UFC 217 - Bisping vs GSP - NYC

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For anyone who can translate?

 

[iGnP]

Unpopular opinion alert:
JJ is way over priced and overrated.

She has no real power threat. Just pace and volume. Just look at the Penne tko. Penne didn't even go down. She was just a bloody mess from the bloody nose. They stopped it and Penne just stood there as if to say "aw darn."

Rose has more finishing ability than Joanna, imo. I said it.

Gonna be pretty heavy on rose here, be it ml, nsc, +points, itd, etc. Haven't decided exactly how I'll spread it out. (But have a strong lean.)

Also think people saying Rose is a quitter are reaching. Why? Cause she faltered in her first titleshot at a mere 22 years old..? She's a lot more seasoned now.

Am I staying she has this? Fuck no. JJ prolly still edges a decision or something. But the price is way off to me. And people parlaying her regardless of price are making a mistake, as I see it.

ill be on Rose too but mostly in a round 1 or round 2 prop. as this fight goes on, JJ is only gonna get tougher. do i think shes gonna finish Rose? no prob not. but there's a clear bet imo and that's either taking Rose ITD or early round props. I dont see a point in taking the ML, NSC, + points at all. just my two cents but im glad you're also on Rose

 

[EzFlyer]

Zahabi Dec +350. Yep.

 

[ill800]

Unpopular opinion alert:
JJ is way over priced and overrated.

She has no real power threat. Just pace and volume. Just look at the Penne tko. Penne didn't even go down. She was just a bloody mess from the bloody nose. They stopped it and Penne just stood there as if to say "aw darn."

Rose has more finishing ability than Joanna, imo. I said it.

Gonna be pretty heavy on rose here, be it ml, nsc, +points, itd, etc. Haven't decided exactly how I'll spread it out. (But have a strong lean.)

Also think people saying Rose is a quitter are reaching. Why? Cause she faltered in her first titleshot at a mere 22 years old..? She's a lot more seasoned now.

Am I staying she has this? Fuck no. JJ prolly still edges a decision or something. But the price is way off to me. And people parlaying her regardless of price are making a mistake, as I see it.

Jj overrated? Cmon. She’s the best female fighter of all time right now.


No woman has real knock out power. That’s why most of the kos you see are from head kicks.

It’s the accumulation. Jj is technically great. She’s also strong in the clinch. She doesn’t quit. Her cardio is fantastic.

Biggest play on rose? I understand liking her line since it’s gotten bet up so much but I don’t know about making that my biggest play.

I think submission is the only way she wins. Have a hard time seeing her outpoint champ

+500 is out of control

I hit jj at -380 so I could hedge here. Don’t know if I will though

Rose nsc +371 would probably be the way to go, although I can see jj stopping her

 

[ill800]

Rose visibly quit in the Karolina fight.

She also had a hard time with Tecia torres, who I thought Won the fight

Jj is a better striker and even harder to take down

 

[t6p]

Hendricks looks absolutely terrible here, a bit maniacal too.

Wow. I took at tiny stab at Hendricks decision +460 and I'm already feeling like I might as well have just burned the money. I actually feel bad for the guy at this point.

 

[Davem10]

What excuse are you, a new fan who's only been watching the sport for a few weeks, going to make up for GSP looking clearly regressed in the Diaz fight too?

He looked top of his game vs Condit

 

[EzFlyer]

Wow. I took at tiny stab at Hendricks decision +460 and I'm already feeling like I might as well have just burned the money. I actually feel bad for the guy at this point.

Still considering that but leaning towards passing after seeing Hendricks talking like a weirdo again...

I'm fairly big on Costa itd now. And some Costa Rd 1

 

[Sadistics]

365 has Borrachina RD1 +240. Went unusually big for a round prop, .5u

Hendricks hasn't shot a single td since moving to MW btw, not even after Boetsch rocked him, just kinda quit.

 

[EzFlyer]

365 has Borrachina RD1 +240. Went unusually big for a round prop, .5u

Hendricks hasn't shot a single td since moving to MW btw, not even after Boetsch rocked him, just kinda quit.

