International Trump/Vance or Zelensky - Who look the worst off in terms of public image by that Oval Office meeting?

[Seano]

Not a good attempt there. No one believes finding something funny is a breakdown. Going into victim mode because someone had an opinion on what you write on a discussion forum may be though. It sounds like you should follow your own advice.

We've wasted enough of this forums space with your sad attempt to grandstand. I'm moving on.

 

[terrapin]

I like you, but don't be an idiot. Mentioning our ocean is a remark about us being invaded in the future.

No, you are being an absolute fool and an idiot yourself and everyone seems to be able to see it quite clearly.

He mentioned the ocean because we enjoy isolation unlike him who's dealing with Russia right on its borders. You know Putin the guy that murders and kills and assassinates his political opponents. You know that guy that Trump seems more comfortable around than our own best friends and allies.

So what he's saying is that you can't let someone like Putin, a madman, a murderer and an assassin, have free reign because eventually those things will be felt here economically socially via our own allies.... He's saying you just can't simply understand how it feels because of your isolation and he's absolutely right about that. Plus, Trump doesn't care or feel anything because he's an absolute reptile.

For you to pretend it's some kind of veiled threat about an invasion from Russia is first of all disingenuous and propaganda but also idiotic in the extreme.

This is why Trump and Vance are unqualified to be the president. They're not even mature enough to interpret an actual world leaders perspective without getting emotional and estrogen-filled.

 

[KoreanZawmbie]

You don't think it's embarrassing to Trump for some little shit to shame a foreign leader who's his guest like that? Trump should have shut that shit down whether he agreed with it or not. That was not that dude's place.

Somebody had to tell the clown what is up. He’s got the audacity to criticize the US for not sending money and support. Fck that ass clown

 

[Mr Holmes]

No, you are being an absolute fool and an idiot yourself and everyone seems to be able to see it quite clearly.

He mentioned the ocean because we enjoy isolation unlike him who's dealing with Russia right on its borders. You know Putin the guy that murders and kills and assassinates his political opponents. You know that guy that Trump seems more comfortable around than our own best friends and allies.

So what he's saying is that you can't let someone like Putin, a madman, a murderer and an assassin, have free reign because eventually those things will be felt here economically socially via our own allies.... He's saying you just can't simply understand how it feels because of your isolation and he's absolutely right about that. Plus, Trump doesn't care or feel anything because he's an absolute reptile.

For you to pretend it's some kind of veiled threat about an invasion from Russia is first of all disingenuous and propaganda but also idiotic in the extreme.

This is why Trump and Vance are unqualified to be the president. They're not even mature enough to interpret an actual world leaders perspective without getting emotional and estrogen-filled.

So, to you, mentioning our geographical military advantage was about economic hardships. And you think it propaganda to believe he mentioned because he was talking about an invasion.. Is that what Racheal Maddow and that tic-tok Sissy kid are saying too? Good job on sounding like a retard.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Somebody had to tell the clown what is up. He’s got the audacity to criticize the US for not sending money and support. Fck that ass clown

I think he's been more grateful than critical unless you're a snowflake who can't take the slightest bit of criticism.

 

[terrapin]

So, to you, mentioning our geographical military advantage was about economic hardships. And you think it propaganda to believe he mentioned because he was talking about an invasion.. Is that what Racheal Maddow and that tic-tok Sissy kid are saying too? Good job on sounding like a retard.

Let's say that he did mention it as potential threat from military trouble with Russia.

So what? Why would that be such a line to cross? And why would you insist on something like that separate from all of the other possible takes?

My guess is estrogen filled emotionalism as an excuse to do what you were already doing anyway.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

So, to you, mentioning our geographical military advantage was about economic hardships. And you think it propaganda to believe he mentioned because he was talking about an invasion.. Is that what Racheal Maddow and that tic-tok Sissy kid are saying too? Good job on sounding like a retard.

He definitely meant he thought the US might get attacked by Russia someday imo but I'm curious as to what you find offensive about that.

 

[Mr Holmes]

Let's say that he did mention it as potential threat from military trouble with Russia.

