NFL Tyreek Hill will run 100m Friday

Kowboy On Sherdog said:
Is that good ? Are Texas High-School Sprinters elite?
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Hell yeah they are. Compare the winning time there to the times ran by professional track stars in international competition across all the top leagues (ex. Diamond) and meets so far this year:
19.84+1.1 Trayvon BROMELL 10 JUL 1995
USA
USA		1Stadio Olimpico, Roma (ITA)06 JUN 20251262
29.86+0.6 Abdul-Rasheed SAMINU 06 OCT 1997
GHA
GHA		1h2University of North Florda Jax Track at Hodges Stadium, Jacksonville, FL (USA)30 MAY 20251255
29.86+0.8 Kenneth BEDNAREK 14 OCT 1998
USA
USA		1f2Franklin Field, Philadelphia, PA (USA)01 JUN 20251255
49.880.0 Kishane THOMPSON 17 JUL 2001
JAM
JAM		1f1National Stadium, Kingston (JAM)07 JUN 20251248
59.90-1.4 Akani SIMBINE 21 SEP 1993
RSA
RSA		1f1National Stadium, Gaborone (BOT)12 APR 20251249
69.92+1.6 Kayinsola AJAYI 14 SEP 2004
NGR
NGR		1sf3Hayward Field, Eugene, OR (USA)11 JUN 20251234

Tied for 6th place.
 
Sir Elzio Dennick said:
Nobody is talking about lightning, this is about being able to run 100m fast.

Any fast guy can run a oood 40, that takes no specific training. What does take specifc training is 100meters.

Short area quicks mean nothing.

Sprinters hit that topend/max velocity arounf 50ish meters. Now it's about being able to sustain/maintain as much of your max as you can before you hit that decelleration phase. nobody can run 100m all out that is impossble, but you can decellerate at a slower pace.

The great sprinters hang on to max longer and decellerate slower.

None of that has anythig to do with soccer ites at all. simply because none of them were ever sprinters.

A doctor must have credentials to showhow he got there, Cops need a badge, legit sprinters need a history of winning, running fast times, thee is no.......boy is he quick.....that meansnothing without...........credentials, history of speed.

When the Cowboys drafted Bob Hayes, he came with Olympic gold medals-two,11 sprint world records. Current world record holder at 100m.

What has Renaldo ever done in the speed world,yep.............0.
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This is just patently false, an absolutely nobody of a person in the track and field can run all out for 100m. There is nothing impossible about it. Of course we have famous examples of people who were gold medalists who also did it. If you divide Michael Johnsons 200m best time in 2, you will see its faster than his 100m best time. What does that tell you? He ran more than 100m all out.
 
KeepingItReal said:
This is just patently false, an absolutely nobody of a person in the track and field can run all out for 100m. There is nothing impossible about it. Of course we have famous examples of people who were gold medalists who also did it. If you divide Michael Johnsons 200m best time in 2, you will see its faster than his 100m best time. What does that tell you? He ran more than 100m all out.
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So you are telling me that sprinters don't decellerate in a 100 meters, right? That once they hit their topend they will sustain/maintain that max velocity all the way to the finish, right?
 
Sir Elzio Dennick said:
So you are telling me that sprinters don't decellerate in a 100 meters, right? That once they hit their topend they will sustain/maintain that max velocity all the way to the finish, right?
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Who is telling you what bro? You can look at 100m and 200m PB's of gold medalists. Are you telling me you've never run 100m all out? I have. It's slow as shit and nothing to write about, but was it all out? Absolutely. Read your own statement and tell how it makes sense.

"nobody can run 100m all out that is impossible"

Is it physiologically impossible? No. Are there no sprinters who have ever "run all out"? No. Aren't there sprinters whose 200m best divided by 2 is better than their 100m best? Yes. So how does your statement make sense? Where are you drawing these conclusions from? You saw a couple of races and now you think you've seen everything?
 
KeepingItReal said:
Who is telling you what bro? You can look at 100m and 200m PB's of gold medalists. Are you telling me you've never run 100m all out? I have. It's slow as shit and nothing to write about, but was it all out? Absolutely. Read your own statement and tell how it makes sense.

"nobody can run 100m all out that is impossible"

Is it physiologically impossible? No. Are there no sprinters who have ever "run all out"? No. Aren't there sprinters whose 200m best divided by 2 is better than their 100m best? Yes. So how does your statement make sense? Where are you drawing these conclusions from? You saw a couple of races and now you think you've seen everything?
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So there is no decelleration phase in a 100m sprint, that doesn't exist, right?

Dude, I was a sprinter and have been into this stuff since the early 60's. Trust me you are totally 100% absolutely clueless.

Why do sprinters train running repeat 300's. well? That is to build your
"SPEED ENDURANCE" so you can sustain/maintain your top end for a large % of a 100m, the slower you decellerate the better and you will be decellerating, everyone decellerates......ok rookie?

Michael Johnson was just a 10.09 100m guy, so how did he beat 9.86 guys Frankie Fredericks and Ato Boldon in the 200m at those 96 Olympics. well?
 
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Sir Elzio Dennick said:
So there is no decelleration phase in a 100m sprint, that doesn't exist, right?

Dude, I was a sprinter and have been into this stuff since the early 60's. Trust me you are totally 100% absolutely clueless.

Why do sprinters train running repeat 300's. well? That is to build your
"SPEED ENDURANCE" so you can sustain/maintain your top end for a large % of a 100m, the slower you decellerate the better and you will be decellerating, everyone decellerates......ok rookie?

