Media Tsarukyan VS Makachaev Full fight+aftermath

[BonesWinckleJones]

after watching this performance who's done better volk or arman?

 

[Mr.Maelstrom]

after watching this performance who's done better volk or arman?

They're 0-3 combined vs Islam, but Arman didn't lose by KO, so him obviously.

Fucked up thing is, that loss in his debut was one of his most impressive performances to date.

He's likely improved but it hasn't necessarily translated to bigger, more memorable wins. He scraped by Charles via decision but also dropped one to Gamrot. The Dariush KO was good but Dariush is far from a marquee win.

Add in the inactivity and the 24hr pulling out of a title shot... Arman has gained barely any usable ground

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

They're 0-3 combined vs Islam, but Arman didn't lose by KO, so him obviously.

Fucked up thing is, that loss in his debut was one of his most impressive performances to date.

He's likely improved but it hasn't necessarily translated to bigger, more memorable wins. He scraped by Charles via decision but also dropped one to Gamrot.

Add in the inactivity and 24hr pull out of a title shot... Arman has gained barely any applicable ground

If you take the problems that dumb fighters and dumb managers have and combine them into one person, it's Arman.

 

[Mr.Maelstrom]

If you take the problems that dumb fighters and dumb managers have and combine them into one person, it's Arman.

He also comes from money, would explain his somewhat "laid back attitude" regarding opponents and (lack of) consistent activity

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

He also comes from money, would explain his somewhat "laid back attitude" regarding opponents and (lack of) consistent activity

It's hard to go hard when you grow up in silk sheets.

 

[Why did you]

It's hard to go hard when you grow up in silk sheets.

True for tsarukyan but not for budha

 

[Mr.Maelstrom]

It's hard to go hard when you grow up in silk sheets.

Ilia too, actually. Both are "rich kids"
Not having to live fight purse to fight purse really does allow them the room needed to be as picky/inactive as they chose to be.

 

[wrb]

They're 0-3 combined vs Islam, but Arman didn't lose by KO, so him obviously.

Fucked up thing is, that loss in his debut was one of his most impressive performances to date.

He's likely improved but it hasn't necessarily translated to bigger, more memorable wins. He scraped by Charles via decision but also dropped one to Gamrot. The Dariush KO was good but Dariush is far from a marquee win.

Add in the inactivity and the 24hr pulling out of a title shot... Arman has gained barely any usable ground

He is really good and the only guy to take Islam down — maybe they credited Volk with one; I cannot remember. I was thinking about it; him pulling out was such a fucking disaster of a move. Imagine if Jack pulled out or Khamzat before DDP. The damage from a move like that is so crazy, and LW is still messed up with the current champ only beating a guy Arman has already beaten. They might never let him fully recover from that move, but they've also been screwing him for years now, so I think it's even.

 

[Mr.Maelstrom]

He is really good and the only guy to take Islam down — maybe they credited Volk with one; I cannot remember. I was thinking about it; him pulling out was such a fucking disaster of a move. Imagine if Jack pulled out or Khamzat before DDP. The damage from a move like that is so crazy, and LW is still messed up with the current champ only beating a guy Arman has already beaten. They might never let him fully recover from that move, but they've also been screwing him for years now, so I think it's even.

I think you're 100% correct. It's the worst type of fuck up a fighter can commit on the eyes of Dana and the suits.
You're not only a proven liability, you pulled out so late that it forced them to pay Moicano a hail Mary replacement bag, but with just enough time for fans to find out and possibly decide not to buy the ppv.

They'd rather you fought with a sore back and come up short, that way the card stays intact with no loss in "potential revenue" and you would probably get a decent bounce back fight next time out.

To get hurt thursday, fuck them on Friday all while not seeming very distraught about it sends all the wrong messages lol

 

[TheMMAnalyst]

They're 0-3 combined vs Islam, but Arman didn't lose by KO, so him obviously.

Fucked up thing is, that loss in his debut was one of his most impressive performances to date.

He's likely improved but it hasn't necessarily translated to bigger, more memorable wins. He scraped by Charles via decision but also dropped one to Gamrot. The Dariush KO was good but Dariush is far from a marquee win.

Add in the inactivity and the 24hr pulling out of a title shot... Arman has gained barely any usable ground

To most he clearly beat Gamrot, the control was incredibly overrated in that fight.

When you don’t need to fight for money you don’t mind getting frozen out as much, if you’re useful to them you’ll get more opportunities.

I mean his return fight after the pull out is he gets to headline a card in the Middle East against a fun action fighter in Hooker, pretty good showcase to put him back in the mix.

 

[RichardHarrow]

He is really good and the only guy to take Islam down — maybe they credited Volk with one; I cannot remember. I was thinking about it; him pulling out was such a fucking disaster of a move. Imagine if Jack pulled out or Khamzat before DDP. The damage from a move like that is so crazy, and LW is still messed up with the current champ only beating a guy Arman has already beaten. They might never let him fully recover from that move, but they've also been screwing him for years now, so I think it's even.

I think Poirier took him down.

 

[MMACro]

I think Poirier took him down.

No,but Moises actually did

 

[RichardHarrow]

No,but Moises actually did

I stand corrected. You’re right.