So what? Why would that be such a line to cross? And why would you insist on something like that separate from all of the other possible takes?

My guess is estrogen filled emotionalism as an excuse to do what you were already doing anyway.

Trying to worry Americans they're are next is a pretty dumb thing to do. Rachel Maddow viewers probably wouldn't understand.

 

[Whippy McGee]

As people get informed, see the whole video, and realize that Zelensky not only shot down any Mineral deal just prior to the Oval Office meeting, but then called the Vice President of the United States a "bitch" in the Oval Office in front of the press, I think the views will shift and most rational people will shit on Zelensky the most.

I for one am good with the US to quit funding the senseless deaths that are going on there by the 100's of thousands.

Who has that meme of all the world leaders that have lost their power after supporting Zelensky?

 

[Whippy McGee]

Sherdog dupe thanks to the interface.

 

[terrapin]

Trying to worry Americans they're are next is a pretty dumb thing to do. Rachel Maddow viewers probably wouldn't understand.

So even your batshit crazy estrogen filled opinion just comes down to "He's bad because he's trying to worry Americans, that there's a bloodthirsty murderous dictator on the loose?"

And you think that's a necessary argument that excludes all other takes and concerns?

lol.

 

[Mr Holmes]

He definitely meant he thought the US might get attacked by Russia

I'm glad you can agree with my interpretation of what he meant.

imo but I'm curious as to what you find offensive about that.

I wouldn't say I'm offended, I just think its a lame attempt to scare us into doing what he wants. If anything the war has taught us, its Russia is a paper tiger.

 

[terrapin]

I think he's been more grateful than critical unless you're a snowflake who can't take the slightest bit of criticism.

The main thing here is that if Trump was a mature adult and didn't have another child and spineless loser as vice president they would have overlooked that slight coming from zielinski in the best interest of America and the Ukraine.

The thing is it's not even clear that trump gives a s*** about zielinski and it's more likely that he's more on the side of russia anyway.

Trumps idea of peace is just give the bullies what they want and then we have peace

I'ts so simple.

 

[Mr Holmes]

So even your batshit crazy estrogen filled opinion just comes down to "He's bad because he's trying to worry Americans, that there's a bloodthirsty murderous dictator on the loose?"

And you think that's a necessary argument that excludes all other takes and concerns?

lol.

There's no need for all the hostility and no need to gaslight. Have a good weekend.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

I'm glad you can agree with my interpretation of what he meant.


I wouldn't say I'm offended, I just think its a lame attempt to scare us into doing what he wants. If anything the war has taught us, its Russia is a paper tiger.

Can you appreciate that they might not appear a paper tiger from his perspective though?

 

[Mr Holmes]

Can you appreciate that they might not appear a paper tiger from his perspective though?

Sure, but I'm not interested in hearing it. He might have better luck selling it to the EU.

 

[terrapin]

There's no need for all the hostility and no need to gaslight. Have a good weekend.

The stakes are pretty high here man and ridiculous propaganda that you can't even defend is harmful

Don't follow Trump and his loser mentality that seems to have no possible way of measuring the gravity of situations against his emotionalism and ego.

If there was ever a time to get your head on straight and choose the side that isn't hell bent on sowing chaos hatred and division this would be the time.

 

[AmonTobin]

Zelenskyy: "Good afternoon, Mr. President".

Trump, 30 seconds later:

"YOU DON"T HAVE ANY CARDS. YOU'RE GAMBLING WITH WORLD WAR THREE."

Vance: "SAY THANK YOU!"
Trump: "PUTIN HAD TO GO THROUGH A LOT."

 

[Islam Imamate]

Probably.

I see many names missing who have been posting in these threads. My name isn't in there.

The truth is, all the names who voted Trump are the same people who'd vote against Trump no matter what the topic was and I don't see a shocking surprise anywhere on either list.

Ah yes noted leftists @KnightTemplar and @PRESIDENT TRUMP voting against Trump as usual

 

[Seano]

Ah yes noted leftists @KnightTemplar and @PRESIDENT TRUMP voting against Trump as usual

So 2 out of 150 or so votes? You got me.