Economy Trump's April 2nd Tariffs

[Rob Battisti]

when will US pay for the wars against multiple countries in last hundred years killing millions upon millions?
when will US pay for their CIA operated regime change that brought chaos and destruction on third world countries in South America
the US comapnies decided to use slave labors in China so they can exploit cheap labor because they are greedy billionaires psychopaths why shouldn't they be prosecuted? maybe the Apple CEO, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezo etc should all be shot as well.
this is realpolitik, there's winner and loser but to act all high and mighty like US hasn't also been a dipshit for the last couple decades is insane
the we are the good guys and these are authoritarian regimes we must fight back rhetoric might work during the biden administration when you haven't been an asshole towards the entire world. now you have much less leverage than before

and let's not act like Trump is any less evil than Xi. just a couple day ago he orchestrated an insider trading/market manipulation on the US stock market to profit billions upon billions. these people are above the laws and they can do whatever they want without consequences. it's the average people in america and china that suffers. they had no choice non of us wanted any of this

Luigi?

 

[fica]

when billioneres start to testify you know you doing something right chin has no interest in being controlled by billioner foreigners or even russia does not want to be controled b them so billioneres thought they made them self rich with cheap china labor but they made china rich

 

[aerius]

Again: $30 trillion economy; closest rival weighs in below $20t, and has lost over $4 trillion in ground over the last half-decade alone. But it's services based, consumption driven, and we've got trade deficits! The fundamentals have evaporated. Or, not? It's also the largest agriculture exporter in the world, largest energy producer in the world, has domestic manufacturing output larger than the entire GDP of all but six countries and over 480,000 jobs in the sector are going unfilled right now that can't be filled by cheap unskilled labor. And global trade? As a percentage of GDP, the United States is the 191st most dependent country on international trade -- out of 193. How much more "isolationism" is necessary?

So like what the fuck are we even doing here? What is the plan? What is the end game? Double You Tee Eff!

Here's the interesting part - who makes all those fancy machines in your factories?
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Let's take a look at Detroit Diesel, they make diesel engines for all sorts of trucks. It's all German made Heller machines inside.


This is Tesla's factory, that's an OL 6100 CS press which they use for stamping out chassis parts. It's made in Italy.


Or how about Raytheon which makes radars & a bunch of other systems for the military? Those are automated placement machines made by Juki in Japan.


And of course all those chip fabs in Arizona are running Dutch ASML machines.

US manufacturing does not exist without countless billions worth of foreign machinery & tools which it either doesn't make or can't make. If you guys are dumb enough to get into a serious trade war where the supply of production machinery gets restricted or cut off, your manufacturing sector is straight up dead since your ability to repair the machines will be limited and you won't be able to replace them when they wear out.

 

[lowlife]

but why should anybody expect trump to honor any deals when he can just renege on anything he said. let's say China and US made a deal to do this and that. China obliged, then when it's done Tariffs back on China again. You think China is this stupid? they are done with the US market and looking for alternative plans. just look at their official statement, they already acknowledged their US market is gone for both import and export and they are done with this tiresome back and force. this effectively is an embargo.

You're arguing from an emotional place, which is understandable. I certainly think trumps erratic bs will hasten their move away from dependence on our consumer base, but that's not going to happen overnight. If there's enough pain and for long enough, I expect cooler heads to prevail. I'm not saying this is what will happen, it's my opinion. I could certainly be wrong, I know China is just as nationalist as we are and they operate on a much longer time frame than we do.

 

[AWilder]

i cleared out some space in the garage to start manufacturing iphones. i'm gonna get so fucking rich.

 

[AdamWarlock]

i cleared out some space in the garage to start manufacturing iphones. i'm gonna get so fucking rich.

im good at doing slave labor, but do i have to wear a suit and say thank you when I work for you?

 

[AWilder]

im good at doing slave labor, but do i have to wear a suit and say thank you when I work for you?

Only on paydays.

 

[AWilder]

You're arguing from an emotional place, which is understandable. I certainly think trumps erratic bs will hasten their move away from dependence on our consumer base, but that's not going to happen overnight. If there's enough pain and for long enough, I expect cooler heads to prevail. I'm not saying this is what will happen, it's my opinion. I could certainly be wrong, I know China is just as nationalist as we are and they operate on a much longer time frame than we do.

Trump dismantling all of our long term plans and strategies to go all in on this one stupid strategy.

 

[Hit-N-Run]

Countries and foreign companies are also responding to this stupid move. My friend works for an Australian firm, they just laid off all US employees (40+ people). Co-workers wife works for a Japanese company, she got the ax this morning.

