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[maximus__]

Those aren't even his worst tweets. In this one he justifies the insurrection

Pure insanity, coming from the sitting president.

An op ed from the current VP and more than likely future president if Biden doesn't make 4 years.
https://lasentinel.net/a-wounded-nation-why-we-cant-give-up-in-the-fight-for-justice.html

Will you condemn both sides? Harris and other democrats have called for more violence than the tweet you show. You can't call out one side.

"I was proud to stand with protestors marching outside the White House in Washington, D.C."
So protesting in DC is ok provided it's your side?


A protester poses for photos next to a burning police vehicle in Los Angeles, Saturday, May 30, 2020, during a demonstration over the death of George Floyd. a black man who was killed in police custody in Minneapolis on May 25. (AP Photo/Ringo H.W. Chiu)

Here is the fact check:
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...-4-democrats-twisted-make-it-look-they-endor/

It's ok though because they meant peaceful protest.

Your tweet you referenced is not even as bad as the statements made in the fact checks above and they were defended as being ok due to previous statements. The call to "fight like hell' can be pulled from multiple political speeches on both sides and the president in the same sentence effectively called for people to "peacefully and patriotically protest". The above was already happening as he was still speaking.

By the media's definition Jan 6 was a peaceful protest, I don't agree with that, but if you support any of the violence that happened during the the BLM riots you are a hypocrite. If you condemn Trump and not the democratic politicians fact checked above you are also a hypocrite.

If the violence at BLM had been shut down straight away none of this would have happened. You should be going after the local government in all the states that allowed wide scale violence and looting, not a guy who posted mean tweets and classics like "kovfefe".

 

[Loiosh]

"I was proud to stand with protestors marching outside the White House in Washington, D.C."
So protesting in DC is ok provided it's your side?

Protesting isn't OK if you force your way through barricades and blast guards with chemical agents.

People say the BLM protests were mostly peaceful because they were. Out of the more than seven thousand protests, a handful boiled into full fledge riots and surprise surprise, those are the pictures that are always posted with the caption "mostly peaceful."

A man was killed in public while he and bystanders pleaded for his life. OF COURSE there were riots, but did anyone on the left actually encourage them, or were they encouraging peaceful protests?

 

[idrankyourbeer]

Facebook suspends former U.S. president Donald Trump's accounts for 2 years

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech...ds-trump-two-years-capitol-attack/7545534002/

“Given the gravity of the circumstances that led to Mr. Trump’s suspension, we believe his actions constituted a severe violation of our rules which merit the highest penalty available under the new enforcement protocols,” Clegg said.

Evidently, Trump's return to Facebook in 2023 will not be automatic: the company added today that in two years, the company will revisit Trump's suspension and assess potential risks. Nick Clegg's statement went on to say, "When the suspension is eventually lifted, there will be a strict set of rapidly escalating sanctions that will be triggered if Mr. Trump commits further violations in future, up to and including permanent removal of his pages and accounts."

 

[Jar of Flies]

King Trump and his subjects embarrassed again.

 

[maximus__]

Protesting isn't OK if you force your way through barricades and blast guards with chemical agents.

People say the BLM protests were mostly peaceful because they were. Out of the more than seven thousand protests, a handful boiled into full fledge riots and surprise surprise, those are the pictures that are always posted with the caption "mostly peaceful."

A man was killed in public while he and bystanders pleaded for his life. OF COURSE there were riots, but did anyone on the left actually encourage them, or were they encouraging peaceful protests?

We agree on that completely.

The BLM riots in the US were not mostly peaceful. There were peaceful protests undertaken by some that evolved into riots.
If you call Jan 6 a riot and insurrection for a single event and a small minority undertaking violent riotous behaviour then you can't make the claim that what happened with BLM was peaceful in anyway. It's hypocritical. Now I don't think there weren't peaceful protests, but the fact of the matter is more violence was done in the name of BLM and against black people than by by the Police in 2020.

The very words used to condemn Trump for inciting Jan 6 and resulting in his impeachment are no worse than used by Democratic politicians. Trump didn't say storm the capitol, assault Police and raid Nancy Pelosi's office, but because that happened and he supported a protest all the blame is placed on him.

By the same way of thinking that means that the posts I linked in post #341 can be held responsible for any violence or looting undertaken by those protesters.
That means the current VP ,who actually authored the article with a picture of a burning car, supported those riots. If Trump wrote an article with a burning car and a fist raised they would be calling for criminal charges against him.

