Media *** Tyson Fury vs. Francis Ngannou Post Fight Discussion MEGATHREAD ***

How does the fight go?

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websurfer said:
"When the fight started and we touched gloves, Fury said "Let me take you to school."

When I knock him down, I started dancing and I said:" You're not taking me to school mfer. You're a bad professor. How is that school going? Who is taking who to school? Because for me it's like I'm the one taking you to school.""

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Turns out It was just friendly banter during a tough fight.
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Can we have this moved out of the ufc forum mods?? Light heavies or perhaps the boxing one?
 
Nice, but he didn't say all this during the fight. He doesn't speak that fast.
 
I get that many of you find it boring compared to mma that's fine, mma is closer to real combat

But many saying it's boring, watch fucking BJJ, which is BORING

Boxing has way more drama and action than any fucking grappling sport

If you dislike boxing and grappling? Fair enough
But if you dislike watching 2 men punch the head off one another to watch othes butt scoot and grind on the ground? That's weird

I train a little BJJ and mostly Judo, but would I fuck watch any of them over boxing/kickboxing/muay thai
 
Kovalev's "Man Bag" said:
We'll find out the answers soon. I think a lot of MMA fans will be disappointed when he gets slept by a big puncher. That's my prediction. Later.
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The worst opponent for ngqnnou in boxing is usyk not wilder because of usyk's mobility and technique and southpaw approach. Ngannou may well be knocked out if he fights enough times in boxing but it will not be because of mere power. It will be because a boxer's team figured out the best way to nullify his style and impose their boxers style on his.
 
I'm still waiting for video footage from the corner/perspective behind Fury when the dance took place.
 
Andrusz said:
N'gannou's highest PPV buy is 350k against Miocic. He barely moved the needle and everyone acting like he was shattering records. He's not even in the same realm as McGregor.
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Which speaks to the racist appetite of American consumers and UFC’s inability to promote fighters outside of the great white hype (McGregor) and the dangerous black savage (Jones).

They deserve to miss out on billions of dollars until they fix the institutional racism embedded in their business model.

@colorles @haj02
 
Jake the Muss said:
Which speaks to the racist appetite of American consumers and UFC’s inability to promote fighters outside of the great white hype (McGregor) and the dangerous black savage (Jones).

They deserve to miss out on billions of dollars until they fix the institutional racism embedded in their business model.

@colorles @haj02
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Yes.
 
Sanserif said:
The worst opponent for ngqnnou in boxing is usyk not wilder because of usyk's mobility and technique and southpaw approach. Ngannou may well be knocked out if he fights enough times in boxing but it will not be because of mere power. It will be because a boxer's team figured out the best way to nullify his style and impose their boxers style on his.
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I never said Wilder was his worst match-up he's just the most dangerous. Usyk and Fury are fighting next. Then they'll rematch if the winner doesn't retire first. That leaves Ngannou with a slew of heavy hitters to try his luck against. Big punchers don't necessarily need to figure a guy out to beat them. There's not much to figure out about Ngannou. He could afford to sit back and wait to counter with Fury but it also cost him the fight. We have much better counterpunchers than Ngannou in the division and they all have pop. When he loses it will be because he's so hittable and he ran into a guy that could fully capitalize. Not because they had to solve some complex mathematical equation. Wilder didn't need to figure out Ortiz who was a much more skilled fighter. He didn't need to figure out Fury to nearly kill him. Power is the great equalizer. In MMA nobody could match Ngannou's combination of size, strength, and power but they can in boxing. That's the difference. Anyway, I'm done discussing this.
 
Kovalev's "Man Bag" said:
I never said Wilder was his worst match-up he's just the most dangerous. Usyk and Fury are fighting next. Then they'll rematch if the winner doesn't retire first. That leaves Ngannou with a slew of heavy hitters to try his luck against. Big punchers don't necessarily need to figure a guy out to beat them. There's not much to figure out about Ngannou. He could afford to sit back and wait to counter with Fury but it also cost him the fight. We have much better counterpunchers than Ngannou in the division and they all have pop. When he loses it will be because he's so hittable and he ran into a guy that could fully capitalize. Not because they had to solve some complex mathematical equation. Wilder didn't need to figure out Ortiz who was a much more skilled fighter. He didn't need to figure out Fury to nearly kill him. Power is the great equalizer. In MMA nobody could match Ngannou's combination of size, strength, and power but they can in boxing. That's the difference. Anyway, I'm done discussing this.
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If its just raw power, then wilder has met his match in ngannou. No boxer wil overwhelm ngannou with just power - its technique and mobility that can undo ngannou the best.
 
