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Elections Trump's approval rating

essie said:
No I agree with you that both sides think they are acting in common sense and me and you are both extremely partisan so we probably aren't the best judges of who is right. I would say right now most (albeit not an overwhelming majority) would agree with you whereas in 2021 most would have agreed with me.

I don't know what you mean about women's rights? The ones that republicans are campaigning to take away, like our right to bodily autonomy? Or? Sorry, just bugs me when conservatives frame the trans debate as being about being pro women or pro women sports when they go out of their way to hate both of those things. But I also don't know genuinely what you mean about the rights women have? I think trans people deserve the same rights as anyone else. If you are asking specifically about sports I believe there are over 500k women athletes in the NCAA and 10 or fewer are trans. Do I want to make legislation to eradicate them? No, I don't. For lower levels I think trans girls should be allowed to play with the gender they identity with.

Do I forsee a scenario where trans women competing in cisgendered women sports becomes a problem? Not really but if it did I would be happy to handle it now, but I'm going to start from a place of kindness and inclusion and until it becomes a problem I'll side with that. I'll side with reducing the rates of suicide for trans kids by not alienating them and making them feel like freaks. Now I want to say I recognize on this your opinion is the majority, not mine. It is very effective politics for the right to fear monger about trans people. America is generally not pro trans but I also don't think they would agree with some of the abject cruelty that the right spews at them, but maybe I am naive.
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*sigh*

You're fighting an impossible fight.
essie said:
As for flat earth I think maybe a better analogy is like denying climate change and vax science.
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No, because you actually can make an argument against those cases. You can't make one for the Earth being flat. Much like you can't for a man becoming a woman. Those aren't "controversial" issues, like climate change and vaccine dependency are.

essie said:
Don't think flat earth is that popular but maybe I'm wrong. I hope I didn't say anything in this answer that was inflammatory, I'm really not trying to be hostile or fight.
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It's not, but it is a niche subject that skews to the right(-wing nutjobs). If they ever have people in congress arguing for it, that will be their "men can become women" moment, and I will throw up my hands, become a some weird hermit who lives in a hollowed out tree in the forest, and lose all faith in humanity over it.
 
HereticBD said:
*sigh*

You're fighting an impossible fight.

No, because you actually can make an argument against those cases. You can't make one for the Earth being flat. Much like you can't for a man becoming a woman. Those aren't "controversial" issues, like climate change and vaccine dependency are.


It's not, but it is a niche subject that skews to the right(-wing nutjobs). If they ever have people in congress arguing for it, that will be their "men can become women" moment, and I will throw up my hands, become a some weird hermit who lives in a hollowed out tree in the forest, and lose all faith in humanity over it.
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Well I agree with you that fighting for trans rights in America is an impossible fight. It doesn't mean I'm going to let go of my views. That's something I've always kind of struggled with. Like I am sure there are times where you have felt like some of your views are deeply unpopular with large swaths of America but that doesn't mean they aren't important to you. At a certain point in America civil rights for Black people were as unpopular as trans rights are now, even more so, and people who fought for that were still morally right even if they were in the minority.

As for gender being as settled as the earth being flat, I would argue that people who study sex and gender, like actual scientists would disagree and say it is actually decidedly up for debate. I would say out of all these topics climate change seems the most settled.

Weirdly I don't agree that flat earth leans more right but maybe I am missing something? The right absolutely has more of a conspiratorial brain but seems like that one is kind of like a druggy/new age movement? Like the first person I remember hearing really argue for it was Eddie Bravo, but I guess he has become pretty right wing. I really do miss when conspiracy were harmless like that though.
 
Elon's approval rating has been dropping pretty rapidly. It's only a matter of time until it catches Trump too. Being in The White House together and having Musk be in complete control probably won't help the optics.
 
Zazen said:
Elon's approval rating has been dropping pretty rapidly. It's only a matter of time until it catches Trump too. Being in The White House together and having Musk be in complete control probably won't help the optics.
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I think it helps Trump to have Elon be the heat magnet. He comes off as significantly less vulgar compared to Elon's X rants. The negative media attention that was previously solely focused on Trump, is now split with Elon. When the two are being compared, the average person may appreciate that Trump doesn't go out there calling people "retards", tell critics to "fuck their own face" or throw questionable salutes when giving a speech.

I don't expect Elon to be willing to play that role forever though.
 
essie said:
I really do miss when conspiracy were harmless like that though.
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I will throw on an old episode of Unsolved Mysteries every now and again, and they will have their little silly conspiracy segment, and it makes me yearn for how much simpler things were.
 
essie said:
I don't know what you mean about women's rights? The ones that republicans are campaigning to take away, like our right to bodily autonomy? Or? Sorry, just bugs me when conservatives frame the trans debate as being about being pro women or pro women sports when they go out of their way to hate both of those things. But I also don't know genuinely what you mean about the rights women have?
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If you are referring to the abortion argument, the best argument has always been that the baby inside the mother is not "her body" its another person developing inside of her. She doesn't own that life and neither does the father, they are just custodians of that life with the responsibility to help that life develop further.

I'm pretty sure that both Republicans and Democrats watch women's gymnastics, volleyball and beach volleyball with complete and utter love.
 
ColemanwastheGOAT said:
The difference is Trump is delivering what he promised. Biden didn't.
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It's sad people think this clown is anything except just that, a clown. That he is popular only speaks to the stupidity of the populace.

And yes, Democrats are morons too.
 
Fox by the Sea said:
Donnie killing it.
Trump haters in shambles.
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And there goes the fucking FBI leaking information in order to protect and allow a transnational crime syndicate and designated foreign terrorist organization comprised of illegal aliens based out of Venezuela to continue operating with impunity in the United States.

 
GhostZ06 said:
pretty sure this isn't true. In fact, I'm pretty sure on quality sources not trump fangirl sources he's utterly terrible in the polls and Americans fucking hate him.
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Come on bruh....
 
Deorum said:


And there goes the fucking FBI leaking information in order to protect and allow a transnational crime syndicate and designated foreign terrorist organization comprised of illegal aliens based out of Venezuela to continue operating with impunity in the United States.

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Funny thing, i don't know if you know john shrek mcphee, who's an ex very well known delta, and he's a legit psycho but quit smart and amusing. He was on rogan before Trump got elected and it was the time that Donnie was threatening to send the special forces against the cartels and rogan was all giddy about it. and good old shrek said something like i dunno, if this happens immediately there will be leaks to the cartels from the us institutions and they'll know our guys are coming.

so yeah, i'm sure the leaks are real.
 
Substance Abuse said:
You've been focused on trannies, gay dudes and orange dick for over half a decade now. They have had that stove heated and bothered for a while. Don't let any of us stop you. Get that lotion ready while you stare at the polls, lol.
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He's right. It's really odd how often the left brings up Trumps cock. For some reason, you like to imagine him dominating people sexually and often imagine him in weird gay sex scenarios with other world leaders, its really odd.
 
Seano said:
He's right. It's really odd how often the left brings up Trumps cock. For some reason, you like to imagine him dominating people sexually and often imagine him in weird gay sex scenarios with other world leaders, its really odd.
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Their accusations are admissions.
 
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