Tyron Woodley's Unpopularity Explained by Din Thomas

[Squintz]

“People don’t like wealthy large black men who speak their minds.”

Like WTF is Lebron James?

 

[tonysmasseuse]

He wasnt saying everyone has those problems he was saying alot of people have been or at some point have known a total fuck up and thus people can relate

Everyone takes everything literally literally now a days and it makes understanding nuance and peoples points really difficult at times.

Doesnt matter anyway its all bullshit . People dont like twood a whole lot because he has been in a lot of boring fights . let him starch a fool or 2 and you will see a complete change on the popularity . Nothin to do with race or how human he is or any of that

Agree to disagree on the first point. Din is not a smart guy, and he is not helping Woodley one bit here.
Agree wholeheartedly with your last point. Woodley, frustratingly, is so boring, when he has all the tools to be truly great. And whining when he is blessed, like few. So annoying. Hope he steps his game up in the future.

 

[Black Paladin]

I like Din bit what a friggin load of crap.
So tired of the race card being used in every scenario imaginable.
As if there are no valid reasons to dislike Tyrun other than race.
Liberal/progressive ideologies are poison to our society.

No, you are the poison.

 

[MikalP]

Nothin to do with race or how human he is or any of that

can't really read these threads and say "nothing" to do with race. people definitely have racially charged reasons for disliking him. that doesn't mean that there aren't also other reasons, but race does play a factor for some people, though probably not the larger number of casual fans that don't pay attention to what fighters say or do outside of the octagon.

 

[MikalP]

“People don’t like wealthy large black men who speak their minds.”

Like WTF is Lebron James?

A guy who gets hated on by white conservatives for speaking his mind?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-possible-hate-crime/?utm_term=.acaced9afb5d

"Six months ago LeBron James reported racist graffiti had been spraypainted on the gate of his $21 million dollar Los Angeles mansion. The sports media immediately fell all over themselves to pronounce LeBron a heroic victim and cast the blame upon a presumed racist white person."

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...mes-to-shutup-and-dribble-he-went-to-the-hoop

""It's always unwise to seek political advice from someone who gets paid $100 million a year to bounce a ball," she said. "Keep the political comments to yourselves. ... Shut up and dribble.""

 

[GOATER]

UFC fans are full of racist....The Main demographic for the UFC, are Young White American Males.


Look at all the biggest fighters in the sport by era.

Conor, Ronda, GSP, Brock, Lidell, etc.


Anderson Silva, Rampage, and Jon Jones never were as big as they should...They were always #2 or below to a White fighter.

 

[AWilder]

Also, can't have a Din Thomas thread without this gem.

What is this all about?! Did dude backhand sucker slap Din?

 

[heatbag]

Naah man, people love Charles Barkley because he is genuine, flaws and all. He can be a scary dude too, especially with a golf club.

 

[MikalP]

Naah man, people love Charles Barkley because he is genuine, flaws and all. He can be a scary dude too, especially with a golf club.

Charles Barkley literally has a TV show about racism in America.

https://www.si.com/tech-media/2017/05/09/charles-barkley-racism-american-race-series

"“If you are black on television, you are probably going to be some kind of thug, gangster or portrayed in a negative light,” Barkley said.” If you are some type of Muslim, you are going to be blowing stuff up. If you are Hispanic you are going to be some type of gangbanger. I’ve felt like this for years.”"

He's felt it, too.

 

[mudrubble]

He said what he said and i think about it what i think about it.

But do go on feeling yourself, Samuel L Jackson imposter. Next time stick an ironic bible quote in there and you will be even cooler.

It's hard to sound crazy in so few characters but congrats. You did it!

 

[Swarthy]

He is a entitled turd.

The End he acts just like Rockhold and gets hated for the same reason.