I think Jan 6 and BLM riots are equally as bad as each other, I just hate the hypocrisy to call out one and not the other.

I support the statement Black Lives Matter, but the organisation and politicians using it for political gains I do not support.
I am black and hate to see how stupid people have become and actually believe all the crap being spouted and refuse to actually see it's both sides.

 

[Loiosh]

We agree on that completely.

The BLM riots in the US were not mostly peaceful. There were peaceful protests undertaken by some that evolved into riots.
If you call Jan 6 a riot and insurrection for a single event and a small minority undertaking violent riotous behaviour then you can't make the claim that what happened with BLM was peaceful in anyway. It's hypocritical. Now I don't think there weren't peaceful protests, but the fact of the matter is more violence was done in the name of BLM and against black people than by by the Police in 2020.

The very words used to condemn Trump for inciting Jan 6 and resulting in his impeachment are no worse than used by Democratic politicians. Trump didn't say storm the capitol, assault Police and raid Nancy Pelosi's office, but because that happened and he supported a protest all the blame is placed on him.

By the same way of thinking that means that the posts I linked in post #341 can be held responsible for any violence or looting undertaken by those protesters.
That means the current VP ,who actually authored the article with a picture of a burning car, supported those riots. If Trump wrote an article with a burning car and a fist raised they would be calling for criminal charges against him.

I think Jan 6 and BLM riots are equally as bad as each other, I just hate the hypocrisy to call out one and not the other.

I support the statement Black Lives Matter, but the organisation and politicians using it for political gains I do not support.
I am black and hate to see how stupid people have become and actually believe all the crap being spouted and refuse to actually see it's both sides.

I already made my problem with your line of thinking perfectly clear:

There were several thousand BLM protests and a small percentage of them evolved into riots. Thus, the entirely accurate description "mostly peaceful". More than 93% of BLM activity was completely free of violence and destruction.​

I don't see any hypocrisy. I never condoned any of the violence or looting. I also don't exaggerate what happened on the sixth, I think it was mostly a peaceful protest but it was revved up by a core of agitators and went further than it ever would have because of them. I think there were a lot of moderately serious crimes and a few very serious ones, and just like with the BLM riots, I think the people who committed them should be prosecuted.

 

[maximus__]

I already made my problem with your line of thinking perfectly clear:

There were several thousand BLM protests and a small percentage of them evolved into riots. Thus, the entirely accurate description "mostly peaceful". More than 93% of BLM activity was completely free of violence and destruction.​

I don't see any hypocrisy. I never condoned any of the violence or looting. I also don't exaggerate what happened on the sixth, I think it was mostly a peaceful protest but it was revved up by a core of agitators and went further than it ever would have because of them. I think there were a lot of moderately serious crimes and a few very serious ones, and just like with the BLM riots, I think the people who committed them should be prosecuted.

It seems we have some common ground at least in terms of Jan 6, but I still disagree with saying that 7% is a small percentage. My understanding is that statistic is taken from worldwide data and the violence primarily occurred in particular states in America.

My issue also isn't with the protesters themselves, more the politicians that I feel encouraged the violence by calling for it, attending rallies and bailing out offenders that had been arrested. If Trump had bailed out or pardoned the Jan 6 violent people my argument would be completely different. Those actions would have shown support for the violence that occurred. I haven't seen any of that directly so far.

You definitely have some good counter points though. I just wish that the violence at BLM hadn't become the main focus and I feel it needs to be called out. Same with the media's treatment of the violence at BLM protests vs suddenly caring about Jan 6. I feel the message was completely lost and that the organisation is just another non profit that using their money to pay a select few and ignores what they are actually meant to be doing for pweople.

 

[blaseblah]

An op ed from the current VP and more than likely future president if Biden doesn't make 4 years.
https://lasentinel.net/a-wounded-nation-why-we-cant-give-up-in-the-fight-for-justice.html

Will you condemn both sides? Harris and other democrats have called for more violence than the tweet you show. You can't call out one side.

"I was proud to stand with protestors marching outside the White House in Washington, D.C."
So protesting in DC is ok provided it's your side?


A protester poses for photos next to a burning police vehicle in Los Angeles, Saturday, May 30, 2020, during a demonstration over the death of George Floyd. a black man who was killed in police custody in Minneapolis on May 25. (AP Photo/Ringo H.W. Chiu)

Here is the fact check:
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...-4-democrats-twisted-make-it-look-they-endor/

It's ok though because they meant peaceful protest.

