UFC 207 - Nunes vs Rousey - Vegas

[LEMONZEST]

Can't Oliveira just grind Means out with takedowns?

Means is a really good fighter. However, he seems to be a bit frustrated in there of late and has had trouble really putting it together. He can also be passive at times. Oliveira on the other hand looked like a straight killer against will brooks who is a really difficult opponent. If Means does any standing around and staring in this fight Oliveira is going to be up on him in no time. I like Oliveira here because he seems to be in a good groove and showing crazy agression.

I am on Magny. Sure Hendricks could come out and smash him but I am ok with taking that risk. At least with Magny I know what I am getting and he comes out and performs consistently. Hendricks is all over the place with his weight and confidence so I simply cant play him here. I am happy to be on Magny for a few units and if he loses then fine.

 

[Rasdun]

Lol! The pressure is on.

do not set goals like that, it's a recipe for disaster. Just make solid, value - based Bets, and if you cap acurately, in the long-term youll profit way more than you would have if you invested it in the bank or conservative mutual fund

 

[Ukram]

That is one point about means I don't think mentioned fully is Tim Means mindset, he has been known to almost mentally give up and quit at times, I think against brown and especially magny we saw a bit of that.

Otherwise he does look to be a straight up killer, but if anyone can stir his mental pot its Brazil's cowboy.

 

[cagebrain]

I think the big concern is he has to stop using the mary jane this week. We'll see if he does an open workout and all that jazz, but this is def a concern imo

well, he's also not training hard on fight week, its mostly a recovery week. he's not doing 2 a days. Plus you corrected, according to you he can use it fight week

 

[cagebrain]

do not set goals like that, it's a recipe for disaster. Just make solid, value - based Bets, and if you cap acurately, in the long-term youll profit way more than you would have if you invested it in the bank or conservative mutual fund

who uses mutual funds ! MER is way too high... ETF's all the way

 

[Card]

Hendricks same nutritionist that has failed him in the past, same as Pettis

Hendricks - Up here at Stillwater, these guys get you ready for a fight, I didn't know why I didn't come back here sooner, my two striking coaches came with me, and my nutritionist Loutrition, it's our 3rd fight together, I'm finally trying this time, after I left team teamdown, I wanted to be a family guy, 4th kid, a father, my wife told me to be the athlete I was, I'm training harder, twice a day, I wasn't doing those things before, I wasn't mentally ready in my last fight, I couldn't fire, this time I am, my body couldn't sweat, I had a sharp pain cutting weight, it was pulling water from my organs, I don't know what's next, I don't want to go out on a loss, Magny is tough, my power vs his reach, I have wrestling and hoping strength as well, I opened up a gym, Hendricks MMA, I will teach wrestling

 

[Timurd123]

Reaching? Dude are you even reading what he's saying or just my comment? lol he's talking about going back to two a days, making sacrifices, having a heart to heart with his wife about where he's at. Interpret it how you want, but you don't decide to ramp up your training and reflect on what's going wrong cause you don't care imo.

He has said the same shit about finding motivation before, he says it a lot , I think he hasnt had any interest in a while, and I dont think this match up is the one who will get him fired up, if GSP came back sure, but Neil Magny I'm not so sure

I think he's trying to convince himself he cares


Also saying "I dont want to go out on a loss" is a huge red flag for me and a confidence increase in Magny

 

[iGnP]

The only fight that I haven't played yet is Magny/Hendricks. No idea what the hell to do on that one.

what's your stance on Lineker/TJ if you dont mind me asking

 

[Timurd123]

Hopping on Werdum

Put 2u on him +185, if the rumors are true and Cain doesnt get it going early I"m looking to smash lb too

I fucking love this card for betting, half of the fights are at evens and the other half has juicy dogs

 

[Card]

