UFC 217 - Bisping vs GSP - NYC

[Gugabe]

I'm still holding with the u2.5 in Bisping/GSP. I feel like GSP either gets Ronda'd, or we get a Rush performance on Bisping's decrepit self.

 

[quincy k]

Fair enough but I’m not yet convinced Hendricks is at that point when he’s had some spirited performances recently and hasn’t talked of any retirements looming. Plus Munoz split his time coaching at that point

40-year-old juergen braehmer is a boxing coach and just decisively beat rob brant in the smw super six.

i can see the case for a no-play on borra but to bet 2017 185 hendricks is reckless. at +300, 350 maybe.

+200?

no way

i rather take borra round 1 at the plus money and hedge it with 2 and 3

 

[quincy k]

That’s it. GOATdricks made weight. #Easymoney train is officially boarding.

We all agree Johnny beat GSP right? Good. Then we all agree GOATdricks should be fighting for the MW title tomorrow. Instead he’s +200 to a rookie. The Lord is blessing us in a big way

what does a fight that happened foru years ago at a lower weight class have to do with tommorows fight

and this not even mentioning that hendricks is coming off a ko loss, two ko losses in his last five, in which he wasnt even kd in all his fights prior

 

[Joseph Budden]

40-year-old juergen braehmer is a boxing coach and just decisively beat rob brant in the smw super six.

i can see the case for a no-play on borra but to bet 2017 185 hendricks is reckless. at +300, 350 maybe.

+200?

no way

i rather take borra round 1 at the plus money and hedge it with 2 and 3

+200 is an easy one unit play. Your comparisons aren't as good as tape watch, and according to tape watch, Borra has very shitty defensive wrestling and a lot to prove to warrant a juiced line like that vs a vet whos got arguably his easiest fight in 8 years against said juiced prospect

 

[Monster Meat]

I'm still holding with the u2.5 in Bisping/GSP. I feel like GSP either gets Ronda'd, or we get a Rush performance on Bisping's decrepit self.

Gsp plays it too safe to get Ronda’d. If this thing ends inside it’s late in my opinion. Outside of bispings fluky early ko of rockhold he more often than not point fights to a decision.

 

[Joseph Budden]

what does a fight that happened foru years ago at a lower weight class have to do with tommorows fight

and this not even mentioning that hendricks is coming off a ko loss, two ko losses in his last five, in which he wasnt even kd in all his fights prior

It has everything to do with it when GOATdricks should be fighting for the MW title

but cmon bro I cant believe youre making me break character over this, but clearly I was just being humorous lolll

 

[Gugabe]

Gsp plays it too safe to get Ronda’d. If this thing ends inside it’s late in my opinion. Outside of bispings fluky early ko of rockhold he more often than not point fights to a decision.

I'm not saying it's rational. I just have this odd feeling that the loser of this bout'll look goddamned dreadful.

 

[Monster Meat]

I'm not saying it's rational. I just have this odd feeling that the loser of this bout'll look goddamned dreadful.

Yea I mean there are lots of unknowns in this fight but just the fact that bisping couldn’t ko Henderson who had a terrible chin doesn’t give me confidence he finishes gsp. I know he did have the h bomb to worry about but gsp will prob come in ready to shoot right away it’s just a Matter if he can get those takedowns.

 

[Joseph Budden]

Ramos -200 another retarded line if you guys wanna talk about someone besides GOATdricks for a bit.

Small on Zahabi dec and the over but Zahabi ml is getting tempting at this point. Ramos has great potential but he seems content to stay at kicking range where Zahabi will win. Haven't seen enough of Ramos' wrestling to believe or know how he'll do in that department which is easily the biggest worry.

 

[piglord]

rose sub +1100.

 

[quincy k]

+200 is an easy one unit play. Your comparisons aren't as good as tape watch, and according to tape watch, Borra has very shitty defensive wrestling and a lot to prove to warrant a juiced line like that vs a vet whos got arguably his easiest fight in 8 years against said juiced prospect

i dont know what you got after doing a tape watch of the boetsch fight. fightmetrics credited johnny with landing 10 strikes but thats debatable



johhny fights tim again, same result

 

[Joseph Budden]

i dont know what you got after doing a tape watch of the boetsch fight. fightmetrics credited johnny with landing 10 strikes but thats debatable



johhny fights tim again, same result

Yeah cause its a completely different style bruv. Boetsch used footwork and kicks. Borra is just as flat footed as Hendricks and will go right into the pocket where Hendricks prefers to fight.

 

[quincy k]

It has everything to do with it when GOATdricks should be fighting for the MW title

but cmon bro I cant believe youre making me break character over this, but clearly I was just being humorous lolll

why are you admittinlgly trolling on the betting forum?

this is not the venue for that

 

[piglord]

Ramos -200 another retarded line if you guys wanna talk about someone besides GOATdricks for a bit.

Small on Zahabi dec and the over but Zahabi ml is getting tempting at this point. Ramos has great potential but he seems content to stay at kicking range where Zahabi will win. Haven't seen enough of Ramos' wrestling to believe or know how he'll do in that department which is easily the biggest worry.

the amount of times we've seen fighters look great on their debuts (jumeau, tucker) and trash on their second fight, maybe we'll see the opposite with zahabi? line is definitely off.

 

[quincy k]

Yeah cause its a completely different style bruv. Boetsch used footwork and kicks. Borra is just as flat footed as Hendricks and will go right into the pocket where Hendricks prefers to fight.

tim boetsch and footwork should never be used in the same sentence

 

[Joseph Budden]

why are you admittinlgly trolling on the betting forum?

this is not the venue for that

Difference between trolling and being humorous. I can understand your frustration when you cant even recognize an obvious joke, but thats your problem bruv step your intelligence up

 

[Joseph Budden]

the amount of times we've seen fighters look great on their debuts (jumeau, tucker) and trash on their second fight, maybe we'll see the opposite with zahabi? line is definitely off.

Idk im kinda in the opposite boat. Before Zahabi vs Reginaldo I was saying how I didn't think Zahabi was very good and had a small bet on Reggie. After rewatch, I don't think it was a bad performance. Nothing mind blowing, but his game seemed a lot more fluid when he got comfortable than in the past. And unless Ramos reverts to balls out aggression like he has in regionals a few times, he tends to stay at kicking range with no boxing to speak of, just waiting for a powerful counter while he kicks. I think thats a great style for Zahabi to work his game when he seems to clearly prefer to keep the fight in that range

 

[waiguoren]

his wrestling still looked solid vs Magny

Totally disagree. As I said, I was on Hendricks there and was sweating bullets as he wore himself out trying to outmuscle Magny. The takedowns weren't technical at all and he was barely succeeding at getting them. Even after he got them, he still managed to lose rounds.

 

[rille31]

took tj +190

seems off

 

[Gugabe]

One more point that blows my mind re: Oleinik/Blaydes

I think Oleinik is better than Black Beast, which I know isn't a consensus opinion but let's say they are roughly equal (#9 vs #6 not far off)

Oleinik is a bigger dog against a 26 y/o prospect who hasn't consistently murked baddies than BB was against a top 3 HW of all time.

I don't get how BB line was close bc "lol HW one punch could end it", but the elite finishing ability of Oleinik gets no respect against much weaker + less proven competition.

To be fair that Werdum/BB line was completely retarded and BB was going to get embarrassed.