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Law Trumps home raided

You think if the president declassifies a document on the spot he has to wait days for it to go through the declassifying process/
Recording ?
What kind of dumb question is this?
Maybe if we lived in a dictatorship like Putin he could. But in a US democracy, a president can't just say "oh this document isn't a threat to our country so im taking it home" without someone from NSA verifying it.
The amount of stupid in this thread is reaching potato levels.
 
Absolutely not - I've discussed this multiple times, but this thread isn't to discuss ideas, it's a circle jerk and Trump incarceration waiting room. Declassification often occurs because there is a time-sensitive matter at hand. In addition, Trump isn't bound to Obama's EO on classification. There is a formal process the President can prescribe, but he isn't bound to it. Declassification can occur at the drop of a hat if the President wishes. With that said, there should be some evidence declassification occurred or precedent that a President declassifies in a particular manner. Bolton has stated he wasn't aware of an informal process during his tenure in Trump's WH. In any case, it will be interesting as we're in uncharted territory and the President has incredible leeway in this area.

The President and anyone involved with the specific discussion of classified materials would not have to wait, sure. But until that document goes through the process of declassification it is still classified to the rest of the apparatus of government and of course the general public which includes all the coffee boys at Mar-A-Lago., especially in regards to compartmented TS documents, that is the function of compartmentalization in the intelligence world.
 
What kind of dumb question is this?
Maybe if we lived in a dictatorship like Putin he could. But in a US democracy, a president can't just say "oh this document isn't a threat to our country so im taking it home" without someone from NSA verifying it.
The amount of stupid in this thread is reaching potatoe levels.

Why would you think someone at the NSA can overrule the sitting President in an area he is well-known to have near complete authority over? The sitting President doesn't need to ask permission from anyone in this regard. It's common for contact to be made to discuss the possibility but that's all it is - someone's opinion and the President doesn't need to listen to it, hear it, or obey it. We're in the weeds in regards to a former President having sensitive material at his house years after his Presidency but in regards to Trump declassifying material and "taking it home" while President, he answers to no one.
 
I used to think the 2 billion Jared got was for turning the other way when they chopped up Khashoggi up in tiny pieces and for the US ignoring the atrocities in Yemen.
No country is not buying your sweet sweet oil, because of Khashoggi either. Sure they will clutch pearls in public but that is about it.
The thing Khashoggi thing would blow over and you can pin that on someone acting on their own, and 95% of the US could not find Yemen on a map.
So those 2 things dont add up giving 2 billion to a dude to manage, when off the top of my head there would be 100 other people I would consider than the Presidents son in law.
Now nuclear secrets, well I would pay 2 billion for that.
The funny thing is that we actually produce considerably more oil than Saudi Arabia, but it's privately owned and exported, so we have to import oil from SA and elsewhere.
 


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Solid lol , eh see my post above I’m not saying he did the right thing and declassified these documents. But it will lol be hard to charge him with that. The espionage act charge talk is a joke.
The documents technically don't have to be classified for the espionage act to be violated. Not that I think a charge is really on the table unless they were, but if Trump's defense is going to be he auto-declassified everything and those documents are highly sensitive defense related, shit could get weird.
 
Absolutely not - I've discussed this multiple times, but this thread isn't to discuss ideas, it's a circle jerk and Trump incarceration waiting room. Declassification often occurs because there is a time-sensitive matter at hand. In addition, Trump isn't bound to Obama's EO on classification. There is a formal process the President can prescribe, but he isn't bound to it. Declassification can occur at the drop of a hat if the President wishes. With that said, there should be some evidence declassification occurred or precedent that a President declassifies in a particular manner. Bolton has stated he wasn't aware of an informal process during his tenure in Trump's WH. In any case, it will be interesting as we're in uncharted territory and the President has incredible leeway in this area.
Yea that’s kind of the point I been eluding to, but people think he’s about to be in a organs jump suite because of the media. The length of time and having else is in play. Like I said if he did something wrong he should get the consistent punishment of that, he deserves it. I don’t trust a political charged AG and I don’t trust the whole side of Trump. If that makes sense and the FBI has been a joke since the way the handled Clinton emails, that Peter guy and his vendetta against Trump, nascar, school/ mass shooters, Comey, Hunter l. It just seems like a lot of failing in the public eye on all sides of the political isle.
 