The world hates the US now that’s thanks to Trump and the Republican Party.

Damage will last generations. You stupid cunts that voted for him are to blame for the downfall of the US.

 

[Phisher]

I know that the Fox people are just lying to back up Trump, but it cannot be overstated how fucking stupid it is to spread these misconceptions about China being totally reliant on the US market.

Everything that Trump has done is further empowering China as a world power and is making the US almost impossible to deal with.

 

[BEAST]

Countries and foreign companies are also responding to this stupid move. My friend works for an Australian firm, they just laid off all US employees (40+ people). Co-workers wife works for a Japanese company, she got the ax this morning.

The world hates the US now that’s thanks to Trump and the Republican Party.

Damage will last generations. You stupid cunts that voted for him are to blame for the downfall of the US.

I've mentioned this in an earlier comment.

Trump has fractured all the pillars that the USA had built with other nations. And why would they trust the USA in the future when the populace is capable of voting such a complete retard into office.

 

[AWilder]

I know that the Fox people are just lying to back up Trump, but it cannot be overstated how fucking stupid it is to spread these misconceptions about China being totally reliant on the US market.

Everything that Trump has done is further empowering China as a world power and is making the US almost impossible to deal with.

Xi going to have higher popularity polling than trump soon

 

[AWilder]

Lol a "glitch" in the system and they can't collect tariffs lol

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/customs-reports-glitch-in-system-used-by-freight-for-tariff-exemptions.html

 

[curryjunkie]

 

[Deorum]

Stable Genius, brah

The United States Trade Representative hasn't spoken to the President of the United States about a global reordering of trade, but yet he announced it on a tweet. If that isn't the most piss your pants, laugh out loud On Brand shit there ever was. It's fuckin' legendary, for all the wrong reasons.

Here's the interesting part - who makes all those fancy machines in your factories?
(videos are all time stamped)

Let's take a look at Detroit Diesel, they make diesel engines for all sorts of trucks. It's all German made Heller machines inside.


This is Tesla's factory, that's an OL 6100 CS press which they use for stamping out chassis parts. It's made in Italy.


Or how about Raytheon which makes radars & a bunch of other systems for the military? Those are automated placement machines made by Juki in Japan.


And of course all those chip fabs in Arizona are running Dutch ASML machines.

US manufacturing does not exist without countless billions worth of foreign machinery & tools which it either doesn't make or can't make. If you guys are dumb enough to get into a serious trade war where the supply of production machinery gets restricted or cut off, your manufacturing sector is straight up dead since your ability to repair the machines will be limited and you won't be able to replace them when they wear out.

This is perfectly complimentary. US manufacturing ain't dead, but after a trade war with the entire globe it would be.

 

[MeatheadMike]

I've mentioned this in an earlier comment.

Trump has fractured all the pillars that the USA had built with other nations. And why would they trust the USA in the future when the populace is capable of voting such a complete retard into office.

Congress would need and take away tariff powers from the president which they granted in the Trade Expansion act of 1962. I think that might be enough to regain trust of our trade partners.

Of course that would require them to actually do their job; and even still it wouldn't happen under this administration without a veto proof majority, since Donald wouldn't like it if they tried to take away his favorite toy.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Congress would need and take away tariff powers from the president which they granted in the Trade Expansion act of 1962. I think that might be enough to regain trust of our trade partners.

Of course that would require them to actually do their job; and even still it wouldn't happen under this administration without a veto proof majority, since Donald wouldn't like it if they tried to take away his favorite toy.

That would be good policy

 

[syct23]

I've mentioned this in an earlier comment.

Trump has fractured all the pillars that the USA had built with other nations. And why would they trust the USA in the future when the populace is capable of voting such a complete retard into office.

Because once the EU is at war with Russia, they will have no choice but to trust the U.S. again…

 

[Islam Imamate]

This is perfectly complimentary. US manufacturing ain't dead, but after a trade war with the entire globe it would be.

When people talk about how US manufacturing is dead I can't help but think of the defense industrial complex and how US arms remain the best and most sought after in the world which then gives us further leverage. For example the Swedish Gripen fighter jet is mostly an indigenously built plane but it uses a US jet engine so its subject to export controls by the US.

People like Vance want Americans building toasters and trinkets when we've already upgraded to jet fighters and chips.

 

[BEAST]

Because once the EU is at war with Russia, they will have no choice but to trust the U.S. again…

No they don't have to lol
Russia can't take over Ukraine with a small amount of proxy help from the EU.
Full EU forces would force Putin to push the button and at that point, nothing else is relevant.