he’s on his back or on top.
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Can't take much from the Browne fight, he visibly quit after he couldn't get the finish beginning of the 1st. I couldn't believe he tapped to that "choke".
 
Sadistics said:
Blaydes will have a huge edge in speed, cardio, standup, wrestling, and athleticism. He cuts down to 265 yet he's one of the fastest hws on the roster. He's 26 while Oleinik is 40. However, the experience difference is huge. I believe Oli has the most fights out of anyone in the ufc while Blaydes only has 9 fights. I took a stab at his +750 sub line but wouldn't touch the ML as I see no way he wins a decision, he's always running on fumes after the 1st round.
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+750 sub? Count me in!
 
Blaydes looked like shit in his last outing. I don't mind stabbing Oli sub with the massive experience gap.
 
Orion said:
Blaydes looked like shit in his last outing. I don't mind stabbing Oli sub with the massive experience gap.
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He didn't look like a -800 favourite but he didn't look like shit. I think we were all disappointed it wasn't a Blaydes/Millstead type domination. Omie's body type and southpaw stance made it really difficult for Blaydes to get his wrestling on. Omie had also been working with an Olympic wrestler for that camp as well as his previous camp. Most wrestlers would mentally fade after going 0/14 on TD attempts, but Blaydes switched up the gameplan mid fight and outstruck the striker in Omie. I was very impressed by his cardio, he set a high pace and looked ready to go 2 more rounds after the fight.
 
Sadistics said:
He didn't look like a -800 favourite but he didn't look like shit. I think we were all disappointed it wasn't a Blaydes/Millstead type domination. Omie's body type and southpaw stance made it really difficult for Blaydes to get his wrestling on. Omie had also been working with an Olympic wrestler for that camp as well as his previous camp. Most wrestlers would mentally fade after going 0/14 on TD attempts, but Blaydes switched up the gameplan mid fight and outstruck the striker in Omie. I was very impressed by his cardio, he set a high pace and looked ready to go 2 more rounds after the fight.
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I'll rewatch the tape right now because my memory recalls being very unimpressed.

In the meantime:

Johny Hendricks: I don't see a route back to a UFC title

 
Orion said:
I'll rewatch the tape right now because my memory recalls being very unimpressed.

In the meantime:

Johny Hendricks: I don't see a route back to a UFC title
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k he's always been slow, but now he's like a combination of slow, punchdrunk, and regular old fashioned drunk.
 
Sadistics said:
He didn't look like a -800 favourite but he didn't look like shit. I think we were all disappointed it wasn't a Blaydes/Millstead type domination. Omie's body type and southpaw stance made it really difficult for Blaydes to get his wrestling on. Omie had also been working with an Olympic wrestler for that camp as well as his previous camp. Most wrestlers would mentally fade after going 0/14 on TD attempts, but Blaydes switched up the gameplan mid fight and outstruck the striker in Omie. I was very impressed by his cardio, he set a high pace and looked ready to go 2 more rounds after the fight.
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Not to mention Omi is built like a cast iron fire hydrant making him basically impossible to take down if you can’t catch him in open space.
 
Pluck it, I’m taking Anderson here. Manuwa hits like a truck and there is no shame is getting KOd by him. What is OSPs road to victory if he doesn’t get a first round KO? He will gas and slow horrible. 1U for now, and then more after R1.
 
Orion said:
I'll rewatch the tape right now because my memory recalls being very unimpressed.

In the meantime:

Johny Hendricks: I don't see a route back to a UFC title
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Boy he’s got more and more bizarre. How can 40 yo Trinaldo make 155 but a 34-year-old 5’9” Johny Hendricks and his T-Rex wingspan cannot make 170 pounds? A 6‘3“ James Vick makes 155 pounds. The dedication or lack thereof is the only excuse.
 
Shoulder said:
Pluck it, I’m taking Anderson here. Manuwa hits like a truck and there is no shame is getting KOd by him. What is OSPs road to victory if he doesn’t get a first round KO? He will gas and slow horrible. 1U for now, and then more after R1.
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Why don't I throw 2k on Borrachinha? How the hell is Hendricks going to survive in a cage with that man?
 
MMA Goodfella said:
Boy he’s got more and more bizarre. How can 40 yo Trinaldo make 155 but a 34-year-old 5’9” Johny Hendricks and his T-Rex wingspan cannot make 170 pounds? A 6‘3“ James Vick makes 155 pounds. The dedication or lack thereof is the only excuse.
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I think the guy has just ruined his body from weight cutting, he's been cutting weight his whole life and he's probably been cutting large amounts his whole life.

The guy is 34 years old but he looks like he's closer to 44, it's taken it's toll on his body. It's also possible that Hendricks was a former PED user. Not saying there isn't a discipline issue with his diet as well but I think it's a lot bigger than that.
 
BatBoyJG said:
Why don't I throw 2k on Borrachinha? How the hell is Hendricks going to survive in a cage with that man?
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Only thing I'm concerned about with Borra is the takedown. Johny can still wrestle.

Edit: While I'm at it let's mention his gas tank as well. Hopefully he gets it done decisively in RD1.
 
Everyone's talking like it's a forgone conclusion that OSP gasses after round 1. When was the last time he gassed?
 
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