Crime Tyre Nichols video to be released soon. 5 Memphis cops fired and charged with murder for his death

[spamking]

You seem more disappointed about BK than the actual murders. Interesting.

This pathetic comment makes everything else in your post completely worthless.

Nothing I've said here indicates anything close to your accusation. It is possible to be completely fed up with race-baiting grifters and see the the death of Tyre Nichols as a senseless tragedy.

 

[mkess101]

Yea people die from the RNC more then you would think compared to how much you see it in MMA. I remember reading about two cousins play fighting at the beach and one of them died from an RNC placed on them by the other kid.

If I get into a fight I'm just breaking an arm\leg. The thing about the RNC to is people can assume you're trying to kill someone and then weapons can arguably be considered legal to use against me.

That's fair. I do think any LEO that is going to use it needs to have extensive training to know exactly when to let go of the choke.

 

[IamStryker]

they’re clearly very incompetent like most police forces.

idk if they’ve been struggling to hire officers. if they have, that makes sense. people shouldn’t want to be cops tbh it’s a shitty job that makes you do shitty things. regardless, they weren’t defunded whatsoever. so that’s not really valid here.

I wasn't actually claiming they were defunded. I'm claiming that narrative which hates on police is part of the issue.

Apparently one of their issues is pay. If their budget is adequate why isn't the pay up to par?

"85 officers resigned in 2021. Most of them either switched careers or went to work for other agencies, many of which offer better pay."

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

I wasn't actually claiming they were defunded. I'm claiming that narrative which hates on police is part of the issue.

Apparently one of their issues is pay. If their budget is adequate why isn't the pay up to par?

"85 officers resigned in 2021. Most of them either switched careers or went to work for other agencies, many of which offer better pay."

so even when properly funded, they pay like shit. so this money is clearly not going to wages or training. i think society gradually turning against policing as a concept and less people signing up to be cops is a good thing. the cops in this situation specifically didn’t need to exist. they managed to turn a routine traffic stop into a murder. they didn’t need to be on the payroll.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

This pathetic comment makes everything else in your post completely worthless.

Nothing I've said here indicates anything close to your accusation. It is possible to be completely fed up with race-baiting grifters and see the the death of Tyre Nichols as a senseless tragedy.

How is it race-baiting and grifting in this real situation????
The questions you avoided like the plague clearly spells it out.

Or will you find another way to not answer questions that poke holes in your talking points...

 

[Scerpi]

Wouldn't their side be that they enforced the law by arresting and charging those cops? The article basically just says that Crump wants everyone to judge this incident based off of "incomplete footage". The problem with that is that Crump isn't the person who decided what footage to release. Memphis PD released the footage as far as I can tell. I'm not sure what motive MPD would have to withhold any evidence that could change this story. Their department and the city will be getting sued so if they had something that could shift blame to Nichols then I feel like they would have put that out there.

Omg... Crump is involved?

 

[SummerStriker]

That's fair. I do think any LEO that is going to use it needs to have extensive training to know exactly when to let go of the choke.

I don't think that is really possible. If you are in a quiet gym and no one has pepper sprayed you or punched you in the face, you can notice the smallest change in the person you are choking, or their little one finger tap.

If someone punched you in the face, if people are screaming, if you and the person you are choking are covered in pepper spray, then then cop will not have any reliable way of knowing when to let up on the choke. I think choking someone is high risk, high reward. Sometimes you apprehend the guy without hurting him (though cops want to maim and injure people so this is besides the point) and sometimes you press an attack against a helpless person and commit murder. Cops who apply a choke should use it to gain a position of control. Choking people out should be considered lethal force, and if the cop persists in a choke after the person is out, then it should be first degree murder / attempted murder, and the cop should be executed by the state. I'd swing the axe myself if they would let me.

 

[mkess101]

I don't think that is really possible. If you are in a quiet gym and no one has pepper sprayed you or punched you in the face, you can notice the smallest change in the person you are choking, or their little one finger tap.

If someone punched you in the face, if people are screaming, if you and the person you are choking are covered in pepper spray, then then cop will not have any reliable way of knowing when to let up on the choke. I think choking someone is high risk, high reward. Sometimes you apprehend the guy without hurting him (though cops want to maim and injure people so this is besides the point) and sometimes you press an attack against a helpless person and commit murder. Cops who apply a choke should use it to gain a position of control. Choking people out should be considered lethal force, and if the cop persists in a choke after the person is out, then it should be first degree murder / attempted murder, and the cop should be executed by the state. I'd swing the axe myself if they would let me.