Michael Johnson was just a 10.09 100m guy, so how did he beat 9.86 guys Frankie Fredericks and Ato Boldon in the 200m at those 96 Olympics. well?
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It sounds like there is for you because you are presumably in your 70's or 80's?

Which ones bro? "Feed the Cats" Coach Tony Holler doesn't train his track athletes at 300m repeats. He does 150m or 200m. As for the reasoning, the only reason I can see is to get used to running with lactic acid buildup.

I know this is going to blow your mind but it has something to do with running at top speed for 100m or more.
 
KeepingItReal said:
It sounds like there is for you because you are presumably in your 70's or 80's?

Which ones bro? "Feed the Cats" Coach Tony Holler doesn't train his track athletes at 300m repeats. He does 150m or 200m. As for the reasoning, the only reason I can see is to get used to running with lactic acid buildup.

I know this is going to blow your mind but it has something to do with running at top speed for 100m or more.
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So this isn't reality?

100M

Start......accellerate.....hit topend.....maintain that top end......decellerate.

That's BS with spriters never decellerating, right?

So you really believe sprinters run 100m all out, they don't lose that topend at all right?


So that gang of sprint geeks over at Speed Endurance .Com are BSing with......


Usain Bolt won the 100 meters because of his speed endurance.

I’ve said this all along, unless you are running a 40 yard dash or 50 meter sprint, sprinting the 100, 200, or 400 meters is all about speed endurance… reach your top speed, and maintain it. The winner of two athletes with the same top end speed will be the one who decelerates the least.

See that word.........................decellerates.......what does that tell you?

And......what is "SPEED ENDURANCE".....well?

Obviously you didn't run the sprints. I couldn't run a 100 yards I slowed down everyone slows down, simply how it is. Those who slow down the least .....win.

The great Tommie Smith, is known for being able to mantain most of his top end longer than a normal human, that is how he once ran down Jim Hines the soon to be Olympic 100m gold medalist on a 4x1 anchor. But, even he did slow down .

No human can run 100m at full bore that is impossible. And if you understood this stuff you'd be aware of that fact..

Why try and talk about things you really don't get?
 
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All anyone who doesn't understand sprinting has to do is Google.

Here is what you'll find.


The gliding phase begins once the torso is upright. Here you will use your leg muscle strength and sprinting form to maintain a wide but comfortable stride length.

Try and stay relaxed. This means no hunching of the shoulders or clenching of the jaw. High levels of tension in the body will only slow you down sooner. Once you reach your top speed you will only be able to maintain it for a minimal amount of time. This is why getting the acceleration right can make or break your race

Deceleration is unavoidable but good sprinting technique can help maintain your maximum velocity.

See where it says.....decelleration is unavoidable? You are taught that as a kid, that is why you run over distance stuff, you want to build that SPEED ENDURANCE so you can hang on as long as ya can before decellerating.

Nobody can run a 100m and not decellerate.

At 200m nobody runs the first 100m close to max, that is so you have something left

I know I know it sure looks like these guys are coming on but that is an illusion, in realiy all are decellerating at different speeds.

Unless you sprinted or are really into it you woudn't get any of that, I do get that.
 
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There are 4 phases in a 100m

start
accelerate
topend

and........

Phase #4: The Deceleration​

Last but not least is the final phase of your sprint: the deceleration.

The name of this last phase is a bit misleading; you aren’t trying to actively decelerate from your sprint. More so, this is typically the point in a sprint where athletes run low on power and have to work harder to stave off any fatigue or factors that may cause slow-down.

I spent all my school years sprinting, and am also a history nerd about it. I know sprinting yes we humans cannot run 100m full speed, that is impossibe, all we can do is try to not lose more of our max velocity than we have to, enter...............speed endurance.......training. But, we can only do so much, we still decellerate.

It took Usain Bolt longer to hit his topend, so he spent less time decellerating than most. And, he spent years as a 200m guy, so his speed endurance at 100m was on a different level.
 
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@Sir Elzio Dennick

What is the longest point of distance in the 100m, at which a sprinter has been observed achieving peak speed before deceleration?

Gotta be Bolt at about 90.
 
Natural Order said:
@Sir Elzio Dennick

What is the longest point of distance in the 100m, at which a sprinter has been observed achieving peak speed before deceleration?

Gotta be Bolt at about 90.
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Goes like this more or less

Basically ....reaction to the gun.....start accellerating.....around 50/60 you are hitting max.topend.....now you try to maintain that as long as you can......this is what you train for. But....you will start decellerating, some slower than others.

I did read something about the splits in Bolts 9.58 WR sprint, yep, he did't decellerate until real late in that race. Which was his ace in the hole. His "speed endurance"on a whole other level.

But, we really can't use Bolt for examples of anything being he was so superior to everyone else.

Bolt and Tommie Smith the two who came closest to being able to hold on with little decellaration. Both were running 400/200 early on. Smith held the WR in both.


I don't blame those who............ah hell he ain't slowing down he's coming on...........it really is a weird illusion. It sure looks likes like one cat is running away with it. Reality......slowing down slower.

This is pretty much the deal.

Notice from 60-80 as fast as it got? Slower from 80-100
0–20 m (s)20–40 m (s)40–60 m (s)60–80 m (s)80–100 m (s)
vmax–0.57⁎⁎(–0.73 to –0.40)–0.90⁎⁎(–0.93 to –0.86)–0.98⁎⁎(–0.99 to –0.96)–0.96⁎⁎(–0.97 to –0.93)–0.93⁎⁎(–0.95 to –0.89)
 
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