Trump's Speech to Congress

[m52nickerson]

Hack V Savage is a confirmed liar.

Post one place he has lied.

 

[kpt018]

Such as?

You're going to have to provide examples, otherwise that which is asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

Thanks Socrates.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...fact-checking-donald-trumps-address-congress/

This is just wrong. Trump gave the best speech of any President that has served in the 21st century.

What kind of bullshit rebuttal was that? You demand evidence and then post this? At least state what was so great about it.

Trumps praise of a fallen soldier, and the tearful receiving of applause by the soldiers widow will be positively remembered for decades to come. Your partisanship is preventing you from observing objectively.

Ironic you use the word "objective" to slam me for not having the same emotional response as others. Do you even think about what you say before you say it?

 

[KONE]

Post one place he has lied.

It's not actually hard in this case. We have a completely insane CT that started as a joke and has no evidence supporting it. A nutter even when in with a gun to investigate for himself and concluded that it was bullshit.

What actually happened:

Some guy with a gun walked in, said no one was in there at the time but didn't dismiss the CT entirely like Jack said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/07/us/edgar-welch-comet-pizza-fake-news.html?_r=0

"However, he refused to dismiss outright the claims in the online articles, conceding only that there were no children “inside that dwelling.”"

Did you read the link in the OP? Honestly, it sounds to me like you're just in denial.

In response to someone who asked for PROOF that Russia was involved in the election, he referred to the article posted in this particular OP, which didn't actually offer any proof.

Of course it was fluky. He was pulling out, Mir didn't have it locked, and he got injured. It's like the other one--you're just going around in circles and trolling.

He said Sylvia was pulling out of Mir's armbar when his arm broke and that Mir didn't have the armbar locked in. Both of those things have no basis in reality.

He also used to post in the Heavies and bash Mir all the time, but then lie and say "I pick Mir to win all the time, if anything I overrate him!" He did this with Carwin and said he picked Mir to beat Carwin, even though someone looked through his post history where he actually picked Carwin. Too bad the forum got purged, you can't look this particular thing up anymore.

 

[KONE]

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...fact-checking-donald-trumps-address-congress/

Pretty shit source tbh

 

[kpt018]

Pretty shit source tbh

What was wrong with what they said?

 

[KONE]

What was wrong with what they said?

I don't read politifact so I don't know, just saying you should probably use a more reputable source in the future

 

[kpt018]

I don't read politifact so I don't know, just saying you should probably use a more reputable source in the future

If you don't read it I have no reason to think your view on it is valid.

But tons of reporters have done fact checks, here's another. There are probably 50 of these from last night's speech.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-address-to-congress/?utm_term=.e0aab2680b16

 

[KONE]

If you don't read it I have no reason to think your view on it is valid.

But tons of reporters have done fact checks, here's another. There are probably 50 of these from last night's speech.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-address-to-congress/?utm_term=.e0aab2680b16

A much better source, thank you kindly

Here's why I don't read politifact btw:

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/127737983/

 

[TheStruggle]

If you don't read it I have no reason to think your view on it is valid.

But tons of reporters have done fact checks, here's another. There are probably 50 of these from last night's speech.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-address-to-congress/?utm_term=.e0aab2680b16

You guys haven't learned a fucking thing from wikileaks

 

[Jack V Savage]

You guys haven't learned a fucking thing from wikileaks

What's the lesson and how does it relate to the fact that a lot of the claims Trump made were objectively false?

 

[m52nickerson]

What actually happened:

Some guy with a gun walked in, said no one was in there at the time but didn't dismiss the CT entirely like Jack said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/07/us/edgar-welch-comet-pizza-fake-news.html?_r=0

"However, he refused to dismiss outright the claims in the online articles, conceding only that there were no children “inside that dwelling.”"

The full quote, "“The intel on this wasn’t 100 percent,” he said. However, he refused to dismiss outright the claims in the online articles, conceding only that there were no children “inside that dwelling.” He also said that child slavery was a worldwide phenomenon."

So not a lie. Strike one.

In response to someone who asked for PROOF that Russia was involved in the election, he referred to the article posted in this particular OP, which didn't actually offer any proof.

Seeing as most of the article at the time did have proof, just not the typo Trump supporters would accept...strike two.

He said Sylvia was pulling out of Mir's armbar when his arm broke and that Mir didn't have the armbar locked in. Both of those things have no basis in reality.

He also used to post in the Heavies and bash Mir all the time, but then lie and say "I pick Mir to win all the time, if anything I overrate him!" He did this with Carwin and said he picked Mir to beat Carwin, even though someone looked through his post history where he actually picked Carwin. Too bad the forum got purged, you can't look this particular thing up anymore.

Sylvia was starting to stand up, and pull out of the armbar when his forearm snapped. Seeing as the armbar is aiming to put pressure on the elbow and not the forearm Mir really did not have it full locked in.

Strike three, you're out.

 

[m52nickerson]

I don't read politifact so I don't know, just saying you should probably use a more reputable source in the future

You don't read it, but you know it is a shitty source?

 

[Jack V Savage]

The full quote, "“The intel on this wasn’t 100 percent,” he said. However, he refused to dismiss outright the claims in the online articles, conceding only that there were no children “inside that dwelling.” He also said that child slavery was a worldwide phenomenon."

So not a lie. Strike one.