 

[Gutter Chris]

can't really read these threads and say "nothing" to do with race. people definitely have racially charged reasons for disliking him. that doesn't mean that there aren't also other reasons, but race does play a factor for some people, though probably not the larger number of casual fans that don't pay attention to what fighters say or do outside of the octagon.

yea I can. Dont get me wrong all that racial shit is annoying to people but this is sports and if you are doing amazing things when the lights are on people tend to not give a shit about that other stuff so much , on the other hand run you mouth and bore people to tears or loose and you are gonna take the heat

This is sherdog people care way more about pleasing the just bleed god than they do inter sectional politics and racial identity issues

 

[mudrubble]

Calm down. Yes, Ali had his haters, then and now. BUT, in GENERAL his appeal was broader, especially historically. You'll be ok.

Ali was hated, villainized and thrown in prison and stripped of his title!

Do you guys know the fighting history you quote???

Tyron isn't NEARLY as hated as Ali was! He was a black Muslim!

Man, y'all really need some history on this stuff.....

(but I like you as a poster)

(even though you're dead wrong on this point)

(dead wrong)

 

[MikalP]

This is sherdog people care way more about pleasing the just bleed god than they do inter sectional politics and racial identity issues

again, you can just read these threads and racial identity issues are among the first things that come up by people who want to deny credibility to guys like Woodley - and now Din - for their comments on race

Woodley's last time talking about race in any sort of media outlet was, from what i can find, January of last year. if people on Sherdog didn't care about identity issues, they wouldn't still be bringing it up in every Woodley thread.

grand scheme, I don't think it's a "majority" opinion about Woodley's race, but it's impossible to deny that it plays a factor to a decent percentage of people on this forum

 

[mudrubble]

This is sherdog people care way more about pleasing the just bleed god than they do inter sectional politics and racial identity issues

More yes. But not exclusively no. Race plays into every interaction between humans WITH A FEW notable exceptions.

It's safe to say that if two ppl of different races are speaking, race factors into how they interact wtih each other 99% of the time.

Is it ever the ONLY factor? No.

Is it ever absent? Only in a FEW notable exceptions.

 

[ftpngo]

Other: Demands money fights

Aftet getting a razor thin sd over gastelum he sits out 18 months for a titleshot. Then calls out Nick Diaz of all people. Demands money fights and whines about how badly he is treated.

Also boring fights

Also racebaiter

 

[punky brewster]

lmao no one says that and if they do they're probably white themselves. don't make shit up and argue against it in the same post. that's weird.

and this thread is funny. people blame woodley for "race baiting" but he hasn't actually talked about race in what.. a year? the last article you can find was like january of last year. the people "race baiting" are the ones that continually bring race up whenever woodley is mentioned, i.e most of you fuckin guys.


let it go

You've never heard a black person say another black person acts too white? Let me guess, you've never heard the term Uncle Tom either? Lol, what planet do you live on?

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-o...tes-think-qb-russell-wilson-isnt-black-enough

Then there's this: "There is also an element of race that needs to be discussed," Freeman wrote. "My feeling on this -- and it's backed up by several interviews with Seahawks players -- is that some of the black players think Wilson isn't black enough."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/game...er-questions-robert-griffin-iii-race/1767071/

"But my question, which is just a straight, honest question, is: Is he a brother or is he a cornball brother?"..........."Well because that's just how I want to find out about him. I don't know because I keep hearing these things. We all know he has a white fiancée. There was all this talk about how he's a Republican, which, I don't really care, there's no information at all. I'm just trying to dig deeper into why he has an issue. Because we did find out with Tiger Woods. Tiger Woods was like, I've got black skin but don't call me black."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/charles-barkley-is-right-on-acting-white

Barkley goes further by noting that blacks are likened to a bucket of crabs who are willing to pull down those who are successful and intelligent. I wish that Barkley’s commentary on certain elements of the black community rang false; several years of research on the subject proves that the “acting white” accusation is sadly alive and well in America.

 

[mudrubble]

again, you can just read these threads and racial identity issues are among the first things that come up by people who want to deny credibility to guys like Woodley - and now Din - for their comments on race

Woodley's last time talking about race in any sort of media outlet was, from what i can find, January of last year. if people on Sherdog didn't care about identity issues, they wouldn't still be bringing it up in every Woodley thread.

grand scheme, I don't think it's a "majority" opinion about Woodley's race, but it's impossible to deny that it plays a factor to a decent percentage of people on this forum

Tell 'em Mika!