My god. I took +160 just now and was happy about it.

 

[Davem10]

Would gsp be coming back now if bisping wasn't champ. He seen an opportunity to chance being 2 weight champ and get a bit of cash. The record books would show it even tho it isn't really. Why in 4 yrs hasn't he come back before now to go for either belt if he was up too it. Doesn't take 4 yes to get hunger back. He ain't gonna defend if he wins. He's thinking bisping then connor

You seem to have a very good grasp of da stock market

 

[MMA Goodfella]

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[piglord]

hendricks on that lsd again. you know something is fucked when a 5'9 fighter is dying to make middleweight.

 

[MMA Goodfella]

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[Joseph Budden]

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[betrayedlurker]

Im in the process of watching GSP fights

Started with Koscheck 2, he looked stiff and predictable. I know he dominated that fight with the jab but he closed Kosh eye early in the fight literally round 1 and he couldnt put Kosheck away or seriously hurt him in the proceeding 20 minutes. Confidence increase on Bisping seeing how poor GSP looked 7 YEARS AGO

Couldnt find the Shields fight

Then i found the Condit fight, this was after a year off and after a knee injury. Was planning to make my huge bet on Bisping after i seen stiff sluggish GSP. Didnt happen, GSPs striking was much improved, much more varied and unpredictable more power better technique, his wrestling looked explosive and quick, i was very surprised how good he looked in this fight. He dominated Condit completely barring one slight lapse where he ate a flush head kick ( one of the sneakiest headkicks ive seen) and even still GSP was ontop ground and pounding Condit in less than a minute.

I need to watch Diaz and Hendricks fights but Condit is a big tall good striker and a real KO artist and GSP handled him easily enough. Im aware that is because of the TD threat too, but if he can take Bisping down then he shouldnt have much of a problem on the feet

The Shields fight is on fight pass and is a good one to watch for a confidence increase in Bisping. Shields' sloppy, slow ass pillow fist hooks were landing and damaged GSP's face.

Condit has the among the worst TDD in that division by the way.

 

[MMA Goodfella]

Hendricks looks absolutely terrible here, a bit maniacal too.

I swear more and more Johnny Hendricks reminds me of Paulo Filho at the end of his career. Soon he’s going to be talking to ghosts in the cage.

 

[Davem10]

The Shields fight is on fight pass and is a good one to watch for a confidence increase in Bisping. So long ago yet Shields' sloppy, slow ass pillow fist hooks were landing and damaged GSP's face.

Condit has the among the worst TDD in that division by the way.

Yeah that is true about Condit, plus the fact he isnt one to scramble back to his feet, he is happy to chill on his back looking for submissions. So cant read too much into the dominant wrestling on that one. It was more the fluid striking from GSP

Ive just missed +120 on Bisping while watching tape its now at +100 which is unfortunate but hey ho

 

[Card]

Short Notice:
- Michał Oleksiejczuk (in for G. Antigulov) vs. Ion Cutelaba [2 weeks]
- Ovince St. Preux (in for Patrick Cummins) vs. Corey Anderson [1 week]

Ring Rust:
- Georges St. Pierre 1449 days (knee injury)
- Michael Bisping 392 days (knee injury)
- Cody Garbrandt 309 days (back injury)
- T.J. Dillashaw 309 days
- Stephen Thompson 245 days (knee injury)
- Joseph Duffy 231 days
- Mark Godbeer 245 days (injury in July vs. Justin Willis)
- Randy Brown 266 days
- Mickey Gall 322 days (eyebrow cut)
- Corey Anderson 231 days
- Ricardo Lucas Ramos 273 days
- Aiemann Zahabi 258 days

Returning from TKO loss:
- Johny Hendricks (TKO by Boetsch) in June
- Corey Anderson (TKO by Manuwa) in March

 

[TheKingOwl]

For anyone who can translate?

He does not say much about the video. Ricardo Ramos. BJJ Purple Belt. He worked with his father as a mechanic and entered Jiu-Jitsu without commitment until he decided to become an athlete. He moved into the gym to train at age 16. He said he wants to be world champion in jiu-jitsu and UFC as well. Only that.