There's not really any reply to this when you toss in "cops want to maim and injure people...". I don't think anything I could say to you would even begin to resonate, we're just starting from two points that are way too far apart. I appreciate your reply, and there's likely some salient stuff in it...but our launch points here are on different planets. The kind of discussion that moves from productive to a shitstorm really quickly.

 

[IamStryker]

so even when properly funded, they pay like shit. so this money is clearly not going to wages or training. i think society gradually turning against policing as a concept and less people signing up to be cops is a good thing. the cops in this situation specifically didn’t need to exist. they managed to turn a routine traffic stop into a murder. they didn’t need to be on the payroll.

But the department is already understaffed. How can the solution be to higher less people?

They need to be properly staffed with well trained quality officers. That's the goal.

 

[Hung Like a Hamster]

2 out of 3 emt were black and were fired? is this true? If so people have lost their minds. Ben Crump guy is crazy. Dude trying get that white cop fired just for being there haha.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

But the department is already understaffed. How can the solution be to higher less people?

They need to be properly staffed with well trained quality officers. That's the goal.

they get a billion dollars every 3 years. no amount of funding is going to solve their problems. less cops = less interactions with cops = less murder by cops. reroute the new amount of funding into worthwhile ventures like mental health/addiction support & education.

 

[Denter]

they get a billion dollars every 3 years. no amount of funding is going to solve their problems. less cops = less interactions with cops = less murder by cops. reroute the new amount of funding into worthwhile ventures like mental health/addiction support & education.

TFW the socio-economic factors make the stick up guy shoot the store clerk in the face after he already has the money.

 

[Scerpi]

2 out of 3 emt were black and were fired? is this true? If so people have lost their minds. Ben Crump guy is crazy. Dude trying get that white cop fired just for being there haha.

His entire grift relies on the there being a White Police Officer to go after

 

[Yehudim]

they get a billion dollars every 3 years. no amount of funding is going to solve their problems. less cops = less interactions with cops = less murder by cops. reroute the new amount of funding into worthwhile ventures like mental health/addiction support & education.

This is such a great post because you stumbled upon a really important lesson and immediately ignored it.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

This is such a great post because you stumbled upon a really important lesson and immediately ignored it.

enlighten me.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

TFW the socio-economic factors make the stick up guy shoot the store clerk in the face after he already has the money.

tf are you talking about? lmao

 

[nhbbear]

2 out of 3 emt were black and were fired? is this true? If so people have lost their minds. Ben Crump guy is crazy. Dude trying get that white cop fired just for being there haha.

Before his identity was known, they had to blame the policing institution for white supremacy. Now they have their sacrificial lamb and they want him to suffer their rage

 

[spamking]

How is it race-baiting and grifting in this real situation????

Oh quit. You know as well as I do this real situation is full of both. People blaming the system instead of the cops who beat the guy. People acting all shocked that 5 black cops would beat up another black guy implying that it makes the guy's death that much worse. His death is horrible enough as it is. No need to add layers and caveats where they're not needed.

I'll repeat what you whined about earlier, grifters don't help solve any of these issues.

The questions you avoided like the plague clearly spells it out.

Or will you find another way to not answer questions that poke holes in your talking points...

Oh please. Hop off that high horse. I was pretty clear about why they weren't answered.

Since you seem to need validated read on for answers.

Who should hold the officials responsible than???

Their community. Voters. Their superiors. If they won't then keep moving up the chain of command until you no longer need to do so.

Should the family of these victims have legal & crisis representation???

Please point out where I said they shouldn't?

If your child was tortured, mutilated,abused, disfigured, & murdered by an organization with heavy funds that was supposed to protect and serve you through your paid tax dollars....wouldn't you want a proven experienced trouble maker to make them compensate you for your loss and their gross negligence???

So your first thought here is how you'd want to get paid for losing a family member? Sounds exactly like a grifter's first thoughts to me.

Dude this is all on camera. I'm sure an average lawyer could handle this without any issues. Stop acting like Ben Crump is some legal scholar that's going to solve society's issues. You make enough noise people are bound to pay you to be quiet.

 

[Yehudim]

enlighten me.

First of all, you noted that money does not always solve problems. Then you pointed out that officers (who we would assume are the main beneficiaries of a generous budget) are underpaid.

But then you immediately suggest we need more money in education which is the poster child of what you are talking about, and that is that more money does not always go directly to the people we think it should go to, and that money itself can only take you so far.

Not to mention suggesting funding of vague “mental health” and addiction programs which I don’t see any evidence of working.

We need a better system of doing things, it’s pointless to throw the money at a terrible system, it’s just going to become an endless money pit.

 

[the ambush]

These shitty and incompetent officers is what the defund the police narrative gets you.

While we're covering the issue of defund the police.

It needs to be taken into account there were officers subduing and killing unarmed citizens before and still after