 

[TrueFightFan]

Since Tyron Woodley won the UFC welterweight title at UFC 201 in 2016, the UFC has struggled with promoting a champion with the reputation for being widely disliked by fans. It doesn’t help matters that Woodley’s title defenses since becoming champion have been less than captivating or that UFC President Dana White has routinely feuded with his welterweight champion and thrown him under the proverbial bus on several occasions. But more so than either of those explanations, Woodley’s friend, coach, and podcast partner Din Thomas believes that race is one of the major reasons why Woodley has yet to gain traction with MMA fans.

“He’s not all that relatable to people,” Thomas told the UFC Unfiltered podcast yesterday. “He’s a wealthy black man that speaks his mind, people don’t like that. People didn’t like Cam Newton when Cam Newton was loud and brash. People just don’t like wealthy, large black men to speak their minds.

“It’s not all racial but let’s keep it real, when there’s a debate or whatever, Presidents wear a certain color tie to appeal to a certain demographic. We can’t try to hide the fact that our skin color has something to do with how people treat you. We can’t hide that fact.”

Woodley himself hasn’t been shy about suggesting that his race plays a role in how he has been treated by the fans and by the UFC, and as the issues continue to arise with Dana White still publicly lambasting his champion, it’s hard not to find some merit in the claims. And as for the counterargument that former light heavyweight champion Jon Jones is black and beloved by the fans and a star for the UFC, Thomas says that Jones is more relatable because of his numerous personal failings.

“Here’s the thing: Jon Jones is a lot more relatable because Jon Jones doesn’t come off like he’s great,” Thomas suggested. “My sister-in-law once said to me, ‘Look at Tyron, he acts like he’s better than everybody,’ and she said that not knowing Tyron but just what he puts out there. But Jon Jones can’t because he’s a drug addict and steroids and he’s running pregnant ladies over, so he comes off as human. He has problems and people can relate to that.”

Some people contend that Woodley’s failure to connect with fans has nothing to do with his race but stems from his attitude and suggest that Woodley is just “race-baiting.” Thomas concludes by arguing against that, admitting that Woodley’s inability to gain broader appeal with the MMA fan base at large is not solely a product of his race, but that race is definitely a key factor in the whole thing.

“There’s a lot of different reasons,” concluded Thomas. “Don’t get me wrong, sometimes it comes off as if we’re saying all people don’t like him because he’s black, but I don’t believe that for a second. I just think that’s one of the elements that makes him less relatable.”

Woodley is still recovering from shoulder surgery he had in December but is anticipating a summertime return to the cage, though no opponent is currently set.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/3/...relate-to-jon-jones-better-than-tyron-woodley

You know that Cormier just blows a huge hole in this guy's "theory boat". The only time that I see a black guy getting hated because he is "black" is when said black guy starts talking about people not liking him because "he is black". There are a few other instances, like when a black guy happens to accidentally work his way into a Klan meeting, but Woodley is boring, won the title in exciting fashion but got his shot by whining. He has scraped by in all of his fights, since then, and has boasted about being the "best Welter Weight in History" and then claims that if you don't agree, it is because he is black.

I don't like Woodley but I don't dislike him either. He's a guy with whom I don't happen to agree with and he happens to be black.

 

[mudrubble]

Charles Barkley literally has a TV show about racism in America.

https://www.si.com/tech-media/2017/05/09/charles-barkley-racism-american-race-series

"“If you are black on television, you are probably going to be some kind of thug, gangster or portrayed in a negative light,” Barkley said.” If you are some type of Muslim, you are going to be blowing stuff up. If you are Hispanic you are going to be some type of gangbanger. I’ve felt like this for years.”"

He's felt it, too.

AND Barkley is one of the biggest apologists for white racsim in black America.

When even BARKLEY, even BARKLEY admits racism is real, there can be no doubt. If there was any human way for Barkley to deny racism and praise white society and even put down black society he would go for that in a heartbeat.