Your tweet you referenced is not even as bad as the statements made in the fact checks above and they were defended as being ok due to previous statements. The call to "fight like hell' can be pulled from multiple political speeches on both sides and the president in the same sentence effectively called for people to "peacefully and patriotically protest". The above was already happening as he was still speaking.

By the media's definition Jan 6 was a peaceful protest, I don't agree with that, but if you support any of the violence that happened during the the BLM riots you are a hypocrite. If you condemn Trump and not the democratic politicians fact checked above you are also a hypocrite.

If the violence at BLM had been shut down straight away none of this would have happened. You should be going after the local government in all the states that allowed wide scale violence and looting, not a guy who posted mean tweets and classics like "kovfefe".

You have to be an absolute moron to equate Kamala's article about social justice and attending a protest to Trump cheering on his supporters invading the capitol and justifying their actions. The protest Kamala attended didn't invade the capitol seeking to overturn democracy.

 

[58miles]

King Trump and his subjects embarrassed again.

If Trumps supporters were actually capable of embarrassment they would never have pledged their undying allegiance to a narcissistic con man like Trump in the first place.

 

[maximus__]

You have to be an absolute moron to equate Kamala's article about social justice and attending a protest to Trump cheering on his supporters invading the capitol and justifying their actions. The protest Kamala attended didn't invade the capitol seeking to overturn democracy.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bi...hat-put-up-bail-for-alleged-violent-criminals

Her support of these protests and a tweet on actually resulted in violent offenders being released.

Here is the fact check: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/harris-protesters-bail/

Yes she did tweet her support for the Minnesota Freedom Fund but it's ok because she didn't donate her own money.

1.She tweeted support for protesters and violent rioters
2.Those rioters committed offences.

That means she should be permanently banned from Twitter and held personally responsible for their actions as per the Trump rules.

As an ex prosecutor she had a more thorough understanding than most on what might occur. She has an intimate knowledge of the legal system and why someone may have been required to pay bail to be released.

Now I don't actually believe anyone should be held responsible for others actions without a direct call to violence, but I feel the point is still valid.
The article above justifies the protesters actions, Harris's support of the Minnesota freedom Fund shows support for the violent rioters. It's much worse than just tweeting.

 

[James Bomb]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bi...hat-put-up-bail-for-alleged-violent-criminals

Her support of these protests and a tweet on actually resulted in violent offenders being released.

Here is the fact check: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/harris-protesters-bail/

Yes she did tweet her support for the Minnesota Freedom Fund but it's ok because she didn't donate her own money.

1.She tweeted support for protesters and violent rioters
2.Those rioters committed offences.

That means she should be permanently banned from Twitter and held personally responsible for their actions as per the Trump rules.

As an ex prosecutor she had a more thorough understanding than most on what might occur. She has an intimate knowledge of the legal system and why someone may have been required to pay bail to be released.

Now I don't actually believe anyone should be held responsible for others actions without a direct call to violence, but I feel the point is still valid.
The article above justifies the protesters actions, Harris's support of the Minnesota freedom Fund shows support for the violent rioters. It's much worse than just tweeting.

I think your strategy of quoting fact checks and then disagreeing with their conclusions isn’t quite as solid as you think it is. Harris, being a former prosecutor, probably understands this too.

“In sum, while Harris indeed expressed public support for MFF following Floyd’s death, it was false to claim she donated money to the organization, or that it helped protesters “get out of jail and do more damage,” like Cotton alleged. Rather, no evidence existed to show the handful of people who received direct bail assistance for arrests related to the demonstrations committed more crimes after their initial detainment. For those reasons, we rate this claim “Mostly false.”​

 

[maximus__]

I think your strategy of quoting fact checks and then disagreeing with their conclusions isn’t quite as solid as you think it is. Harris, being a former prosecutor, probably understands this too.

“In sum, while Harris indeed expressed public support for MFF following Floyd’s death, it was false to claim she donated money to the organization, or that it helped protesters “get out of jail and do more damage,” like Cotton alleged. Rather, no evidence existed to show the handful of people who received direct bail assistance for arrests related to the demonstrations committed more crimes after their initial detainment. For those reasons, we rate this claim “Mostly false.”​

I know the above article is Fox news but it covers off that base, that's why I included it. I am going and fact checking my views prior to posting them and including the fact check when I feel it might be contentious.

