UFC 217 - Bisping vs GSP - NYC

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SBJJ said:
Yea I read that but I'm just not 100% sure why that's being said. I'd think he would not come out public with those feelings
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Kinda strange. He either wants to separate himself from "these people" by going public before the slaughter or is just lying.
 
SBJJ said:
Yea I read that but I'm just not 100% sure why that's being said. I'd think he would not come out public with those feelings
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It was on Patrick Cote's podcast which probably has like 3 listeners so not really public. Still a huge red flag.
 
conscience said:
Take jj vs rn fight. If we make a survey on sherdog with the question who will win, the results will most likely reflect that 4:1 probability. Now whether you want to convince yourself and others that Rose is a submission threat JJ has never seen or that jj is just gonna beat her up is a matter of taste and fandom, but the fact of the matter is the price is right, so either bet just pays the juice.
Some of you guys are long term winners, so you must be finding good bets mostly in the lower tier fights or maybe guessing the line movements, but for me, I mostly have time to research main cards, which offer correct lines. This is why I think Bisping is a good play.
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Main card lines are completely wrong all the time. It is not a fact that Rose/JJ is accurately priced, not by a longshot.
 
lifeisgood12345 said:
Main card lines are completely wrong all the time. It is not a fact that Rose/JJ is accurately priced, not by a longshot.
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But how do you know for sure? You only see one fight. I wish I had time to compare pre fight odds with how odds should have been after the fight, but its still highly inaccurate analysis. For example, after Cain got faceplanted in the first JDS fight, the two subsequent career ending beatings that followed would have been highly unlikely. My take is (may be way off and it's getting late here) is that we are all betting the public perception of the probability of certain outcome, but what the real probability is noone will ever know.
 
conscience said:
But how do you know for sure? You only see one fight. I wish I had time to compare pre fight odds with how odds should have been after the fight, but its still highly inaccurate analysis. For example, after Cain got faceplanted in the first JDS fight, the two subsequent career ending beatings that followed would have been highly unlikely. My take is (may be way off and it's getting late here) is that we are all betting the public perception of the probability of certain outcome, but what the real probability is noone will ever know.
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We never know anything for sure, but as a long time winner I know I am better at discerning probabilities than most.

If you don't have an edge at this you should be keeping your sizes to really small amounts and assuming you don't know the truth. But some of us can beat the main card lines which are not remotely perfect.
 
Looking for insight on choosing tickets to UFC 217

Looks like seats in sections 7-9 or 1-3 are similarly priced to 106-108 and 116-118...I feel like section 2 or 8 are the play but wanna make sure that I'm not missing anything that may make 107 or 117 better.
 
lifeisgood12345 said:
Looking for insight on choosing tickets to UFC 217

Looks like seats in sections 7-9 or 1-3 are similarly priced to 106-108 and 116-118...I feel like section 2 or 8 are the play but wanna make sure that I'm not missing anything that may make 107 or 117 better.
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Personal preference but unless your getting one of the first several rows of 2 or 8, I'd take 107 or 117. I like being elevated a bit, I feel like it gives you a better view of the action. Some people like the floor experience though, depends on what you're looking for.

EDIT: I see 8 is actually behind 8F. I'd def go for 107 or 117
 
lifeisgood12345 said:
Looking for insight on choosing tickets to UFC 217

Looks like seats in sections 7-9 or 1-3 are similarly priced to 106-108 and 116-118...I feel like section 2 or 8 are the play but wanna make sure that I'm not missing anything that may make 107 or 117 better.
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If you are happy to spend more, do it, but the $200 tickets in Block 105 on Ticketmaster are an incredible bargain, were originally $650. I sat in Block 120 for 205, so a worse seat than Block 105, and it was decent. Block 105 is easily a good enough seat unless for some reason you are super stoked by this card.

In general I recommend getting a tiered seat over a similarly priced floor seat, having some elevation is good because on the floor if you are sat behind someone tall, with a stupid haircut or hat, or who stands up a lot, they will be blocking your view.
 
t6p said:
Personal preference but unless your getting one of the first several rows of 2 or 8, I'd take 107 or 117. I like being elevated a bit, I feel like it gives you a better view of the action. Some people like the floor experience though, depends on what you're looking for.