Means - it was in my creatine, so I don't take creatine anymore, feeling better at 170, I took hard sparring out, it's scarier to be broke than standing across from the guy, my whole life has been up and down, vent my frustration in a fight, 3 kids, 9,8,7, they are crazy, I spent alot of money on USADA court, and custody court (ex was going down the wrong path), I am done with court, I have to do Christmas shopping, I want to take the momentum from Oliveira, he was rude to Brooks, he had a target on his back when he stepped in from me, 4th fight in Vegas, family is coming, staying for New Years, I'm going to check out Vegas this time

 

[Joseph Budden]

This fool Means is taking creatine thinking that would be allowed? lmfao

Also, confidence increase his situation sounds similar to lemon with all these kids AND he has to go to court cause of his ex

 

[piglord]

Can't Oliveira just grind Means out with takedowns?

i think it's more likely he gets picked apart at range and elbowed into oblivion in the clinch.

 

[Card]

Lord GambLou bets Rousey (says it won't be a first round finish), is passing on Cain, likes Cruz

 

[Sham5916910]

Can't Oliveira just grind Means out with takedowns?

Unlikely imo. Cowboys td's are not good. He couldnt get brooks down in r1 only had success once brooks' rib went and brooks then mentally and then physically folded. I mention the brooks fight as i think people are overrating his takedowns due to this fight. Cowboys td's are not good and he has been fighting lw's. I do expect cowboy to land one or two takedowns but i expect him to have to work for them, and means' get ups are excellent so i can say with some certainty he wont be able to keep means down for long.

 

[Stunna77]

I added another unit to Werdum (now 3 total) with the news of Cain's injury. I get that he said he feels great and has been training the same as normal, but I highly doubt that is true. All of his training partners know he has a serious back injury with surgery already scheduled after this fight. They also know he is doing everything he can to not pull out, so there is no way they are going as hard as normal with him. Same goes for Cain himself, he has to be being more cautious, I mean he is taking cannabis oil to be able to stand up. Most people use that for the opposite,to sit down, mow food and chill. Good luck with dieting and training while constantly baked. lol.

 

[iGnP]

This fool Means is taking creatine thinking that would be allowed? lmfao

Also, confidence increase his situation sounds similar to lemon with all these kids AND he has to go to court cause of his ex

creatine is illegal...?

 

[Stunna77]

If Ronda flips to the underdog I will probably look for a way to play Ronda's sub line to guarantee profit should that outcome or Nune's ML hit. (2u +150 currently on that)

 

[Sham5916910]

Means is a really good fighter. However, he seems to be a bit frustrated in there of late and has had trouble really putting it together. He can also be passive at times. Oliveira on the other hand looked like a straight killer against will brooks who is a really difficult opponent. If Means does any standing around and staring in this fight Oliveira is going to be up on him in no time. I like Oliveira here because he seems to be in a good groove and showing crazy agression.

I am on Magny. Sure Hendricks could come out and smash him but I am ok with taking that risk. At least with Magny I know what I am getting and he comes out and performs consistently. Hendricks is all over the place with his weight and confidence so I simply cant play him here. I am happy to be on Magny for a few units and if he loses then fine.

Trouble putting it together? Dude he smashed howard and homasi and he was beating brown until he brain farted. Really dont agree with that.

The broken rib played a huge part in the brooks fight. Brooks was 2 0 up but folded mentally and it seems physically in r3. Cowboy has been beating lw's and last minute ufc debutants. Lets see how he handles a proper ww with excellent striking and someone can get up if taken down.

I just rewatched the magny fight for the second time in so many days and confidence increase means, especially bearing in mind that was 2.5 years ago.

 

[Joseph Budden]

creatine is illegal...?

Its one of the more powerful over the counter supplements you can take. I'm not keen to the plethora of banned substances, but I do know for sure USADA has a lot less effective supplements on the banned list so it seems pretty silly to be taking creatine and not expect something like Means' situation can happen to you

 

[Rebel_LioN]

Means turned Masvidal into a wrestler. That's respect any way you put it.

Cowboy only wins via pressing against the fence which is def possible. The lines are even which is what I like, I'm siding with Means to find his mark head/body while Cowboy has his hands down.