What kind of dumb question is this?
Maybe if we lived in a dictatorship like Putin he could. But in a US democracy, a president can't just say "oh this document isn't a threat to our country so im taking it home" without someone from NSA verifying it.
The amount of stupid in this thread is reaching potato levels.
Yea he can that is literally within his power stupid. Go look it up, I posted a article from politico that this happen under Bush admin and they said Trump might not get hammered because of the same example. Don’t comment on stuff you have no clue about
 
What kind of dumb question is this?
Maybe if we lived in a dictatorship like Putin he could. But in a US democracy, a president can't just say "oh this document isn't a threat to our country so im taking it home" without someone from NSA verifying it.
The amount of stupid in this thread is reaching potato levels.
What democracy isn't: thinking politicians are in charge of the government.
 
The documents technically don't have to be classified for the espionage act to be violated. Not that I think a charge is really on the table unless they were, but if Trump's defense is going to be he auto-declassified everything and those documents are highly sensitive defense related, shit could get weird.
Yea that’s my point but some of these foaming are the mouth leftards can’t control their pitchforks. Well espionage act is either someone can easily steal those physical copies or he would give it to other powers right ? But mishandling or classified materials can slide into espionage which is why Clinton was in hot water for a minute. A unsecured email server and unmonitored email address can easily be hacked into. But since she was not seen as negligence and more of mistakes and bad management it didn’t stick. Trump navigates in stupid messy ways, that’s how he even talks so it’s hard to pin something hard on him. We will see how it turns out but the pitchforks and touchdown victory dancing his happening by the NPC’s and some media… they don’t mind having egg on their face at this point
 
So how soon will the narrative be Nuclear classified documents, who cares?
We are already in the stage of people not caring. King Trump declared everything he ever takes home and then keeps indefinitely without permission and then lies about having and oh yeah never actually stamps declassified, declassified. Perfectly fine and none of the fbi's goddamn business.
 
So how soon will the narrative be Nuclear classified documents, who cares?

If Trump was found to have this type of material, there is a chance he could argue because the atomic energy act was passed by Congress, any language that potentially neuters his classification/declassification authority is an issue with the separation of powers and Congressional overstep. It's been established that declassification flows threw the executive and it isn't a jury of department heads that can overrule the President's decision. You know Trump would go down this path as he's a bull in a china shop. There would also be questions regarding if any of that would even apply if, for instance, Trump had documents regarding other nations' nuclear secrets. I think the takeaway is people need to pay attention to who they elect. People's ethics are supposed to matter but we're more interested in pro wrestling, reality TV drama, and electing the best actors. I don't think truly moral characters are electable.
 
Yea that’s my point but some of these foaming are the mouth leftards can’t control their pitchforks. Well espionage act is either someone can easily steal those physical copies or he would give it to other powers right ? But mishandling or classified materials can slide into espionage which is why Clinton was in hot water for a minute. A unsecured email server and unmonitored email address can easily be hacked into. But since she was not seen as negligence and more of mistakes and bad management it didn’t stick. Trump navigates in stupid messy ways, that’s how he even talks so it’s hard to pin something hard on him. We will see how it turns out but the pitchforks and touchdown victory dancing his happening by the NPC’s and some media… they don’t mind having egg on their face at this point
To me, most of the thread related turmoil is the result of people crying that Trump's house was searched at all. It seems very clear at this point the fbi had plenty of reason to believe a bunch of documents marked classified were in fact classified, and that Trump's lawyer lying about returning them was concerning. Beyond that, we know nothing and we'll see what happens, but wtf? We're getting everything from Hunter's laptop to auto-declassification defense. Is that really where we want to be, so cool with ex-Presidents toting defense documents around like souvenirs that we'll start calling to defund the fbi? That's assuming they were really that highly classified at some point, given their markings.
 
You cant say dont be a hack and then insinuate the fbi hasnt gotten to the bottom of hunters business dealings and meetings with his father lmao. They just raided trumps house and took things but you think they cant read emails, check locations and get banking info? Also how long has it been? Come on man...

Off topic. Of the "posters on the other side" i like you. You seem nice, and smart. Enough of that though, back to pissing you off.
I appreciate you too. I'm not saying they haven't had enough time. The smoking gun evidence was posted on 4chan. Is that better than a source vetted by actual journalists? It's possible that between the damaging stuff they found on Hunter they fabricated messages to implicate Joe too. How can you be sure of what was on that laptop?
 
@SBJJ and @deadon. Two guys who gave their Sherdog lives for a cause they believed in.
SBJJ had a 15 year account. What a jackass.
Who's the next poster that's going to ram their car into a barrier and shoot it out with the Sherdog Mod Police?
The comeback kid and Bobby geese had long time accounts too. I guess it should be a wakeup call if you find yourself perpetually on yellows.
 
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