Deaths Head said:
You don’t want me to list them bc you know what your saying is pretty dumb ,this era alone has the most Olympic and national champs in one era .You also know Olympics only come around in time spans so there won’t be many current gold medalists which is another dumb thing to ask .

Usyk and Joshua are two gold medalists, Hrgovic and Joyce were both robbed their gold and actually last year they we’re considering over turning them when they found out certain judges were paid off in France . Tony Yoka is a gold medalists.

Zhang also is a medalist but got beat by Joshua at one point and dropped . I guess that really shows how overatted he is ? Lol

Up and comer Jalolov is also a gold medalist ,having 4 gold medalists in one era is not the norm and you had Klitschko a gold medalist dominating for over a decade but he’s overatted to and Lewis prior to him ? Lol

I know there’s more but it’s just a dumb concept when you tell me Olympics don’t matter when I can list champs that coincide with boxing success more but any logical person reading this will get the point .

You F”ed up here .

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So you couldn’t come up with a list, after you offered to make a list, got it lol. There are currently only 2 gold medalists in the P4P top 15 rankings. Why? Repeat after me, THE MAJORITY OF THE BEST BOXERS NO LONGER COMPETE IN THE OLYMPICS. The only current champion that is a gold medalist is Usyk. Olympic boxing is such a joke, because you can literally get a guy with 300 amateur fights, going against a guy with 100 fights in the gold medal round. Olympic gold no longer means professional success like it used to. There are more examples of Olympics gold medalists amounting to nothing than the other way around.

It’s a commonly known fact that Olympic boxing has been in decline for years.
 
mkt said:
He just went to an SD with the champ and is 37. He needs more top guys and big names like Wilder and Joshua, not "solid" fights to pad his record. If this happened 5 years ago, then maybe that makes sense.
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A fight against chisora at least. An unranked hw fight against someone who openly admitted he wasn't training or bothering is not enough to start competing at the top level. He's earned some high level entrance fights. If boxing promoters are smart they'd capitalise on a new draw not try suppress him. That said francais said he wil go back to mma in a dif org so maybe thats it for him at boxing.
 
Sanserif said:
If its just raw power, then wilder has met his match in ngannou. No boxer wil overwhelm ngannou with just power - its technique and mobility that can undo ngannou the best.
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This is heavyweight boxing. Anyone can be overwhelmed and Ngannou isn't even the biggest or hardest hitting guy in the division. He's a green pro boxer and he's up there in age. We've seen even the sturdiest chins crack from one fight to the next. I would wait to see who he fights next. It's not going to be Fury or Usyk.
 
ookii said:
Most MMA fans turned their back on Ngannou saying it was a mistake he left UFC and was scared of Jones. Now that Ngannou has surpassed expectations, the same fans took the opportunity to shit on boxing and turned it into MMA vs boxing fans.

I think boxing needed another star and Ngannou being added to the mix now makes things interesting
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Yup. And whether MMA fans get more into boxing or not, boxing fans are into Ngannou and respect the concept that it's at least POSSIBLE for an MMA striker to crossover and do legit damage in boxing. Conor put on a farce that boxing fans couldn't respect. Anderson cracked the door on MMA fighters possibly transitioning to legit boxing, but Francis just beat the reigning, lineal, HW champ of the world and he took that door off the hinges.

Boxing fans will always entertain the possibility that an MMA striker can crossover now. And that is probably better for MMA than MMA fans getting into boxing anyway.
 
not really for me. what boxing is now is what MMA will be one day soon, and it's not good. boxing is full of bureaucracy, politics, and corruption.
 
Mike Tyson is over rated. Extremely so.

He never came back from getting dropped to win a fight. Against the best of his era, he lost. Mike Tyson has no really big wins on his résumé. Nothing special about Mike Tyson.
 
Deaths Head said:
Fury is very good for 6”9 or whatever he is but he’s also a looping puncher with sloppy spots who flicks shots and uses back hands which is supposed to be illegal in boxing he also has to shift weight at times moving in southpaw stance to maintain balance if he’s punching going forward a lot . He doesn’t really use clean boxing and holds and hits the majority.

I don’t know I must be in the twilight zone because I’ve never seen a guy get so hyped up as the best pure boxer at heavyweight which isn’t reality . Joshua clearly has been that even with some losses and by far has better technique in every punch . He’s actually the best combination puncher at heavyweight since Mike Tyson when he lets his hands go and he’s 240 plus pounds .
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Joshua has very nice clean punches, really textbook technique. But he really lacks head movements, he is super stiff, the opposite of Fury.
 
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