EDIT: I see 8 is actually behind 8F. I'd def go for 107 or 117
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Those are also my preferences

I agree floor is great, if you are right u front

There are too many things in your way the further you get from the cage. Cameramen and the 8 pylons that hold the cage together block your view, not to mention you are looking through a cage

Getting elevation and looking down into the cage is the best imo. I would go mid to high row level 117 or 107. I went last year for the mcgregor fight and I was in 117 about 14 rows up I think

Also, keep an eye out on your emails. The day of the event I received an offer from ufc experience to bid on sitting next to a fighter, Bruce buffer or (i think) an octagon girl.

I ended up bidding at the last second on sitting next to the fighter. Thought it was fake. I ended up sitting next to Matt the legend Hughes in the front row right behind joe rogan. Got to stay there for a fight and a half. Saw boetsch knock natal silly.

It was an amazing experience. Matt was super cool, like sitting next to one of my brehs.

Luke rockhold and demi lo-thot-o were a few rows back behind me. Cowboy was sitting a few seats over to the left of me.

I was suited up, decked out with my roley on. Looked like I was someone important lol. Left the wife sitting by herself for a while haaaaa
 
I'm loving TJ as an underdog. Far more diversity in his output, Cody's been injured and I trust TJ's strength of schedule more. I also think there's a strong possibility of a hedge between Cody-KO and TJ-ML @ 2.88 and 2.46 respectively.

I think TJ's chin is meh enough that he isn't lasting to a decision if Cody's landing frequently enough to actually win a decision.
 
Is there something I'm missing with Dillashaw?

--More well rounded
--More proven to beat a wider range of fighters
--Elite work ethic
--Smarter than Cody
--2" reach than Cody the T-Rex
--Not dealing with a back injury
--Didn't get drunk and wrestle with an injured back

I see why Cody is a threat. He has a big right hand and he's super quick and it's hard to escape it. And he has good wrestling so TJ prob can't give him the Lineker treatment.

But Cody is really dependent on boxing for a guy with short arms not a ton of kicking or grappling. And he's not smart and he's hanging his entire resume on his Cruz win, which was Cruz's 3rd fight in a year with plantar fascitis.

And it sounds like Dillashaw won sparring more often back at Team Alpha Male...Cody says he knocked him out once and TJ says he won around 70% of the time. I think if Cody was winning > 50% he wouldn't be bragging about one KO. And yes Cody was younger then, but TJ might be the harder worker-- he is an insane gymrat and has made huge leaps under Ludwig. And being smarter, TJ is more likely to draw a quality gameplan from that past experience together.

Sure Cody might catch him and end the fight, but I'm not certain that he is the better fighter. He has faced no quality competition outside of possibly damaged Cruz, and Dillashaw has run through Barao x2, Lineker, Soto, Assuncao...and his loss to Cruz wasn't bad by any stretch but it was his worst fight.

Factor in the back injury and I could see Cody showing up as a shell of the guy who fought against Cruz and TJ running through him. And worst case this is a close fight. I don't see Cody dominating too often.
 
Jae Gibbz said:
Garbrandt just got hammered
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Sounds like Luca hit it. I was looking to make a play on him myself

He said he was betting today

His minions might put the number up a bit higher for Tj backers but +155 is probably the best he gets.

Looks like he hit Johanna too

She’s up to -500


Yea it’s showing he has two plays

Lol he never bets above -300 though
 
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SBJJ said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59f3f035e4b06ae9067ab8d2/amp
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With head coach Ludwig commuting to Southern California from Denver three to four days per week for this fight camp, Dillashaw has been doing supplemental training at Gracie Barra in Irvine and at the RVCA gym (home of UFC middleweight champion Michael Bisping, who headlines the UFC 217 card against Georges St-Pierre) in Costa Mesa. He’s also been working with two-time Greco-Roman wrestling national champion Darryl Christian at Studio 540, and sparred rounds with two-time Olympic gold medalist and WBO super featherweight champion Vasyl Lomachenko.
 
Had to hit TJ for 500 in case this is a blip.
 
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