UFC 217 - Bisping vs GSP - NYC

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Stunna77 said:
Nah man, just those few sentences that actually give people a clue why you may lean one way is helpful. Appreciate it, sorry if it was a hassle to type out a few sentences on an online forum that people use to have conversations..
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Not everyone writes a screenplay for every fight. Also sorry you didn't have the energy to actually go through the thread and read the contributions on other fights.

From now on U and I can just discuss -500 dudes and if they might be worth a play. Maybe 50 to win 10. Then we can go to Subway and get a couple of subs with our winnings. I'll even buy the chips and sodas
 
lifeisgood12345 said:
I'm feeling Corey too. OSP isn't that good when he's not finishing guys who can't hang physically. And he has had bad times vs grapplers in the past like Bader + Teixeira. He can scramble back to his feet but his takedown D isn't taht good and I think Cody is going to bring this to the mat repeatedly and OSP is going to gas out at some point in round 2. If Cody can avoid the round 1 KO or another von flue he has a great shot of winning the decision IMO.
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You need to go in more detail why you like him dude.
 
betrayedlurker said:
Kennedy is a huge 185er and was 100% on anabolic steroids. We saw how he looked post USADA. Bisping would have whooped him if they fought again.

Bisping also improved his takedown defence significantly after that fight, which you could see against CB. CB's striking sucks but he's a light heavyweight D1 wrestler, and the way Bisping stuffed the takedowns was impressive.

Bisping's defensive grappling is actually an underrated part of his game. Only subbed once in his entire career, and that was after eating a flush Rockhold head kick.
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Yea. Kennedy straight looked like a dude out of a comic book that fight.

I agree Bispings wrestling is the most underrated part of his game
 
SBJJ said:
Yea. Kennedy straight looked like a dude out of a comic book that fight.

I agree Bispings wrestling is the most underrated part of his game
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SBJJ said:
Not everyone writes a screenplay for every fight. Also sorry you didn't have the energy to actually go through the thread and read the contributions on other fights.

From now on U and I can just discuss -500 dudes and if they might be worth a play. Maybe 50 to win 10. Then we can go to Subway and get a couple of subs with our winnings. I'll even buy the chips and sodas
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SBJJ said:
You need to go in more detail why you like him dude.
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No screen play necessary, just a couple coherent thoughts would be nice, so a discussion can actually be had. Also, no need to be a douche.
 
Had to finally pull the trigger on Mas and full rose/JJ props out for those interested.

1u Mas +160
1u Rose NSC +337
.2u Rose Sub +1085
 
Stunna77 said:
No screen play necessary, just a couple coherent thoughts would be nice, so a discussion can actually be had. Also, no need to be a douche.
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I offered to spring for the chips and drinks!! How is that a douche move?

What would I be if I made u pay?
 
Stunna77 said:
Not that weird when all of those lines have been out for weeks and discussed, while prelim lines just dropped. Seems pretty normal to discuss those fights...
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Bro. Feel free to bet any -400 or -500 guy u like. Me saying there are better spots IMO is not attacking you. You don't have to agree with people's plays.
 
betrayedlurker said:
Kennedy is a huge 185er and was 100% on anabolic steroids. We saw how he looked post USADA. Bisping would have whooped him if they fought again.

Bisping also improved his takedown defence significantly after that fight, which you could see against CB. CB's striking sucks but he's a light heavyweight D1 wrestler, and the way Bisping stuffed the takedowns was impressive.

Bisping's defensive grappling is actually an underrated part of his game. Only subbed once in his entire career, and that was after eating a flush Rockhold head kick.
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I was at the first Bisping / Rockhold fight and agree with what you say about Bispings defensive grappling. Also... I kind of agree with you about Kennedy... he looked average post USADA gassing within 1 round and having nothing. I personally don’t think GSP can replicate pre USADA Kennedy.
 
SBJJ said:
Bro. Feel free to bet any -400 or -500 guy u like. Me saying there are better spots IMO is not attacking you. You don't have to agree with people's plays.
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Wasn't the reason I called you out. If you are going to mock what other people are discussing then you should at least bring something more "worthy' of discussion to the table, i.e. the better spots you were referencing..
 
SBJJ said:
Yea. Totally agree. I'm a natural 175/180 guy. I currently weigh 195/200 and the difference is incredible. I understand I'm not an elite athlete but I just think a guy like GSP is not meant to be at 185. Add in the little training tape we have where he just doesn't look fluid or explosive
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I’m around 180ish normally but have been around 200 for the last 6 months due to bad lifestyle choices and I’m incredibly more lethargic and lumbered. Also we aren’t sure whether GSPs knee surgery’s have helped or hindered him since he stopped fighting.... and I don’t generally try and draw a lot of conclusions from tape for a lot of reasons including them letting us see what they want, holding back etc...
 
Even though I like Cody here, had to put a bit on TJ dec at +331. Hope lines come down so I can use it moreso as a hedge to Cody action, if not I will cheer for Cody and it will hedge my happiness as @Antagonist88 put it. haha.
 
Stunna77 said:
Even though I like Cody here, had to put a bit on TJ dec at +331. Hope lines come down so I can use it moreso as a hedge to Cody action, if not I will cheer for Cody and it will hedge my happiness as @Antagonist88 put it. haha.
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a tj finish is not out of the question, especially since he hates cody and will probably go for the finish until the final bell even if he is clearly ahead on the cards.

shane mosely had never been close to being stopped in almost 60 fights and quit on his stool against mundine because of a bad back
 
Stunna77 said:
Wasn't the reason I called you out. If you are going to mock what other people are discussing then you should at least bring something more "worthy' of discussion to the table, i.e. the better spots you were referencing..
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Go reread the post. I wasn't mocking. I was simply stating my opinion that a -400 or -500 fighter might not be the way to play this card with so many other spots. Sorry u got offended by that mega douche post. U even clarified right after you were not advising a play on a -400 guy essentially agreeing with the post you took offense to
 
I am thinking to hit Corey ML, but wondering if the price will got better or worse from now on. What do you think?
 
Stunna77 said:
Had to finally pull the trigger on Mas and full rose/JJ props out for those interested.

1u Mas +160
1u Rose NSC +337
.2u Rose Sub +1085
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Looks like Rose sub went down to 9.0 but Rose itd got up 8.6.
 
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