They claim no evidence exists of further crimes I found an article in 30 secs proving that appears to be false. Amy Klobuchar another democrat ex prosecutor gets a name drop for one of the violent offenders bailed. I disagree with the fact check personally, but I guess it's my way of showing some form of research and not just posting blind quotes.

A quote from the Minnesota Freedom Fund Fox article:
Greg Lewin, the interim executive director of MFF, told FOX 9 that it does not matter to him what a person is charged with when he bails them out of jail -- just that he is doing his part to battle a system he sees as wrong.

I take issue with the above sstatment but see the below direct quote.
"I often don’t even look at a charge when I bail someone out," he told FOX 9. "I will see it after I pay the bill because it is not the point. The point is the system we are fighting."

That is the organisation that a former prosecutor tweeted out in support of. How is it any different to the absolute mauling through the press when Trump did stupid things?
My argument is they are all the same and should be called out equally.

 

[Loiosh]

That is the organisation that a former prosecutor tweeted out in support of. How is it any different to the absolute mauling through the press when Trump did stupid things?

Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Bail is one of the most blatant examples of inequity in the justice system based on wealth. The MFF exists to level the playing field.

Kamala was loud and proud about supporting this organization because they're about equality.

 

[maximus__]

Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Bail is one of the most blatant examples of inequity in the justice system based on wealth. The MFF exists to level the playing field.

Kamala was loud and proud about supporting this organization because they're about equality.

The MFF appears to only seem to care about the offender without taking into account why they might require bail and the feeling of the victims involved. These are violent offenders and not minor bails. This isn't just some person on bail for some weed or shop theft these are people accused of murder, manslaughter and other violent offences with actual victims. People are innocent until proven guilty, but in terms of these offences something needs to be done to prevent instant reoffending. High cash bail amounts is one option within the current system.

They aren't about equality or equity. They are about taking out a system they disagree with without taking any ownership for the possible issues they may cause.
No issues with them paying the bail if they become held accountable for those peoples actions post bail.

I just see these type of actions by politicians as just as bad as each other, but I guess we disagree.

 

[HARRISON_3]

Lol @ a grown man getting kicked off Facebook

 

[Joe]

None of that is a breach of their social media policies. The statement referenced infers motives behind tweets that are not actually there. They are not breaches of their policy and should not have resulted in a ban.

They used a concerted effort to close down Parler initially. They closed it down for what was actually being done on Facebook and twitter. Jan 6 was organised on facebook primarily but that was never shut down and maligned in the media. Parler has gone on record that they assisted the FBI investigating Jan 6 and they have terms of service prohibiting calls to violence. The media never reported any of that. Why would you want to create echo chambers anyway? People disagreeing with you is good. It might change your opinion on some things.

Jan 6 is no worse than the BLM riots that were allowed to go on for nearly an entire year. More Democratic politicians called for violent and riotous behaviour than any calls for violence by Trump both in his Jan 6 speech or via social media. You are blaming the wrong side for rioting becoming a regular part of American society.

Lol they can ban anyone they want. Just like a sherdog mod can ban you. You dont have a right to post on twitter or sherdog.

 

[58miles]

Lol @ a grown man getting kicked off Facebook

Not just any grown man but the POTUS and instead of being embarrassed that the man they voted for, that they worshipped like a living god, the man they claimed was gonna clean up the swamp, the man whose behavior they spent four years making up endless excuses for somehow managed to get himself thrown of social media and the MAGA crowd are outraged.

The truest words any politician has ever spoken was when Hillary Clinton called them deplorables.

 

[ocean size]

Man you really don't understand my point. It's truly something to witness

as a fairly neutral onlooker, you really don't appear to have much of a point.

 

[maximus__]

Lol they can ban anyone they want. Just like a sherdog mod can ban you. You dont have a right to post on twitter or sherdog.

If Twitter had said we chose to ban Trump because we just don't like him I would agree with you. They have instead made a statement on why and I don't agree with their reasoning. Trump is a dickhead, but banning the president from Twitter is insane. He basically used that to announce things instead of press conferences.

You know that the current social media policy in the US currently mirrors China for example?
https://www.loc.gov/law/help/social...hibits any online,on the reputation of others.

I live in Australia so it doesn't effect me at all. Recently we had a news ban. I loved it, but it would potentially kill an already dying media.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...-after-government-makes-media-code-amendments

 

[K1levelgrappler]

lmao