Seeing as most of the article at the time did have proof, just not the typo Trump supporters would accept...strike two.

Sylvia was starting to stand up, and pull out of the armbar when his forearm snapped. Seeing as the armbar is aiming to put pressure on the elbow and not the forearm Mir really did not have it full locked in.

Strike three, you're out.

I don't even have to view to know that you're replying to KONE. To that idiot, not wanting to blow Mir = lying about him. I guess he skipped the fact that I flip-flopped on Mir/Carwin (which he bizarrely thinks is something nefarious), first saying that I had it nearly even but leaned one way and then saying I had it nearly even but leaned the other way. I'm not ashamed to admit that I called that one wrong either way.

 

[Toastytoy]

Fake new-

Oh' wait, it's good. Real news.

The whole "fake news" fiasco was 'cause of CNNs visible contempt for trump, so im even more likely to listen. Same as if breitbart put out a piece strongly critical of him.

 

[KONE]

The full quote, "“The intel on this wasn’t 100 percent,” he said. However, he refused to dismiss outright the claims in the online articles, conceding only that there were no children “inside that dwelling.” He also said that child slavery was a worldwide phenomenon."

So not a lie. Strike one.

lol what?

Jack - he concluded the CT was bullshit
The actual guy - "However, he would not outright dismiss the possibility of the Clinton-connected child-sex ring, saying there were simply no children “inside that dwelling.”"

You can't conclude a CT is bullshit and then not dismiss the possibility of it, moron. What he said was that there were no children there in that one instance he walked in. What the actual fuck is wrong with you?

Seeing as most of the article at the time did have proof, just not the typo Trump supporters would accept...strike two

Please show what proof of Russia hacking the election this article had, thank you:

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/11/trump-blasts-ridiculous-cia-report-that-russia-was-behind-hacks.html

Sylvia was starting to stand up, and pull out of the armbar when his forearm snapped.

>starting to stand up
>literally on his knee when it breaks

LMAO

Seeing as the armbar is aiming to put pressure on the elbow and not the forearm Mir really did not have it full locked in.

Strike three, you're out.

If your cup acts as a fulcrum and puts pressure on the forearm, you break your forearm. What are you even talking about?

 

[Toastytoy]

lol what?



>starting to stand up
>literally on his knee

LMAO

If your cup acts as a fulcrum and puts pressure on the forearm, you break your forearm. What are you even talking about?

i dont really know why were talking about this, but its damn unlikely to break someones forearm with an armbar especially in mma cause its too low and you can yank it out. That armbar was right on the elbow

 

[KONE]

i dont really know why were talking about this, but its damn unlikely to break someones forearm with an armbar especially in mma cause its too low and you can yank it out. That armbar was right on the elbow

It's unlikely to break someones forearm with an armbar because people aren't as devastating with their submissions as Mir is. People don't want to break someone elses limb or people usually tap out before it happens. He broke Roberto Traven's arm, Sylvia's arm and Big Nog's arm.

Why else would his forearm break in 3 places if there wasn't tremendous pressure on his forearm?

 

[kpt018]

You guys haven't learned a fucking thing from wikileaks

Huh? I learned plenty but probably not what you think.

 

[Toastytoy]

It's unlikely to break someones forearm with an armbar because people aren't as devastating with their submissions as Mir is. People don't want to break someone elses limb or people usually tap out before it happens. He broke Roberto Traven's arm, Sylvia's arm and Big Nog's arm.

Why else would his forearm break in 3 places if there wasn't tremendous pressure on his forearm?

i wasnt aware that happened, iv only ever seen popped elbows in 7 years of bjj. The way your arm is naturally shaped/made the elbow is the weakest link and the first thing to go and most people will tap when their elbow is popped. Maybe cause its ufc they hold off on tapping longer, who knows, it definitely isnt common or normal

 

[m52nickerson]

lol what?

Jack - he concluded the CT was bullshit
The actual guy - "However, he would not outright dismiss the possibility of the Clinton-connected child-sex ring, saying there were simply no children “inside that dwelling.”"

You can't conclude a CT is bullshit and then not dismiss the possibility of it, moron. What he said was that there were no children there in that one instance he walked in. What the actual fuck is wrong with you?

No children inside, meaning the Pizzagate angle was BS.

Please show what proof of Russia hacking the election this article had, thank you:

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/11/trump-blasts-ridiculous-cia-report-that-russia-was-behind-hacks.html

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/11/trump-blasts-ridiculous-cia-report-that-russia-was-behind-hacks.html

"The New York Times reported American intelligence agencies have "high confidence" that Russia intervened in the later stages of the 2016 election to help Trump win the presidency. Senior administration officials said the Russian government gave WikiLeaks emails from the Democratic National Committee and from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta. The agencies also found evidence that Russia hacked the Republican National Committee's computer systems, but did not release the information."

>starting to stand up
>literally on his knee when it breaks

LMAO

If your cup acts as a fulcrum and puts pressure on the forearm, you break your forearm. What are you even talking about?

Right before that clip starts Mir had been face down, Sylvia was getting up. Yes, the cup acted as a fulcrum, but that does not address the point that an armbar when locked in will use the cup, or crotch, as a fulcrum to put pressure on the elbow, not the forearm. Still impressive what Mir did, but it was not a perfect armbar.