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Law Trumps home raided

Strychnine said:
Do you really think that any search warrant for a former President Of the U.S. isn't going to be gone over with a fine-toothed comb six-ways-to-Sunday before it's given the go-ahead?

Really?

This isn't some raid on a suspected drug dealer, this is the former POTUS.

All he has to do is show it and settle all doubt.
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I think all of our federal law enforcement agencies are clearly tilted politically (this isn’t news) and again that is how you’d deal with it. Trump aside, you can’t want people to deal with a problem how you would as some kind of a “gotcha”. Life doesn’t work like that.
 
TheBlondBomber said:
How do you know Trump didnt declassify the documents? I could mark any document “classified” and it doesnt mean it actually is. And if it was classified, why wait two years?
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How do you know? You're just grasping at excuses. Why don't you wait for the facts?
 
Rational Poster said:
I never said that the President can't declassify what he wants. I also never said the National Archive only holds classified documents. You are flailing and straw manning.


He obviously didn't declassify the documents because these records exist in the National Archive inventory as classified. There is no record that they have been declassified.
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1. They could have been declassified without notifying the national archives.

2. You don’t know whether the documents have been declassified because you don’t know what documents they are searching for. Unless you have insight the rest of us don't. Tell me, what ate the FBI is searching for that exist in the National Archives as classified.
 
idrankyourbeer said:
some more headlines regarding cheeto benito's legal affairs that will be flying under the radar after the fbi "raided" his house...

firstly, the super rich guy who never misses an opportunity to gloat about how wealthy he is, is now asking his supporters to give him more of their hard earned money to help cover his legal expenses for his frivolous lawsuit against CNN.

make up your mind don. do you want to grift these people to get that new airplane to add to your fleet, save the wall, sue the pants off of cnn, or give some random person a once in a lifetime opportunity to fly out and sit near you and have their picture taken near you at one of your next conventions? you're all over the place here and i'm still trying to figure out what grift i'm supposed to be taken for right now.



and also.

Trump real estate appraiser hands over thousands of documents to N.Y. AG in civil probe

A commercial real estate firm held in contempt of court for failing to hand over records on its appraisals of several Trump Organization properties to New York’s attorney general has turned over nearly 36,000 documents, court filings show.

New York Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron had found Cushman & Wakefield in contempt last month for not producing documents in state Attorney General Letitia James’ civil probe into the Trump Organization’s business practices and ordered the firm to pay a $10,000-a-day fine until it complied.

In a letter to the judge late Friday, James’ office said it has now “received Cushman’s production, which amounts to about 35,867 documents since entry of this court’s contempt order.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/08/tru...nds-of-documents-to-ny-ag-in-civil-probe.html
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So many investigations it's hard to keep track. Not a good week for The Dotard. I expect coverage of Hunter's laptop to x4 this week.
 
Fugazy said:
I think all of our federal law enforcement agencies are clearly tilted politically (this isn’t news) and again that is how you’d deal with it. Trump aside, you can’t want people to deal with a problem how you would as some kind of a “gotcha”. Life doesn’t work like that.
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It's not a "gotcha".

I'm retired military and had a Secret clearance. I've NEVER had a raid on my domicile because I left work at work. Something happened here that was legally (for now) actionable and law enforcement acted.

Either someone is above the law or they're not. In the U.S., no one is above the law. Or at least it's supposed to be that way.
 
Strychnine said:
Do you really think that any search warrant for a former President Of the U.S. isn't going to be gone over with a fine-toothed comb six-ways-to-Sunday before it's given the go-ahead?

Really?

This isn't some raid on a suspected drug dealer, this is the former POTUS.

All he has to do is show it and settle all doubt.
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i want to see the actual search warrant. cheeto benito could release it any time to help make the case that this is nothing more than a "witch hunt" and political theater, where the FBI showing up at his door with a warrant signed by a federal judge can only be compared to watergate.

i'd say theres a better chance of him releasing his tax returns, health care plan, and evidence of election fraud to the public than the chance of of him releasing the warrant. which is still next to nothing.
 
Deorum said:
It's been six years of non-stop investigations and nothing burgers. This will either galvanize Trump's campaign and build on the momentum he was already regaining or it'll clear the way for DeSantis and completely eschew the damage that would come with a nasty primary if he decided to challenge for the nomination. He wouldn't though, so taking DJT out also eschews the stain by association of anything negative in a potential second Trump term if he were to actually accept an impotent VP role.

It does nothing at all for the Dems aside from temporarily allowing a group emotionally invested men to squawk at another group of emotionally invested men into this man. It's all wildly bizarre and deranged behavior. You know, no judgment or anything but I'm glad to have never taken part and I think I'll continue to leave them to it.
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6 years of nothingburgers? <puh-lease75>
 
Jballer said:
Imagine it being the National Archives that take Trump down. It would be like Al Capone being taken down by the IRS x10.
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librarians would then be the most feared deep state agents within the entire swamp. you return those books back on time sonny boy or your career is finished and there will be a special spot for you in prison.
 
TheBlondBomber said:
1. They could have been declassified without notifying the national archives.

2. You don’t know whether the documents have been declassified because you don’t know what documents they are searching for. Unless you have insight the rest of us don't. Tell me, what ate the FBI is searching for that exist in the National Archives as classified.
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Declassified in the President's mind only or not, the documents are part of the National Archives inventory.

All of the President's correspondence during his term is property of the American people. He doesn't get to take souvenirs just because he wants to.

Period.
 
Strychnine said:
It's not a "gotcha".

I'm retired military and had a Secret clearance. I've NEVER had a raid on my domicile because I left work at work. Something happened here that was legally (for now) actionable and law enforcement acted.

Either someone is above the law or they're not. In the U.S., no one is above the law. Or at least it's supposed to be that way.
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That’s great.

But you know it’s not that way.
 
Strychnine said:
It's not a "gotcha".

I'm retired military and had a Secret clearance. I've NEVER had a raid on my domicile because I left work at work. Something happened here that was legally (for now) actionable and law enforcement acted.

Either someone is above the law or they're not. In the U.S., no one is. Or at least it's supposed to be that way.
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You can repeat this until you're blue in the face but the bottom line is they will not tolerate their Orange Daddy being held accountable, especially since all their fantasies of imprisoning their enemies have failed.

The most honest statement he ever made was that he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and he wouldn't lose any supporters. They would make excuses for him, concoct wild conspiracies, then finish it up with, "what about the Clinton Kill list!!!"
 
Strychnine said:
Oh, you don't have to tell me...
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So, what are you even saying?

I don’t ever recall you having this energy when it came to “democrats”.

I don’t keep track of the shit here but still.

And the quotes are for a reason.
 
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